[quote]pushharder wrote:
You’re not worthy of any more of my time anyway given your disingenuous attitude. You blew it.[/quote]
OH LORDY LORDY HOW EVER SHALL HE SLEEP TONIGHT?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[/quote]The Levitical law that you are referring to is civil and ceremonial law and applies specifically and only to the Hebrews living at that time. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the entire book of Genesis nor modern Christianity.
Do not pluck things out of context and attempt to make analogies with them. That exhibits poor debating skills and lack of knowledge of the subject at hand - something encountered here all too often.[quote]
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There is ONLY overwhelming science about microevolution. There is none about the macro version. None.[quote]
You assume that there are no lessons to be learned from a story of death 4 billion years old. I think you’re very wrong about that…[/quote]
You’ve thought I was wrong about several things in the past that indeed you were the one in error.[/quote]
The reason I brought up Deuteronomy, or really the majority of the books in the old testament, is that they are almost always selectively analyzed by people who claim to be fundamentalist christians (not that you necessarily are). The major exception is Genesis which is maintained by christian fundamentalists in spite of the scientific proof (carbon dating, geologic evidence, analyzing the cosmos) that the earth is well over 4 billion years old. And don’t give me bullshit about this science not being accurate, it’s mathematical certainty. Ergo, I asked you why genesis HAD to be interpreted LITERALLY to maintain the christian faith. You ignored my question which pisses me off.
As evolution is a theory and not a law you are incorrect in saying that there is no science backing evolution. Actually the science fits evolution very well, but as you can imagine it would take a while for evolution to happen. Therefore it is ignorance for you to demand “testing” or “proof” when the process takes thousands of years. However, if you have heard of molecular biology you’re aware that scientists have examined human like fossils from neanderthals that are + 50,000 years old. The molecular data shows we are a different but very similar species, so unless the bible happens to mention something about them it would appear there’s your proof of speciation.
Lastly, you are seriously an immature schmuck if you think discussions are about proving people wrong, or if you think you’re always right. I always ask questions about why you or other people think the way they do, which should really be the heart of any discussion. Either answer my questions or leave me alone, I’ll do the same.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
P.S. Mike, speaking of batshit crazy fundamentalism I noticed you leaned heavily on your faith when you presented no real evidence or proof of macro evolution as I requested.[/quote]
The overriding theme of biology is evolution. As biology is a science, it is ridiculous to call it fundamentalist. Evolution is a growing and changing theory that is based on overwhelming evidence. If you had even done a cursory reading of biological principles you would know this.
Mike, don’t let him push you around (wink wink), whenever he gets upset he tells people to shoo.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I have an idea some Catholics gonna have some splainin to do when they stand before their Creator.
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Speaking from an European perspective, although I lived for a while in the use, I am shocked that an educated person in the 21st century in the Western world could utter such a statement.
I think such beliefs are a great insult to the Creator.
It is amazing to realize how in order to be considered “Christian” in some circles this actually means subscribing to some ridiculous and frankly idiotic beliefs.
Actually, the reasons are historical - as the (then) splinter religious groups gained strength on the American continent, they lost contact with the religious and scientific progress made in Europe during those crucial period in late Renaissance and early Enlightenment.
This to a more extreme case happened with the Boers in South Africa and their Calvinist teachings. I say “more extreme” because of the dramatically smaller community and almost non existent literacy there.
One may laugh now reading how barely a hundred years ago Boers considered parks, dancing, horse trams and locust control “a slight against God”, but this process actually occurred in the US in a very diluted form.
Now, I fail to see how anyone who is familiar with the political bickering and ridiculous compromises that happened during the codification of the Bible and the selection of the Gospels could actually take everything at face value.
Interestingly, I noticed reading these “Evolution vs. creationism” thing how some posters here are engaged in a desperate intellectual sophistry exercise in trying to turn back the clock of Western religious and scientific progress 350 years back.
Sadly, one could draw the same parallels with Wahhabism. Again, this is more of an extreme case. A splinter religious group which gained financial prominence and is now (successfully) turning back the clock.
This video is sort of relevant…