You don’t need deadlifts. Several pros have made great backs with deadlifts.
[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
You don’t need deadlifts. Several pros have made great backs with deadlifts.[/quote]
If the OP isn’t trying to be a pro, then yes…
i thought this was my thread at first.
after seeing a guy do a good morning with 600 pounds i thought it would be a better posterior chain exercise than the deadlift since it provided a great stretch. i do deadlifts though since it feels great doing them and i felt soreness in my back that i did not feel after nine sets of pulls.
and it is easier than balancing a bar on my neck. i dont think you need it, but it is very good addition to a back routine. i dont know what else is to be expected.
it sort of goes by the theory that finding ways to attatch heavy weight to the body is good
Typo, I meant without deadlifts.
The pros who have great backs are taking alot of juice dont forget.
If all you care about is pure looks and you can achieve that doing lat pull downs, rows etc and avoid the hard exercises like deadlifts then i think you are missing out on probably the best part of lifting weights and that is to lift more than your previous days and to test your strength.
I train for looks and to be big but its just as important to me to be able to lift big weights. It teaches you how you can do anything when you put your mind to it and how you can go through the pain of heavy lifts without giving in.
Without sounding too philisophical, lifting iron aint just about looking good its about proving to yourself you can take your body through hell and still come out fresh on the other side, take it to places the average joe wont take his.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
forlife wrote:
I did deadlifts for 5 years, but have resorted to other exercises the past year due to back/neck issues (caused in part by doing deadlifts for 5 years).
How did you injure your neck deadlifting?[/quote]
Neck injury during the excersice is fairly easy if you move your head while doing the lift.
Infact, I remember CT mentioning this to crewpierce in the Clinic a few months back when he posted his deadlift picture with his head tilted.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
I’m probably going to get my head bitten off for asking this but, as a bodybuilder, why do deadliifts for building up size?
I’ve heard it said so many times that deadlifts build up your body overall (e.g. legs/back/traps etc)…but why do an exercise that isn’t precise and doesn’t directly target a specific muscle group? I understand that compound movements and core strength is good for BBing, but there are other movements that do this and make more progress.
If you want to build legs, you do squats/leg press etc, if you want to hit traps, you do shrugs etc…so why only go half way with their development by doing deadlifts?
Don’t get me wrong, I have started doing them a few months ago again (just for the hell of it LOL), but I’m having dificulty seeing the superiority of them over more direct movements (e.g. pullups/shrugs/squats etc). When I stopped doing the deadlifts in the past - nothing bad happened…[/quote]
I don’t do them, and I think my back looks alright. Well I do stiff legged ones but those are for my hams and I don’t feel them in my back too much.
[quote]905Patrick wrote:
Add to the building list of good reason - they are fun.
Okay, not fun like sex but fun like having had sex with a new women - there’s an unreal sense of accomplishment that just screams “HELL YEAH!!!”[/quote]
I just set a new pr (430) today, and I shouted that out afterwards.
To the OP: If your back looks good from pullups…what would it look like if you deadlifted, AND did pullups? My back absolutely EXPLODED when I started doing this.
Why bench press for your chest when you could focus more directly on it with dumbell flies?
A lot of people swear by deadlifts, particularly for back development but also for hamstrings. There are plenty of examples of this, and also many examples of people that have built great backs without using deadlifts.
They’re worth a try if you can do them safely, because although they don’t target one specific muscle group they do a better job than any other back exercise of overloading several at once simply because you can use more weight on this exercise than any other.
There are people on this website and others that will tell you that you HAVE to deadlift NO MATTER WHAT! And that is just asinine. But they are definitely worth a try.
Because if you want to increase your biceps DO DEADLIFTS !
They will enable you to use more weight on other excercises.
The posterior chain (back of you) is hit nearly everywhere by the deadlift… for packing on muscle its unrivalled except by the squat/oly lifts.
Bodybuilders do deadlifts, you think they got huge doing LEG CURLS or LEG EXTENSIONS ???
