Why Do Men Get Married These Days?

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[quote]comus3 wrote:
What if you get married and your wife is completely game and lady like and it’s all good. But she gets cancer and you spend all your money on her treatment. Is that a different risk and different judgment than if she divorced you?[/quote]

that depends…

in the case of my mother, she has begun participating in activities that foster an environment perfect for the growth of cancer. She is obese, drinks regularly, and has recently begun smoking cigarettes (out of fucking nowhere).

she has convinced herself that she has PTSD (ive actually seen a lot of women do this, it’s rather strange), and the cigarettes are a way for her to calm down.

so, instead of working out, eating right, and treating her body well, she has chosen to destroy it, and will put a huge dent in the family funds when she inevitably gets serious health issues.

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

yeah I saw that… pretty funny, and rather telling. It’s a good thing women aren’t vitriolic or vindictive…

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.
[/quote]

This is why dating around before you tie the knot is extremely important. Dating around not only helps you see with great clarity what your sexual desirability looks like, it also teaches you to recognize green and red flags.

if a chick is thin but food is a focus in her life as opposed to an accessory, chances are she’ll be fat within 10 years.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

One problem is his net worth is literally less than half of what was calculated when this started. This is solely on his shares of his company which have dropped more than 50% in the last 6 months mostly because of oil.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

How much do you think she deserves?[/quote]

Depends what her interest in the company is. Also how does she get her money? He can’t just sell half his shares without them decreasing in value. Does she get 50% of the shares? If so she could drastically decrease his value further if she wanted (although hers would too).

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

How much do you think she deserves?[/quote]

I have no idea what she deserves.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

How much do you think she deserves?[/quote]

Depends what her interest in the company is. Also how does she get her money? He can’t just sell half his shares without them decreasing in value. Does she get 50% of the shares? If so she could drastically decrease his value further if she wanted (although hers would too).[/quote]

Basically the options are

  • Slowly get money over time which could potentially be over 1bil but could be less (fair I think)
  • Get almost 1bil now which is arguably too much/little. This is basically a buyout with the advantage of getting a fixed amount now vs undetermined amount later.
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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

One problem is his net worth is literally less than half of what was calculated when this started. This is solely on his shares of his company which have dropped more than 50% in the last 6 months mostly because of oil.[/quote]

I didn’t see that in the article. Even if his net worth was cut in half to $6.75B we are still only talking about around 15%.

It sounds like her lawyers talked her into a appeal, which is why she rejected the offer. I think she’s an idiot, but that’s neither here nor there.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.
[/quote]

This is why dating around before you tie the knot is extremely important. Dating around not only helps you see with great clarity what your sexual desirability looks like, it also teaches you to recognize green and red flags.

if a chick is thin but food is a focus in her life as opposed to an accessory, chances are she’ll be fat within 10 years.[/quote]

well, food is not a focus in my mom’s life… it’s just that, whenever she eats, she eats something bad for her. she eats 3 meals a day and a few snacks… all of which are composed of high carb, high fat food options.

women have a way of changing both mentally and physically after the vows are exchanged… based on what ive seen, the change is more often completely physical… in the ‘throw some flour on it and try to find the wet spot’ kind-of way.

she knows the man can’t divorce her without losing at least half of his stuff (more if kids are involved), so why bother taking care of her appearance? ‘it’s too haaaaaaaard’… lol

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You’re a riot Walkway. I bet you’re just a joy at parties.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

Insane; however, it’s just the scale of the wealth that make it seem unreasonable. That’s not even 10% of the guys worth (not sure if net worth or what) per the article. [/quote]

How much do you think she deserves?[/quote]

I have no idea what she deserves. [/quote]

In the words of William Munny, “deserves” got nothing to do with it.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:
What if you get married and your wife is completely game and lady like and it’s all good. But she gets cancer and you spend all your money on her treatment. Is that a different risk and different judgment than if she divorced you?[/quote]

that depends…

in the case of my mother, she has begun participating in activities that foster an environment perfect for the growth of cancer. She is obese, drinks regularly, and has recently begun smoking cigarettes (out of fucking nowhere).

she has convinced herself that she has PTSD (ive actually seen a lot of women do this, it’s rather strange), and the cigarettes are a way for her to calm down.

so, instead of working out, eating right, and treating her body well, she has chosen to destroy it, and will put a huge dent in the family funds when she inevitably gets serious health issues.

