[quote]forbes wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]forbes wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
You never answered my question. How many lives have been saved with embryonic stem cells?
The federal dollars were stopped. OMG big deal!! With private dollars the research would continue because that same type of vision led to Bam bam being elected as president and his NPP. If there are so many lives being saved through ESC you think in the technologies we have today, the facts would be kept quiet?!? Sorry ac, even at 6’7" that is a stretch even I will NOT make.
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I don’t give a shit how many lives it’s saved at this point (or even if it EVER develops into a viable technology that ends up saving lives or not). THAT’S NOT THE POINT. The POINT is that a CHRISTIAN president used his PERSONAL religious beliefs to affect public policy. I have a MAJOR FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THAT. You are honing in on the most MINOR point of what I wrote. Which is typical of the kind of idiotic, tired old arguments I have come to expect from you guys.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! LOL[/quote]
Absolute blasphemy.
You have the right to believe what you want, but you have gone too far with this picture.
May God have mercy on you, though you don’t believe in him.[/quote]
Do you believe I should die for my blasphemy? Who are YOU to judge? What’s TOO FAR?
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO REPRESS MY FREEDOM TO POST WHAT I WANT?
If “God” REALLY had a problem with it, then where are the fucking lighting bolts? Oh right, there AREN’T any…
Aren’t YOU the one who believed that it was a good idea to kill children in the name of religion? I think I remember that thread quite clearly. Yes, you are DEFINITELY the baby killer.
Care to fucking justify why it’s OK to KILL CHILDREN, but it’s NOT ok to post a funny picture?
Killing children = OK, god said to do it.
Posting a picture of jesus fucking himself = BLASPHEMY! You’ve gone too far!
Brilliant Logic, you fucking sick piece of shit.
Here’s some more blasphemy - STILL waiting for the lightning bolt…[/quote]
And see, here we go again with taking things out of context. In that thread someone asked why God would order the blood of an entire people, children included. My honest and still steadfast response was that I really don’t know. All I did was offer a potential reason as to why. I in no way shape or form condone the killing of children, and for the last time God would NOT ask anyone to as divine revelation has ceased.
Did God Order the Killing of Babies?
by Dave Miller, Ph.D.
Skeptics and atheists have been critical of the Bibleâ??s portrayal of God ordering the death of entire populationsâ??including women and children. For example, God instructed Saul through the prophet Samuel to â??go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkeyâ?? (1 Samuel 15:3-4, emp. added). Other examples include the period of the Israelite conquest of Canaan in which God instructed the people to exterminate the Canaanite populations that occupied Palestine at the time. However, if one cares to examine the circumstances and assess the rationale, the Bible consistently exonerates itself by offering legitimate clarification and explanation to satisfy the honest searcher of truth.
The Hebrew term herem found, for instance, in Joshua 6:17, refers to the total dedication or giving over of the enemy to God as a sacrifice involving the extermination of the populace. It is alleged that the God of the Bible is as barbaric and cruel as any of the pagan gods. But this assessment is simply not true.
If the critic would take the time to study the Bible and make an honest evaluation of the principles of Godâ??s justice, wrath, and love, he would see the perfect and harmonious interplay between them. Godâ??s vengeance is not like the impulsive, irrational, emotional outbursts of pagan deities or human beings. He is infinite in all His attributes and thus perfect in justice, love, and anger. Just as Godâ??s ultimate and final condemnation of sinners to eternal punishment will be just and appropriate, so the temporal judgment of wicked people in the Old Testament was ethical and fair. We human beings do not have an accurate handle on the gravity of sin and the deplorable nature of evil and wickedness. Human sentimentality is hardly a qualified measuring stick for divine truth and spiritual reality.
How incredibly ironic that the atheist, the agnostic, the skeptic, and the liberal all attempt to stand in judgment upon the ethical behavior of God when, if one embraces their position, there is no such thing as an absolute, objective, authoritative standard by which to pronounce anything right or wrong. As the French existentialist philosopher, Sartre, admitted: â??Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist… Nor…are we provided with any values or commands that could legitimize our behaviorâ?? (1961, p. 485). The atheist and agnostic have absolutely no platform on which to stand to make moral or ethical distinctionsâ??except as the result of purely personal taste. The mere fact that they concede the existence of objective evil is an unwitting concession there is a God Who has established an absolute framework of moral judgments.
The facts of the matter are that the Canaanites, whom Godâ??s people were to destroy, were destroyed for their wickedness (Deuteronomy 9:4; 18:9-12; Leviticus 18:24-25,27-28). Canaanite culture and religion in the second millennium B.C. were polluted, corrupt, and perverted. No doubt the people were physically diseased from their illicit behavior. There simply was no viable solution to their condition except destruction. Their moral depravity was â??fullâ?? (Genesis 15:16). They had slumped to such an immoral, depraved state, with no hope of recovery, that their existence on this Earth had to be terminatedâ??just like in Noahâ??s day when God waited while Noah preached for years, but was unable to turn the worldâ??s population from its wickedness (Genesis 6:3,5-7; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 3:5-9). Including the children in the destruction of such populations actually spared them from a worse conditionâ??that of being reared to be as wicked as their parents and thus face eternal punishment. All persons who die in childhood, according to the Bible, are ushered to Paradise and will ultimately reside in Heaven. Children who have parents who are evil must naturally suffer innocently while on Earth (e.g., Numbers 14:33). [/quote]
This is the exact type of “religious thought” that gives rise to conflict in the name of God. Want to understand the mind of a Muslim terrorist? Read the above and consider it. Think they blow up buildings, planes and such because they feel like blowing shit up? Or do they consider themselves doing “God’s work”? I can’t believe people believe this.
Maybe my question should be why isn’t God smiting whole civilizations anymore? There certainly is plenty of evil and wickedness in the world.