MOST or NEARLY ALL, I think its fair to say, bodybuilders started off with the big bangers like the bench press, deadlift, squat, bent over row, and some others. As time went on and after building some initial base of muscle, they realized some exercises were not doing it for them anymore either because of injuries or because of structure. That is why you see a lot of pros not performing squats and deadlifts anymore.
I won’t dispute the fact that you can build a good physique without dl’s but you’ll build a better one with them. I always looked my best and was stronger overall when I was hitting the deads hard. Just don’t get caught up in pulling for max weight every back day. I’m dealing with a dl injury sustained in a raw meet back in May and that’s no way to make any progress.
they make your back look fucking retarded. you cant get that from shrugs.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
Why use soap when you shower?
Why pull your pants down before taking a dump?
There’s 2 guys in my gym that deadlift, ande I’m proud to be one of them.
The rest of the pussies just watch with their mouth open and give us a wide berth.
Real men deadlift…
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Really? Really? haha I guess if these statements make people feel better, then great. But in my experience the only reason people would act that way is because you look like a tool, not because you are doing something impressive or awesome. I bet that most of the people at your gym actually don’t give a crap about what you are doing, unless you’re dropping heavy weights, in which case some people might be annoyed…I honestly just don’t understand why people write this crap.
the biggest thing thats kinda been danced around here is doing deadlifts when you can put up another 100lbs for reps your back will be alot bigger
[quote]mthomps wrote:
How did you injure your neck deadlifting?
Neck injury during the excersice is fairly easy if you move your head while doing the lift.
Infact, I remember CT mentioning this to crewpierce in the Clinic a few months back when he posted his deadlift picture with his head tilted.[/quote]
Yeah, I know that too, but I didn’t want to assume anything. 
For all I know right now he caught a glimpse of a 18-year-old girl with erect nipples walking by and couldn’t resist sneaking a peek while straining 405 lbs. off the floor. My college roommate tried to do that while I tried to teach him squats at the university gym, needless to say I told him to stop or I’ll kick his ass before he gets the chance to injure himself.
[quote]Iron-Head10 wrote:
LOL im sitting here looking at ur display picture (forlife)…its pretty obvious you dont Deadlift.
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No offence but that’s a pretty stupid remark to make. Besides the fact that you cannot see his body very well with the shirt on, what makes you think deadlifts make you huge just by doing them? You can remain roughly the same size just by not eating enough to grow, but you’d still progress in weight on the bar - I’ve seen some slim woman lifting weights that many “BB” guys would faint at LOL. Granted, this is exceptional but it still proves the point that more muscle mass does not necessarily mean more strength.
It may just be me and my form, but when I do the deadlift, it seems that the main muscles getting hit are those around the hips (e.g. thighs, glutes, lower back etc) but nothing much for the upper body. When I lift the bar, my arms pretty much hang like “hooks” and there is little movement in my upper body apart from to statically stabilize the weight.
How can a muscle grow much if it’s only under a bit of tension (which is static)?
Take for example the shrugs. I hardly move my traps when I deadlift. I think your traps need a good range of motion and higher reps in order to grow. Same goes for the upper back - I simply lift the weight until my body is upright - I don’t (or can’t) bring the weight back with my arms so that it targets my upper back too.
Loads of people say that compound movements are all that you need - but my arms didn’t start growing more until I did direct work.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
Yeah, I know that too, but I didn’t want to assume anything. For all I know right now he caught a glimpse of a 18-year-old girl with erect nipples walking by and couldn’t resist sneaking a peek while straining 405 lbs. off the floor. [/quote]
lol
I think the back/neck issues came from a combination of occasionally poor form and lifting too heavy for my size. I tried to keep my spine straight and neck aligned but am sure I fell short more than a few times over the 5 years I did deadlifts. At this point, my chiroproacter doesn’t recommend them so I do alternate exercises. I’ve actually seen some of my best muscle growth in the past year that I’ve been doing different lifts.
Iron-Head10 wrote:
Here are my pics from October of last year. As I said, I’ve put on a good amount of muscle since these pics were taken. I’m not huge by any means, but I don’t think your comment was called for.