[quote]hardgnr wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Really, why people go through effort to be a douche to people they don’t even know? Its like they are trying to prove to be men but don’t realise they are doing the exact opposite.
I would probably be a douche too if my toilets drained in the wrong direction.
DB
For the record, toilets here have about 1/10 of the water of american toilets. I have no idea why you guys need a toilet bowl 3/4 full of water to flush a shit. That being said, it doesn’t have time to twirl. It just splashes around for a second and its full again. Your theory is invalid.[/quote]
Your response shows you to be a douche, thereby proving my point entirely. And we use a lot of water because we have a lot of water to waste. It’s fun. Douche.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
I have no beef about the guy not moving. He was there first, and thats fair.
Why should you have a beef? If anything, he should be annoyed with you even SUGGESTING he move…
Anyway you slice it, you were 100 % wrong here, and you pissed the guy off enough for him to rack the bar really high, obviously because you annoyed the shit out of him in the first place… [/quote]
I guess I did.
Personally, if I were rowing the weight he was, I would just use the floor and free up equipment for somebody else, even if they were doing curls. I really couldn’t give a shit what exercise people choose on certain equipment. Like X said, there is a point where rows can stress your back, but this wasn’t the scenario. I said before, I try to come across as polite and friendly and I just thought it would be win-win this way.
Didn’t think I would annoy him that much though, he spent more time talking then lifting anyway. Maybe he didn’t like my face.
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Really, why people go through effort to be a douche to people they don’t even know? Its like they are trying to prove to be men but don’t realise they are doing the exact opposite.
I would probably be a douche too if my toilets drained in the wrong direction.
DB
For the record, toilets here have about 1/10 of the water of american toilets. I have no idea why you guys need a toilet bowl 3/4 full of water to flush a shit. That being said, it doesn’t have time to twirl. It just splashes around for a second and its full again. Your theory is invalid.[/quote]
My shits usually take 2-3 flushes, and th pluger is always on standby. I’d be fucked if they started rationing water.
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
I have no beef about the guy not moving. He was there first, and thats fair.
Why should you have a beef? If anything, he should be annoyed with you even SUGGESTING he move…
Anyway you slice it, you were 100 % wrong here, and you pissed the guy off enough for him to rack the bar really high, obviously because you annoyed the shit out of him in the first place…
I guess I did.
Personally, if I were rowing the weight he was, I would just use the floor and free up equipment for somebody else, even if they were doing curls. I really couldn’t give a shit what exercise people choose on certain equipment. Like X said, there is a point where rows can stress your back, but this wasn’t the scenario. I said before, I try to come across as polite and friendly and I just thought it would be win-win this way.
Didn’t think I would annoy him that much though, he spent more time talking then lifting anyway. Maybe he didn’t like my face.[/quote]
Maybe he didn’t like your face checking out his smokin girlfriend. Most dudes are way more obvious than they like to believe when checking out chicks.
WTF?
You guys are bashing the OP like he was a dick for even asking. All he did was ask. In a facility with only ONE rack it would be general courtesy to to move.
He was rowing a little over HALF his BW. Pick the shit up. Set it on an unused bench. If pulling 140 taxes your back at 250lbs, you got problems. As others have said, (and I don’t care what angle your doing them) barbell rows tax your back and it’s put in a more taxing position for a longer period of time than pulling it from the floor.
By all means, do your rows in the rack if no one needs it, I do. My gym only has 1 rack, I’ve asked dudes to move for me so I could squat, they have, and I will ALWAYS move if I’m doing anything other than squats and someone needs it.
The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.
hardgnr asked if he would move. He wasn’t a dick about it. He backed off and the guy pulled a fucking childish move.
[quote]Itchy wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Really, why people go through effort to be a douche to people they don’t even know? Its like they are trying to prove to be men but don’t realise they are doing the exact opposite.
I would probably be a douche too if my toilets drained in the wrong direction.
DB
For the record, toilets here have about 1/10 of the water of american toilets. I have no idea why you guys need a toilet bowl 3/4 full of water to flush a shit. That being said, it doesn’t have time to twirl. It just splashes around for a second and its full again. Your theory is invalid.
My shits usually take 2-3 flushes, and th pluger is always on standby. I’d be fucked if they started rationing water.[/quote]
I’ve never needed a plunger in my life. Therefore, Australian toilets > American toilets. I couldn’t imagine sucking shit back out of a toilet.