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

yeah I saw that… pretty funny, and rather telling. It’s a good thing women aren’t vitriolic or vindictive…[/quote]

Are your parents together? It sounds like this whole thread originated from you having mommy issues and fear of a woman you might love one day turning out like her.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You’re a riot Walkway. I bet you’re just a joy at parties. [/quote]

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.
[/quote]

This is why dating around before you tie the knot is extremely important. Dating around not only helps you see with great clarity what your sexual desirability looks like, it also teaches you to recognize green and red flags.

if a chick is thin but food is a focus in her life as opposed to an accessory, chances are she’ll be fat within 10 years.[/quote]

well, food is not a focus in my mom’s life… it’s just that, whenever she eats, she eats something bad for her. she eats 3 meals a day and a few snacks… all of which are composed of high carb, high fat food options.

women have a way of changing both mentally and physically after the vows are exchanged… based on what ive seen, the change is more often completely physical… in the ‘throw some flour on it and try to find the wet spot’ kind-of way.

she knows the man can’t divorce her without losing at least half of his stuff (more if kids are involved), so why bother taking care of her appearance? ‘it’s too haaaaaaaard’… lol[/quote]
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you’re ignorant.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:
What if you get married and your wife is completely game and lady like and it’s all good. But she gets cancer and you spend all your money on her treatment. Is that a different risk and different judgment than if she divorced you?[/quote]

that depends…

in the case of my mother, she has begun participating in activities that foster an environment perfect for the growth of cancer. She is obese, drinks regularly, and has recently begun smoking cigarettes (out of fucking nowhere).

she has convinced herself that she has PTSD (ive actually seen a lot of women do this, it’s rather strange), and the cigarettes are a way for her to calm down.

so, instead of working out, eating right, and treating her body well, she has chosen to destroy it, and will put a huge dent in the family funds when she inevitably gets serious health issues.

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/07/angry-divorcee-refuses-74m-check-from-billionaire-oil-tycoon/[/quote]

yeah I saw that… pretty funny, and rather telling. It’s a good thing women aren’t vitriolic or vindictive…[/quote]

Are your parents together? It sounds like this whole thread originated from you having mommy issues and fear of a woman you might love one day turning out like her.[/quote]

not at all… don’t get me wrong, I do love my mom, she is a great mother and always has been. Yes my parents are still together, and I don’t think that will ever change.

i am definitely afraid that a woman i would be serious about could become like her… im also afraid that she could become like any of the other middle-aged obese women i know (quite a few).

throughout my life… my teachers have been primarily female, and sure enough, after the wedding and a couple kids, they have all ballooned to massive proportions, while the man looks just about exactly the same as he did the day they met…

the men look absolutely defeated. they get up, drive to work where they spend 8 hours of their day, then drive home to their fat wife and completely sexless marriage lol

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[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.
[/quote]

This is why dating around before you tie the knot is extremely important. Dating around not only helps you see with great clarity what your sexual desirability looks like, it also teaches you to recognize green and red flags.

if a chick is thin but food is a focus in her life as opposed to an accessory, chances are she’ll be fat within 10 years.[/quote]

well, food is not a focus in my mom’s life… it’s just that, whenever she eats, she eats something bad for her. she eats 3 meals a day and a few snacks… all of which are composed of high carb, high fat food options.

women have a way of changing both mentally and physically after the vows are exchanged… based on what ive seen, the change is more often completely physical… in the ‘throw some flour on it and try to find the wet spot’ kind-of way.

she knows the man can’t divorce her without losing at least half of his stuff (more if kids are involved), so why bother taking care of her appearance? ‘it’s too haaaaaaaard’… lol[/quote]
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you’re ignorant.[/quote]

solid argument

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

this is just another risk of getting married… you’re wife could turn into an obese slob who reeks of cigarettes, and has little consideration for her husband or family in general.
[/quote]

This is why dating around before you tie the knot is extremely important. Dating around not only helps you see with great clarity what your sexual desirability looks like, it also teaches you to recognize green and red flags.

if a chick is thin but food is a focus in her life as opposed to an accessory, chances are she’ll be fat within 10 years.[/quote]

well, food is not a focus in my mom’s life… it’s just that, whenever she eats, she eats something bad for her. she eats 3 meals a day and a few snacks… all of which are composed of high carb, high fat food options.

