[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
It’s not just Egypt that sucks…
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Yeah well, if genital mutilation is the issue, there are far more nations we need to worry about.
There seem to be perfectly civilized nations where the majority of boys have their foreskin removed, imagine that!
In the cases of voluntarily removing female ‘foreskin’, I would agree.
American porn stars do it all the time.
But some cases remove or partially remove the clitoris for the purpose of reducing female libido and pleasure. That’s just wrong, from a human rights standpoint.
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
In the cases of voluntarily removing female ‘foreskin’, I would agree.
American porn stars do it all the time.
But some cases remove or partially remove the clitoris for the purpose of reducing female libido and pleasure. That’s just wrong, from a human rights standpoint.[/quote]
There is a human right to sexual pleasure, or at least the right to have the equipment to enjoy sex?
In related news, do you know how many nerve endings there are in the human foreskin?
[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]jre67t wrote:
Plus mulsims live there too.[/quote]
Oh yeah, i forgot all muslims are terrorists, i am not one myself but, most of my friends and family are. You are obviously prejudice and narrow minded. Now GTFO, you don’t deserve to post in a thread that has Egypt in it’s title.
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I am sure he knows that all muslim are not terrorist.
I have been there and never ever I would want to live in a country of the muslim world.
never ever[/quote]
What out you off?
What annoys me really is, lack of bacon, the price of alcohol and lack of strip clubs.
But meh, to be honest the religion of the country doesn’t really affect my day to day life.
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This is the kind of humor I love here…not just funny…but responding to another person’s post! Fantastic!
Can’t you just command a woman to take off her clothes at any time seeing as they are property and what not?[/quote]
That’s disgusting.
Of course you can’t if someone ELSE owns her.[/quote]
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
It’s not just Egypt that sucks…
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Yeah well, if genital mutilation is the issue, there are far more nations we need to worry about.
There seem to be perfectly civilized nations where the majority of boys have their foreskin removed, imagine that![/quote]
Female circumcision involves holding a little girl down and cutting off her entire clitoris and often much of the labia with a fucking razor blade and in a mud hut. Circumcistion involves a fucking surgeon or a qualified Mohel with sterilised surgical instruments removing some loose skin. A clitoris is a dick. Female circumcicision is like having your entire fucking dick cut off with a dirty razor blade. Get it orion? Get the difference?
Wow, File:Intersex individual with type IIIb circumcision.jpg - Wikipedia . I think thats the most extreme version but holy shit that is crazy.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
…a qualified Mohel with sterilised surgical instruments removing some loose skin…[/quote]
Like this: City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies - The New York Times ?
You’re right, nothing more benign than an old man cutting up a baby’s dick, then sucking on it, giving him a fatal case of herpes.
In the grand scheme of things, female circumcision is a bigger issue. However, in either case it is genital mutilation, it’s barbaric, and it should be treated as such.
Since we are collecting reasons why Egypt sucks, especially for women, let’s not forget the ‘virginity checks’ during the recent uprisings…
Imagine if this happened in the USA, they would all be fucking millionaires in a quick class action.
Or being attacked on International Women’s Day…
I honestly never knew they were so backward.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]jre67t wrote:
Plus mulsims live there too.[/quote]
Oh yeah, i forgot all muslims are terrorists, i am not one myself but, most of my friends and family are. You are obviously prejudice and narrow minded. Now GTFO, you don’t deserve to post in a thread that has Egypt in it’s title.
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I am sure he knows that all muslim are not terrorist.
I have been there and never ever I would want to live in a country of the muslim world.
never ever[/quote]
What out you off?
What annoys me really is, lack of bacon, the price of alcohol and lack of strip clubs.
But meh, to be honest the religion of the country doesn’t really affect my day to day life.
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What put me off from ever living in a Muslim country (although I suppose I would still live there for certain reasons)?
Seeing my cousin’s head collapsed in after someone put a round at point-blank range because he was a Coptic who had converted several Muslims in the area.
Having four other members of my familia get torn up by a car bomb when walking through a market place to go to Divine Liturgy.
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]yusef wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
I’ll just leave this little gym here…
“According to the World Health Organization in 2008, an estimated 91.1% of Egypt’s girls and women have suffered genital mutilation.[86]”
Ya Eygpt is totally awesome.[/quote]
Very reputable source I’m sure. Wikipedia said so[/quote]
Last time I checked WHO was a pretty reputable source.
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This is seriously unbelievable. Holy crap. Small men treat women like this, IMO.[/quote]
You do realise that they don’t actually believe that women are the same creatures as themselves?
[quote]bcingu wrote:
^^^ Homosexuals, too. That’s what happens when your morals are firmly entrenched in the seventh century.[/quote]
7th Century has nothing to do with it, Catholics morals were established before the 7th Century. It has to do with false theology, woman is not considered to be made from the same thing as man. She isn’t the same thing at all, that is why they are not treated the same.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
You do realise that they don’t actually believe that women are the same creatures as themselves?[/quote]
Well at least they got that much right.
