[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
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No, you are describing a psychopath.[/quote]
No, he is describing a sociopath with is a very special kind of psychopath.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
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No, you are describing a psychopath.[/quote]
No, he is describing a sociopath with is a very special kind of psychopath. [/quote]
Yeah, I clicked submit too soon and had to go back to edit. Oddly enough I was just discussing this with a friend of mine who is a psychiatrist and he recently went through the differences with me. Most people think it’s the sociopaths who are the cool and collected ones but it is the psychopaths you really need to be afraid off, he said, as they are the one that make you think the knife in your back is your own fault!
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
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No, you are describing a psychopath.[/quote]
No, he is describing a sociopath with is a very special kind of psychopath. [/quote]
Yeah, I clicked submit too soon and had to go back to edit. Oddly enough I was just discussing this with a friend of mine who is a psychiatrist and he recently went through the differences with me. Most people think it’s the sociopaths who are the cool and collected ones but it is the psychopaths you really need to be afraid off, he said, as they are the one that make you think the knife in your back is your own fault! [/quote]
If he is talking about cluster Bs that is probably true.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Found it. Only related since Orion mentioned women who had a good relationship with their fathers, and some of you are raising girls.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
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Okay, they finish ahead in life at the expense of others. Generally at least. Some, have been basically trained socially to treat everyone the same (think Dexter Morgan in the first season of Dexter). I only bring it up because if he has been evaluated and is in fact sociopathic (it is a spectrum of sorts I believe) then why would he even ask this question? He won’t be able to understand anyone’s responses because he wouldn’t have to ability to empathize on any significant level. And our attempts at changing his mind will be for naught (those of us who ARE trying to explain things).
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
displaying sociopathic behaviors every once in awhile is normal human behavior. The difference is them manifesting regularly and often. Its like the difference between a person who gets drunk, and an alcoholic.
I have been evaluated [/quote]
And?[/quote]
that’s privileged information between me and my psychologist (:
I think that everyone displays sociopathic behaviors every once in a while. [/quote]
displaying sociopathic behaviors every once in awhile is normal human behavior. The difference is them manifesting regularly and often. Its like the difference between a person who gets drunk, and an alcoholic.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
[/quote]
No, you are describing a psychopath.[/quote]
No, he is describing a sociopath with is a very special kind of psychopath. [/quote]
Yeah, I clicked submit too soon and had to go back to edit. Oddly enough I was just discussing this with a friend of mine who is a psychiatrist and he recently went through the differences with me. Most people think it’s the sociopaths who are the cool and collected ones but it is the psychopaths you really need to be afraid off, he said, as they are the one that make you think the knife in your back is your own fault! [/quote]
If he is talking about cluster Bs that is probably true.
Oh, the joys of a borderline crazy bitch.
Pro-tip: the sex is great and still not worth it.
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[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
[/quote]
No, you are describing a psychopath.[/quote]
No, he is describing a sociopath with is a very special kind of psychopath. [/quote]
Yeah, I clicked submit too soon and had to go back to edit. Oddly enough I was just discussing this with a friend of mine who is a psychiatrist and he recently went through the differences with me. Most people think it’s the sociopaths who are the cool and collected ones but it is the psychopaths you really need to be afraid off, he said, as they are the one that make you think the knife in your back is your own fault! [/quote]
If he is talking about cluster Bs that is probably true.
Oh, the joys of a borderline crazy bitch.
Pro-tip: the sex is great and still not worth it.
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Too bad I wasn’t given that advice 14 years ago
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Well, it does give you an endless supply of “I once knew a girl who actually DID…”
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
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Okay, they finish ahead in life at the expense of others. Generally at least. Some, have been basically trained socially to treat everyone the same (think Dexter Morgan in the first season of Dexter). I only bring it up because if he has been evaluated and is in fact sociopathic (it is a spectrum of sorts I believe) then why would he even ask this question? He won’t be able to understand anyone’s responses because he wouldn’t have to ability to empathize on any significant level. And our attempts at changing his mind will be for naught (those of us who ARE trying to explain things).[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.