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Itchy wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
hardgnr wrote:
Really, why people go through effort to be a douche to people they don’t even know? Its like they are trying to prove to be men but don’t realise they are doing the exact opposite.
I would probably be a douche too if my toilets drained in the wrong direction.
DB
For the record, toilets here have about 1/10 of the water of american toilets. I have no idea why you guys need a toilet bowl 3/4 full of water to flush a shit. That being said, it doesn’t have time to twirl. It just splashes around for a second and its full again. Your theory is invalid.
My shits usually take 2-3 flushes, and th pluger is always on standby. I’d be fucked if they started rationing water.
I’ve never needed a plunger in my life. Therefore, Australian toilets > American toilets. I couldn’t imagine sucking shit back out of a toilet.[/quote]
hehe It is truthfully an almost daily ritual with me. I won’t sit down for a bowel evacuation unless I have my trusty plunger at the ready.
[quote]cueball wrote:
WTF?
You guys are bashing the OP like he was a dick for even asking. All he did was ask. In a facility with only ONE rack it would be general courtesy to to move.
The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.
[/quote]
Best post yet.
Granted, you had an hour, you could have done squats later.
[quote]cueball wrote:
WTF?
You guys are bashing the OP like he was a dick for even asking. All he did was ask. In a facility with only ONE rack it would be general courtesy to to move.
He was rowing a little over HALF his BW. Pick the shit up. Set it on an unused bench. If pulling 140 taxes your back at 250lbs, you got problems. As others have said, (and I don’t care what angle your doing them) barbell rows tax your back and it’s put in a more taxing position for a longer period of time than pulling it from the floor.
By all means, do your rows in the rack if no one needs it, I do. My gym only has 1 rack, I’ve asked dudes to move for me so I could squat, they have, and I will ALWAYS move if I’m doing anything other than squats and someone needs it.
The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.
hardgnr asked if he would move. He wasn’t a dick about it. He backed off and the guy pulled a fucking childish move.
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Asking someone who is seriously training (and not just sitting on the equipment taking up space) if they could move IS a being a dick. the other guy was there first and whatever the OP wanted involved the other guy changing everything he was doing to accommodate the OP. That is about as much of a dick as you can get.
This was not someone simply asking to work in on a machine.
Like Lank wrote above, this is also a dick move if you are MUCH weaker and try to work in with someone on free weights who is much stronger. You are now making that person’s workout more of a hassle because all of the weights need to be stripped for you alone.
It is like some of you need lessons in gym etiquette. This should be common sense to most of you.
The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.
Hardgnr - You don’t have all the facts, so I would caution you in judging someone. How do you know the guy isn’t recovering from a low back injury? I mean come on here. You asked, he said no, that should have been it. But acting like a know it all, you said it would be or should be no problem to lift that amount of weight off the floor for rows.
With his GF or whoever standing there, that is basically an insult. Even if he is perfectly healthy, you basically just called him out for using light weights in front of a “smoking hottie” who maybe he is trying to reach GF status with.
People need to learn to respect other people and not pass judgement because you can’t get your way right now. If you had to squeeze in a workout in 1 hour, you should have a backup plan, hell maybe do leg presses for one workout instead of squats. Do you really think it would have derailed your lifelong progressin? In 5 years would you be smaller or weaker if you had done leg presses or single leg squats? Hell go on the open floor and do some overhead squats, you don’t need a rack for that.
Asking wasn’t wrong, but if someone says no, then you really need to just move on with your life.
Lol, that’s taking it a bit far. IF the reason this guy placed the bar so high was to piss off the OP, he’s a childish douchebag. Granted, the OP was in the wrong first by asking him to move. Let us hope he didn’t ask in the middle of a set.[/quote]
Of course I did. How else would I get his attention? I tapped on his shoulder mid-set, and proceeded to put my hand on the bar, pushing it down as he was trying to pull it up. With my free hand I squeezed his gf’s ass and gave it a quick slap before he knew what was going on. I then showed him my name on the squat rack because since nobody else squats there, I rightfully own it.
Of course I didn’t ask mid set. What am I? A douchebag?
