Why Do Americans Care So Much About Freedom

I highly doubt nasty older people became nasty as they got older. They were likely nasty since they were a kid.

A nice person seldom turns mean.

Having met God knows how many middled-aged and old people in my life at work and elsewhere, I only remember a relative few I would consider wise or who taught me something in particular. So this notion of older people not having to be well-mannered because they made their bones by default, simply by existing, or that they are inherently wiser than others is bogus.

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I can’t speak for many people (even though I do) but I was a nasty person turned nice with the ABILITY to turn nasty when the mood fits .. it’s like an amazing super power imo

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An attitude like this, likely brings on a condescending tone.
After all - they have lived your 30 years but you haven’t lived their 50 - 80 years.
Not saying you are not more educated/smarter, but less experienced.

Do agree with older seem to lose filter and tact.

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Or, young people these days are just more sensitive because they don’t have to spend as much time worrying about survival. My grandfather grew up during the Depression then took time off from college to volunteer to fight in WW2. He ended up not getting blown up over the skies of Germany, came back, went to graduate school, got married, had kids, had a career, opened a business after retiring… I’m sure some 30 year old who plays video games and watches comic book based movies would have found him ornery.

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I admire him just hearing about him.

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The thing is, it was an entire generation that did what needed to be done and didn’t complain about it.

Over summer break the city would hire college and HS students to work with the full time guys in the parks and recreation department. One day some of us, not me, pissed off an older employee and he called them a bunch of pussies followed by something to the effect of, ā€œwhen I was your age I had a rifle on my back while I climbed up a hill as the Japanese were killing my friends all around me.ā€ It became very quiet for a minute then the apologies started.

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I’ve heard this appeal to authority many, many times… or perhaps primarily from a few senior citizens within my family, thus my thoughts may be somewhat biased. My brother and I have been ā€œschooledā€ on sociopolitical issues by our grandma, despite said relative not being up to date on current events. I think the funniest thing she’s ever said was during a conversation with my brother.

ā€œHey ā€˜insert name here’ did your friends ā€œX,Y and Zā€ in the states vote for Biden or Trumpā€.
ā€œOne abstained and the others voted for Bidenā€
ā€œWHAT! HOW could they? If they vote for Biden America will fall to the North Koreansā€
then my brother proceeds to cop a little bit of a lecture. My brother didn’t even vote in the USA, we don’t have a citizenship/visa anymore and had he been there he would have abstained/voted independent anyway.

That being said apparently she has been stubborn and at times difficult to deal with for decades, so you may be correct in that it isn’t an old age thing.

I generally believe the neurodegeneration associated with ageing can be associated with a loss of inhibition. As to the ā€œlack of a filterā€ that old people have as @zecarlo states… I don’t think this is a bad thing. At times white lies/softening the truth can be necessary for self preservation in tense/dangerous situations, though as a neurodivergent individual I think we would be far better off if we simply told the truth/spoke our minds during day to day social interactions as opposed to spuriously fabricating our views and beliefs in effort to make someone else happy then proceeding to talk someone behind their back (as can be prevalent with dating, teaching, familial interactions etc). Whatever goes around, comes around; and it’s far more irritating to find out someone was lying through a third party as opposed to the initial conversation consisting of the truth i.e ā€œlets just be friendsā€ or ā€œI don’t agree with your political stance hereā€ etc.

The sheer frequency by which I hear FAMILY members talk trash about one another over the phone irks me. If the trash talk is deserved as the individual at hand is legitimately nasty/did something wrong, so be it. But typically this kind of ā€œgossipingā€ is usually just nasty and involves ā€œtrash talkingā€ an individual who has otherwise done absolutely nothing wrong. Such conduct serves to hurt others in the long run

The interaction between HS kids/my brother described above can easily be boiled down to blatant immaturity.

You’re a dietician right? Do you work with bodybuilders/athletes or individuals with health ailments who need to adhere to certain dietary criteria?

I find this field (nutrition/dietetics) fascinating despite knowing relatively little about it.

What do I have to eat to build up as much arterial plaque in as quick of a time as possible? I assume a breakfast lunch and dinner consisting of KFC, McDonalds and Hungry Jacks ought to do the trick (jokes). Though Australian KFC is the best, I rave about it and consume it once a month like clockwork.

What do you think of fad diets like the Esselstyn diet? I tried a plant based diet for a few months at one point in time, my total cholesterol/LDL-C dropped by like 10-15 percent; this is quite significant.

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I have a love/ hate relationship with KFC. I don’t eat it often, but really enjoy it when I do, but only until I have finished. Then I feel like a dirty whore.(not talking about after meal antics. :smiley:

I can email you answers rather than derail this thread.

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I don’t discuss politics with seniors but I often differ to them on various things that I think I know a lot about. It was about learning how to filter out the wrong and irrelevant stuff they say and extracting the stuff that can only derived through experience.

It’s not easy and can be infuriating at times but I’ve had a lot of practice over the years. But the benefits are great if you can apply the wisdom you manage to derive from them.

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Obviously I’m not talking about listening to some random old bum or someone almost senile.

You gotta pick the right people to talk to. Holy fuck, a 74 year old client who’s now a friend recently schooled me on IOT and shit that I didn’t even know about even though I’ve been going pretty deep into tech for the last 2 years and he has no background in any of this shit. Of course, he’s the exception, not the norm but I’m just throwing this out there as an extreme example.