For the average out of shape middle aged-ish Indian man settled in North America (no offence therajraj, going off that thread you created a while back with your progress pics. you probably look better now), its safer to label yourself as the alpha/leader or loner wolf, or if that doesn’t stick - simply go around peddling yourself as an antisocial achiever who’s a borderline sociopath. It probably avoids comparisons with the brown guy from the Big Bang Theory and helps you land a woman without going the “arranged marriage” route thats traditional there.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
[/quote]
Okay, they finish ahead in life at the expense of others. Generally at least. Some, have been basically trained socially to treat everyone the same (think Dexter Morgan in the first season of Dexter). I only bring it up because if he has been evaluated and is in fact sociopathic (it is a spectrum of sorts I believe) then why would he even ask this question? He won’t be able to understand anyone’s responses because he wouldn’t have to ability to empathize on any significant level. And our attempts at changing his mind will be for naught (those of us who ARE trying to explain things).[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.[/quote]
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
[/quote]
Okay, they finish ahead in life at the expense of others. Generally at least. Some, have been basically trained socially to treat everyone the same (think Dexter Morgan in the first season of Dexter). I only bring it up because if he has been evaluated and is in fact sociopathic (it is a spectrum of sorts I believe) then why would he even ask this question? He won’t be able to understand anyone’s responses because he wouldn’t have to ability to empathize on any significant level. And our attempts at changing his mind will be for naught (those of us who ARE trying to explain things).[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.[/quote]
I was wondering if you were reading that with a “WTF?” look on your face.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
OP, have you ever considered getting evaluated for sociopathy? This is a legitimate question, because the way you describe friendships, relationships, and how you pretty much settle on them based solely on their utility to you sounds very much like someone with at least mild sociopathy. You seem to have no empathy for anyone really.[/quote]
Sociopaths finish ahead in life. It routinely shows men in positions of power CEOs, Surgeons, captains of industry, etc, measure high in sociopathic traits.
Just sayin’
[/quote]
Okay, they finish ahead in life at the expense of others. Generally at least. Some, have been basically trained socially to treat everyone the same (think Dexter Morgan in the first season of Dexter). I only bring it up because if he has been evaluated and is in fact sociopathic (it is a spectrum of sorts I believe) then why would he even ask this question? He won’t be able to understand anyone’s responses because he wouldn’t have to ability to empathize on any significant level. And our attempts at changing his mind will be for naught (those of us who ARE trying to explain things).[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.[/quote]
I was wondering if you were reading that with a “WTF?” look on your face. [/quote]
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.[/quote]
I always thought of it as an advantageous adaptation to a highly dysfunctional environment.
Does that make any sense or am I totally off base?
Edit: For example, I know someone who was diagnosed with BPD and OCD (specifically, compulsive thoughts). As a child, she went to 8 schools in 9 years, dad wasn’t around, mom had 3 husbands, sent to live with gramma because mom was in rehab multiple times, etc.
Taken in that context, as a child her needs were only going to get met if she developed some behaviors that, as an adult, would be seen as highly dysfunctional.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m sorry, but this entire line of discussion is bullshit. Sociopathy and psychopathy are both clinically outdated terms for what is now called Antisocial Personality Disorder. It’s not an advantage; they are more likely to wind up in prison than a board room.[/quote]
I always thought of it as an advantageous adaptation to a highly dysfunctional environment.
Does that make any sense or am I totally off base?
Edit: For example, I know someone who was diagnosed with BPD and OCD (specifically, compulsive thoughts). As a child, she went to 8 schools in 9 years, dad wasn’t around, mom had 3 husbands, sent to live with gramma because mom was in rehab multiple times, etc.
Taken in that context, as a child her needs were only going to get met if she developed some behaviors that, as an adult, would be seen as highly dysfunctional.
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I think of them as maladaptive, but yes, they may have developed as coping strategies. Borderline in particular is often diagnosed in people (particularly women) who’ve grown up in complete chaos. That one, however, doesn’t strike me as advantageous - it’s just a self-perpetuation of the endless emotional disruption they’ve been raised with. It’s really heartbreaking, and it makes me sad to see the way they’re spoken of on these boards. ^^^
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s really heartbreaking, and it makes me sad to see the way they’re spoken of on these boards. ^^^
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In my observation, the ones speaking harshly of people with BPD are those who were in a relationship with one. They’ve been through the abuse, and the manipulation, and the gaslighting, and the inane arguements, and at some point decided they wanted off the emotional roller coaster.
Having been in a relationship like that, having compassion for someone with BPD is a bit like having compassion for a tornado because it’s simply the result of certain weather patterns…while ignoring the destruction of 30,000 homes and 200 dead.
Additionally, ime people with BPD do not recognize the behavior in themselves. There’s actually a term for it to distinguish it from mental illness that the sufferer does recognize but I can’t think of it right now. The person with BPD does not want compassion, they do not want understanding. From their perspective, they’re not the one with the problem, the other person is. It makes therapy incredibly frustrating. On more than one occasion my ex stormed out of the office after being told her behavior was less than ideal.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
That one, however, doesn’t strike me as advantageous - it’s just a self-perpetuation of the endless emotional disruption they’ve been raised with. It’s really heartbreaking, and it makes me sad to see the way they’re spoken of on these boards. ^^^
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Yeah well, of course they did not choose to be that way, but they are completely unstable, inmature, downright machiavellian emotional vampires nonetheless.
And God help the man who finds out after having children with them.
The family court divorce mill is bad enough for a man if the woman is sane.
Maybe the man should do a better job of due diligence before marriage and fathering children, instead of accepting crazy as a cost of getting great, wild, abundant sex. It isn’t like people with caravans of emotional baggage are able to hide it or suppress it if you hang around them long enough. And by long enough - I would guess within a very few weeks.