women have a way of changing both mentally and physically after the vows are exchanged… based on what ive seen, the change is more often completely physical… in the ‘throw some flour on it and try to find the wet spot’ kind-of way.

she knows the man can’t divorce her without losing at least half of his stuff (more if kids are involved), so why bother taking care of her appearance? ‘it’s too haaaaaaaard’… lol[/quote]
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you’re ignorant.[/quote]

solid argument [/quote]

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
i am definitely afraid that a woman i would be serious about could become like her… im also afraid that she could become like any of the other middle-aged obese women i know (quite a few).

throughout my life… my teachers have been primarily female, and sure enough, after the wedding and a couple kids, they have all ballooned to massive proportions, while the man looks just about exactly the same as he did the day they met…

the men look absolutely defeated. they get up, drive to work where they spend 8 hours of their day, then drive home to their fat wife and completely sexless marriage lol[/quote]
I still maintain that this is primarily a matter of your environment. This may be the norm where you are, but this is by no means the norm everywhere.

That’s not to say that I can’t find it easily if I look for it, but there are also many other people living lives where this isn’t the case.

There are a couple significant moves I’ve made in my life that changed my outlook for the better, simply because I was around better people. I spent a lot of time ruminating over things in my environment I didn’t like, trying to avoid emulating them, but it wasn’t until I just got out of there that things actually got better.

It could be a matter of just changing the people you associate with, or you may be better off with just getting yourself established in a new place.

People everywhere drink and party, but there’s a big difference between the people who work shitty jobs and party just to survive, and people who are ambitious about their careers and party with the same passion they put toward their work.

Go put yourself around some people who live lives that seem surreal and unrealistic to you right now, and keep doing that until their lives seem normal to you. At least that’s been my experience when I’ve made those changes.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:
What if you get married and your wife is completely game and lady like and it’s all good. But she gets cancer and you spend all your money on her treatment. Is that a different risk and different judgment than if she divorced you?[/quote]

Yes.[/quote]
Orion serious question. Do you have a best friend? I mean a guy that you trust with your life and will help you bury the body? Guy that is going to be sitting next to you in jail after a night bar hopping? [/quote]

yes

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
i am definitely afraid that a woman i would be serious about could become like her… im also afraid that she could become like any of the other middle-aged obese women i know (quite a few).

throughout my life… my teachers have been primarily female, and sure enough, after the wedding and a couple kids, they have all ballooned to massive proportions, while the man looks just about exactly the same as he did the day they met…

the men look absolutely defeated. they get up, drive to work where they spend 8 hours of their day, then drive home to their fat wife and completely sexless marriage lol[/quote]
I still maintain that this is primarily a matter of your environment. This may be the norm where you are, but this is by no means the norm everywhere.

That’s not to say that I can’t find it easily if I look for it, but there are also many other people living lives where this isn’t the case.

There are a couple significant moves I’ve made in my life that changed my outlook for the better, simply because I was around better people. I spent a lot of time ruminating over things in my environment I didn’t like, trying to avoid emulating them, but it wasn’t until I just got out of there that things actually got better.

It could be a matter of just changing the people you associate with, or you may be better off with just getting yourself established in a new place.

People everywhere drink and party, but there’s a big difference between the people who work shitty jobs and party just to survive, and people who are ambitious about their careers and party with the same passion they put toward their work.

Go put yourself around some people who live lives that seem surreal and unrealistic to you right now, and keep doing that until their lives seem normal to you. At least that’s been my experience when I’ve made those changes.[/quote]

His bias and perspective are borderline pathological, whatever the reason may be.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]comus3 wrote:
What if you get married and your wife is completely game and lady like and it’s all good. But she gets cancer and you spend all your money on her treatment. Is that a different risk and different judgment than if she divorced you?[/quote]

Yes.[/quote]
Orion serious question. Do you have a best friend? I mean a guy that you trust with your life and will help you bury the body? Guy that is going to be sitting next to you in jail after a night bar hopping? [/quote]

yes[/quote]
Cool, so imagine that times a 1000 if you find somebody you want to share your life with. Not talking about puppy dog I want to bone the chick type of relationship.