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sounds good :slight_smile:

me too, albeit without the crude analogy. I’ll feel queasy, mildly nauseous after KFC. It’s just so unhealthy, I think like… two wings equates to almost a days worth recommended salt intake!

Lotta saturated fat, the chicken, burgers and chips are processed to high heaven. It’s arguably the worst out of all the fast food franchises (even worse than mcdonalds and hungry jacks)

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I really shouldn’t pick on an old dude who needs a lot of pharmaceuticals…but if you can’t figure some of this out for yourself I can’t help you. Your posts are such large pieces of paranoia and misinformation about stuff that you don’t understand. The leaps and mistakes you make are so numerous it makes it impossible to know where to begin.

I just wonder if you sit in Australia biting your nails when you read that a white woman married a Mexican man and say ā€œH factor is such an idiot doesn’t he know this wedding destroyed America?!ā€

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@Beyond_Beyond, you didn’t answer.

If you believe this to be the case why not explain WHY his beliefs are flawed in a civil manner? I don’t know what you guys are arguing about now (it’s always something). If you want to win someone over, it’s best to show them your side of the equation whilst acknowledging their opinion

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Sorry Bud, I did see it, but I’ve been very busy and it slipped my mind.
Yes, it seems immigrants tend to have more children than white families. It wasn’t always like that, but with education, birth control options, abortion it has gone down…Some of it is cultural, religious, too.

In no white first world country were any of the native population ever asked, not just America. No referendums, nothing. In poll’s I can remember it being overwhelmingly anti mass immigration. Major parties on all sides pay lip service to the voters then go on with high levels of immigration, through various methods both legal and illegal.

Hey Unreal, H is not going to explain, he avoids answering any questions by using facts to prove his point. Also facts presented to him mean nothing if they don’t agree with his world view. Its about beliefs. Notice how he will use an ad hominem argument, attacking my age, or some other trait or behavior rather than address the question in a debate?

For the record H you happen to also be insulting a large percentage of T Nation guys, who happen to be 50 or older, and those who choose to use PED’s for various reasons, whether its for health or otherwise

I’ve done this numerous times. If he can’t figure out especially why the quoted part is ludicrous to view as significant he’s beyond beyond helping. I don’t have unlimited time to fix all his issues and I’ve put lots of time into it in the past. Time for someone else to pickup the torch and try to teach him.

Spare me. You use ad hominem arguments constantly.

Hahahaha, and ha. Oh master please teach me the great wisdom of your wokeness and communism. I may come to worship Buck Fiden too.
Your opinions are still not backed up by facts. Dude I’m waiting.

You are not spared. I will happily exchange insults, but unlike you I will at least explain my position, and provide facts. You express an opinion, but rarely if ever explain your reasoning, let alone provide plausible facts.

Well let’s see as diversity has increased worldwide especially in developed countries in the last (pick a time frame) what’s followed? Larger life expectancy, greater access to education and health care, increased literacy rates, less war, increased democracy, I can go on for a long time. Meanwhile your dumbass average white supremacist might get their life saved by a doctor from India.

This doesn’t mean anything it’s word vomit. You’re shouting from the rooftop ā€œhey other countries failed therefore this one will fail. After all it’s also a country and I just said other countries failed.ā€ You’re desperate to make weak links to other places that mean nothing at all. You think America will fail? Cool people have said that since the country began. So far the whole lot of them are incorrect. But you aren’t alone in saying it. It’s just likely you’ll be dead and it will be untrue just like everyone before you saying it.

We’ve never had peace and harmony moron. But we have had more of it as diversity has increased. What you get wrong is you see that stuff still exists and you’re desperate (because you’re racist) to blame it on race. ā€œA black person stole something ha look it’s all broken!ā€ Ignoring the fact that other people steal and ignoring the benefits. You’re in such a hurry at your far right websites to read and post about the problems you insist happen in a country you’ve probably never visited if you’re being honest.

Ok. People across the country are having less kids. Some of them are white people. The only person I can blame is…minorities. My neighbors are white and they have one kid. Only reason they don’t have 5 like the good old days? We have some black people on the college football team. Oh don’t get me wrong they want to fuck and have 5 more but they just can’t. Got black people across town.

These are the type of purely awful arguments that are such a waste of time.

Oh please. Subjective and demonstrably untrue in numerous areas? If it’s such a shithole why is our population so high? Hell why do you live thousands of miles away and post on a US website about the US so much? If it’s so trivial and failed no one would care.

Bullshit. Don’t confuse not being a white supremacist for being anti-white. I haven’t said anything anti-white. Just because you piss your pants at every birth that isn’t white doesn’t mean everyone needs to do the same. And it’s certainly not anti-white.

I would hope not. I don’t either. Very easy to shoot down. But maybe the people who are on here always saying some mix of communist Marxist socialist (probably not realizing they aren’t all the exact same word) should actually push for freedom and let people do what they want?

Find that post for me. I’d love to read it. But you pulled it out of your ass. The difference is I don’t care more or less about the fate of a white American any more or less than anyone else in this country. Hope for the best for all of them. I care more about white people and have done more for them in this country than you ever will. You want their friends and family and fellow countrymen to be forced to leave them.

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