[quote]bcingu wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
…a qualified Mohel with sterilised surgical instruments removing some loose skin…[/quote]
Like this: City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies - The New York Times ?
You’re right, nothing more benign than an old man cutting up a baby’s dick, then sucking on it, giving him a fatal case of herpes.
In the grand scheme of things, female circumcision is a bigger issue. However, in either case it is genital mutilation, it’s barbaric, and it should be treated as such.[/quote]
Moral equivalency question: What should progressives and liberals be more concerned about?
A) A handful of orthodox Jew nuts who suck blood from circumcised dicks because it’s in accordance with ancient tradition?
B) Several hundred million+ Muslims who cut their daughter’s sex organs to mince then sell them to whichever old man has the greater number of goats to offer?
When I was in Alexandria, I saw a few women following their husbands around in that beekeeper outfit, but I also saw a bunch of women walking around in the mall wearing slutty clothing and lots of bling bling.
Just saying I saw plenty of women around, and they weren’t on a leash or anything. lol
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]bcingu wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
…a qualified Mohel with sterilised surgical instruments removing some loose skin…[/quote]
Like this: City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies - The New York Times ?
You’re right, nothing more benign than an old man cutting up a baby’s dick, then sucking on it, giving him a fatal case of herpes.
In the grand scheme of things, female circumcision is a bigger issue. However, in either case it is genital mutilation, it’s barbaric, and it should be treated as such.[/quote]
Moral equivalency question: What should progressives and liberals be more concerned about?
A) A handful of orthodox Jew nuts who suck blood from circumcised dicks because it’s in accordance with ancient tradition?
B) Several hundred million+ Muslims who cut their daughter’s sex organs to mince then sell them to whichever old man has the greater number of goats to offer?[/quote]
Read my post again, because it directly answers that question.
I also have no interest in turning this into a gratuitous “liberals vs. conservatives” debate. I think that nonsense has polluted enough threads. If your views of the world are facile enough to fit into a tidy little category like that, then you are probably neither very smart nor interesting.
These are human rights issues that EVERYONE should be concerned about. And I absolutely refute moral relativism, btw. I think it is a plague upon society, and it is has significantly alienated me from contemporary liberalism.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]bcingu wrote:
^^^ Homosexuals, too. That’s what happens when your morals are firmly entrenched in the seventh century.[/quote]
7th Century has nothing to do with it, Catholics morals were established before the 7th Century. It has to do with false theology, woman is not considered to be made from the same thing as man. She isn’t the same thing at all, that is why they are not treated the same.[/quote]
Well for one thing, “false theology” is entirely redundant (but that’s another thread entirely). Christianity is backwards as hell, but unlike Islam, it at least underwent reform. Still, the Catholic church is the last place I would look to for moral guidance.
In addition, women’s treatment in Muslim/Islamic states (two considerably different things) are a complex issue. While it definitely has a lot to do with pernicious religious bullshit, there are other factors to consider, (oil-based economies, etc).
[quote]bcingu wrote:
Still, the Catholic church is the last place I would look to for moral guidance.
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Well, then let’s just go redo the Nuremberg Trials. After all, our Natural Law was used.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]bcingu wrote:
Still, the Catholic church is the last place I would look to for moral guidance.
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Well, then let’s just go redo the Nuremberg Trials. After all, our Natural Law was used. [/quote]
Even if that was true, it was only applied to the leaders of a defeated Germany with no intention to apply the same rules to the Allies during the war or ever after it.
It was, in the words of Chief Justice Harlan, Jacksons high-grade lynch party.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]bcingu wrote:
Still, the Catholic church is the last place I would look to for moral guidance.
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Well, then let’s just go redo the Nuremberg Trials. After all, our Natural Law was used. [/quote]
Even if that was true, it was only applied to the leaders of a defeated Germany with no intention to apply the same rules to the Allies during the war or ever after it.
It was, in the words of Chief Justice Harlan, Jacksons high-grade lynch party.
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That’s another issue, I’m a Patriot, but justice should be served no matter who it is.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]bcingu wrote:
Still, the Catholic church is the last place I would look to for moral guidance.
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Well, then let’s just go redo the Nuremberg Trials. After all, our Natural Law was used. [/quote]
Even if that was true, it was only applied to the leaders of a defeated Germany with no intention to apply the same rules to the Allies during the war or ever after it.
It was, in the words of Chief Justice Harlan, Jacksons high-grade lynch party.
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That’s another issue, I’m a Patriot, but justice should be served no matter who it is.[/quote]
Well, I am no patriot and natural law means dick without courts that follow strict procedures and the rule of law.
Those trials resembled a Volksgerichtshof were “das gesunde Volksempfinden” (roughly, the healthy moral instincts of the people, as interpreted by the judge of course) overuled not only laws but also procedures to protect the accused from judicial overreach.
I am afraid that Catholic natural law is practically worthless when implemented by a state unless strict heathen Roman rules of law, like nullum crimen sine lege or nulla poena sine lege are followed.
