Why Are They So Big?

[quote]jahall wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The real question is, why the hell is the gym filled with so many fuckers who are FREE yet can’t find the motivation to get big?

Priorities. Most people do not want to get big in the first place. And on top of that most guys just want to be seen in the gym, or to tell people they go to the gym. That’s the main reason you see 5 guys around a bench at one time and all talking for 20 minutes.

And I’ll bet your priorities are completely different than the average gym goer. Yours is probably to try and get as big and strong as possible, or at least something along the lines of that.

The average gym goer is just probably trying to go to get back into shape or to look like that Abercrombie model, not to be jacked in the first place.[/quote]

You WIN at missing the point. If some guy who has no intentions of being any bigger than 150lbs is wondering how people get big in prison, they should first ask why they care if they have no desire to do the same.

People in prison get big just like people outside of prison get big…by wanting to and doing what it takes to make it happen.

The majority of the people wondering about this hopefully have the goal of doing the same, otherwise, why the fuck would they be asking the question?

[quote]Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?[/quote]

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

[quote]jahall wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The real question is, why the hell is the gym filled with so many fuckers who are FREE yet can’t find the motivation to get big?

Priorities. Most people do not want to get big in the first place. And on top of that most guys just want to be seen in the gym, or to tell people they go to the gym. That’s the main reason you see 5 guys around a bench at one time and all talking for 20 minutes.

And I’ll bet your priorities are completely different than the average gym goer. Yours is probably to try and get as big and strong as possible, or at least something along the lines of that.

The average gym goer is just probably trying to go to get back into shape or to look like that Abercrombie model, not to be jacked in the first place.[/quote]

Most people in life are driftwood.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

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Is that proven?..or just generally accepted as true?.

Serious question.

[quote]Skinless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

Is that proven?..or just generally accepted as true?.

Serious question.

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Sheldon had a theory on somatotypes that said something to the effect that mesomorphs were most likely to commit crime. It didnt hold up for that. Anthropometry, which Sheldon falls under, doesnt hold up as far as criminals determining criminals.As far the testosterone, sorry can’t answer that someone else might be able to though.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

[/quote]

yeah thats not a legitimate reason. at all.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

yeah thats not a legitimate reason. at all. [/quote]

That’s not a concern. As long as you can detect (not-so) subliminal bigotry in HH’s posts, he’s done his job.

[quote]Skinless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

Is that proven?..or just generally accepted as true?.

Serious question.

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Absolute horseshit. There is no proof of such a claim, and if anything, the hamburgers are made of soy (fact) which lowers T if I am not mistaken.

[quote]SSC wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

yeah thats not a legitimate reason. at all.

That’s not a concern. As long as you can detect (not-so) subliminal bigotry in HH’s posts, he’s done his job.[/quote]

How is it bigotry? It’s generally conceded that testosterone is required in men, to gain muscle. If someone gains a lot of muscle even while on a poor diet, the conclusion is that they have somehow elevated Test. That doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

Why don’t you refute it, instead of playing the race card?

yeah! I’m going to go commit multiple heinous crimes so I can get locked up and get fucking HYOOGE!

I think if I do a 5-10 bid, I could easily gain 50 lbs. of solid muscle.

PRISON HERE I COME!

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
SSC wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Turiel wrote:
I recently went to visit a friend of mine in jail, (beat up a guy with a golf club)… and I saw other of the prisioners, and most of them are FUCKIN HUGE, and not fat huge, they are ripped…
Im not a big guy, i have 17" arms, but I know a good pysisique when i see one.

This guys eat 2 or 3 times a day, and the quality of the food, is questionable. So how do they get that kind of bodies without supplements, high protein diets etc… ??? Is excersise and rest all you really need?

Cons have higher Testosterone levels than ordinary. That’s probably what got them into prison in the first place. Mama didn’t tell 'em to up and join the Marines. Over there, they could kill ragheads for fun but here killing and robbing/looting are verboten.

yeah thats not a legitimate reason. at all.

That’s not a concern. As long as you can detect (not-so) subliminal bigotry in HH’s posts, he’s done his job.

How is it bigotry? It’s generally conceded that testosterone is required in men, to gain muscle. If someone gains a lot of muscle even while on a poor diet, the conclusion is that they have somehow elevated Test. That doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

Why don’t you refute it, instead of playing the race card?
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do you really think just because they have 3 designated chow times those are the only times they eat?

people get killed in prison

people smuggle drugs into prison

but you believe they obey the rules of eating under the strictest scrupulously? ok.

there was a video of an Australian bodybuilder who went to jail for steroid possesion/trafficking yet even while in prison he kept his massive build, this is because he got a ton of extra food and busted his ass. cant tell whether he was on anything or not but the main point is you can still get plenty of food in prison and you dont need it to be from the “100 best food for guys” list either in order for it to work.

It is my opinion (and I say opinion, because I can’t remember the study I read that provided evidence for it) that most people behind bars are there for non-violent drug offenses.

BUT

I think when we examine violent offenders, Their T varies positively with the extremity of their offenses.

Testosterone levels are directly correlated with severity of crimes. “Free testosterone was measured in the saliva of 89 male prison inmates. Inmates with higher testosterone concentrations had more often been convicted of violent crimes. The relationship was most striking at the extremes of the testosterone distribution, where 9 out of 11 inmates with the lowest testosterone concentrations had committed nonviolent crimes, and 10 out of 11 inmates with the highest testosterone concentrations had committed violent crimes. Among the inmates convicted of nonviolent crimes, those higher in testosterone received longer times to serve before parole and longer punishments for disciplinary infractions in prison. In the housing unit where peer ratings were most reliable, inmates rated as tougher by their peers were higher in testosterone.” (Psychosom. Med. 1987; 49: 174).

http://www.anthropogeny.com/Testosterone%20and%20Socioeconomic%20Differences%20in%20Mortality.htm

I just pulled this off an ‘I’m lucky’ google search, so take it with a pillar of salt. I doesn’t say the prison population has higher testosterone, and it doesn’t say you have a higher chance of being in prison if you have high testosterone. All it says is that people that commit repeated violent crimes tend to have higher testosterone than people that have crimes for less violent, less frequent offenses.

Well said.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Most people in life are driftwood.

[/quote]

Lifting in prison,
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=lifting+in+prison&hl=en&emb=0&aq=0&oq=lifting+in+#

[quote]
Headhunter wrote:
Most people in life are driftwood. [/quote]

Except for people who post on T-Nation.

[quote]Jetric9 wrote:
Lifting in prison,
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=lifting+in+prison&hl=en&emb=0&aq=0&oq=lifting+in+#[/quote]

This video is without question in some Federal prison, and I would say at a security level of about a low-medium. The Khaki uniforms and grey sweats give it away. Clearly you all see how built and swole these guys are. You wanna talk about INTENSITY! Here you have it. You see some inmates talk about how weights help them deal with stress, so as to not take it out on other inmates. You also see white guys and black guys cheering each other on, regardless of anything else. So at bare minimum, weights provide things like racial barriers to be better tolerated.

I also want to touch on what Live mentioned above. He is 100% correct about eating. There is a commissary where you can buy certain foods ( pouches of tuna, chicken breast, salmon, turkey) as well as some fruits and sweets. You are not limited to only having your 3 squares a day. If you cannot afford anything more, than you are guaranteed at least those 3 meals. I think the survival mechanism is a bigger factor in why guys pack on muscle in the joint, other than just lifting most of the day.

God this video brings back memories.

Maximus, FCI or USP?

[quote]40&Big wrote:
Maximus, FCI or USP?[/quote]

If you are asking about me, I was in the FCI, FTC, and FPC.

Maximus, what facilities were you at?