Asking someone who is seriously training (and not just sitting on the equipment taking up space) if they could move IS a being a dick. the other guy was there first and whatever the OP wanted involved the other guy changing everything he was doing to accommodate the OP. That is about as much of a dick as you can get.
This was not someone simply asking to work in on a machine.
Like Lank wrote above, this is also a dick move if you are MUCH weaker and try to work in with someone on free weights who is much stronger. You are now making that person’s workout more of a hassle because all of the weights need to be stripped for you alone.
It is like some of you need lessons in gym . This should be common sense to most of you.[/quote]
First off, he didn’t ask him to “change everything he was doing”. He asked him to pick it up off the floor. He would still have been doing rows.
Also, your still throwing out that the OP is “much weaker” just because of BW numbers. If he was 250 rowing 140, I’d say he was more fat than strong. You seem to be doing something that you chastise others for here. Not actually reading what was said.
He didn’t ask to work in, he asked him if he could use the rack. So the dude would not have been stripping weight. He would merely be pulling the weight from the floor instead of of the rack. With a weight I’m sure you would agree wouldn’t be an issue. At that size, he should be CURLING that kind of weight if he’s as strong as you assume he is.
Lessons in the gym? About what? Common sense? That’s funny.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Hardgnr - You don’t have all the facts, so I would caution you in judging someone. How do you know the guy isn’t recovering from a low back injury? I mean come on here. You asked, he said no, that should have been it. But acting like a know it all, you said it would be or should be no problem to lift that amount of weight off the floor for rows. With his GF or whoever standing there, that is basically an insult. Even if he is perfectly healthy, you basically just called him out for using light weights in front of a “smoking hottie” who maybe he is trying to reach GF status with.
People need to learn to respect other people and not pass judgement because you can’t get your way right now. If you had to squeeze in a workout in 1 hour, you should have a backup plan, hell maybe do leg presses for one workout instead of squats. Do you really think it would have derailed your lifelong progressin? In 5 years would you be smaller or weaker if you had done leg presses or single leg squats? Hell go on the open floor and do some overhead squats, you don’t need a rack for that.
Asking wasn’t wrong, but if someone says no, then you really need to just move on with your life.
V[/quote]
Good post.
However, while “asking” in itself may not be wrong, asking someone to stop what they are doing and change it up simply because you exist IS wrong. I don’t fault the guy in question for how he acted at all…and I am still trying to understand what the big deal is with putting “20kg” on the top rung of the rack. How is that an issue?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Lol, that’s taking it a bit far. IF the reason this guy placed the bar so high was to piss off the OP, he’s a childish douchebag. Granted, the OP was in the wrong first by asking him to move. Let us hope he didn’t ask in the middle of a set.[/quote]
Agreed. It’s not something I would do given the same situation, but I can see why the guy did it…
The holier-than-though " I’m bigger, I’ve made it, so I can do whatever, wherever, whenever" without ANY consideration for a fellow gym member is fucking stupid.
What is this in reference to? [/quote]
This:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Here’s a tip…if someone is really that big, chances are they know exactly what they are doing in the gym and why. They won’t be moving out of the way to change their entire routine for someone that much smaller simply because they are impatient and can’t wait until they are done.
But hey, it must make you feel better to think the guy bigger and stronger than you…with the hotter girlfriend, is inadequate in some way. It couldn’t just be…that he passed your level up a long time ago.[/quote]
First off, he didn’t ask him to “change everything he was doing”. He asked him to pick it up off the floor. He would still have been doing rows.[/quote]
WTF? He would not be doing rows like he was in the first place. That is like asking someone to get off the straight leg calf machine and do them standing so you can use the machine because you are in a rush. Why the fuck should someone change what they are doing for you or anyone else?
[quote]
Also, your still throwing out that the OP is “much weaker” just because of BW numbers. If he was 250 rowing 140, I’d say he was more fat than strong. You seem to be doing something that you chastise others for here. Not actually reading what was said.[/quote]
You are clueless. You don’t know about any other injuries this guy may have had. You don’t know what he was training for, if he had a contest coming up, if he was simply weaker that day. You KNOW NOTHING but are assuming all of this negative shit all because the OP was in a rush.
Cute.
It is funny…that this many people are devoid of it lately.
Asking someone to move is impolite any way you cut it. It would be just as impolite for a 280 lb guy to ask a 140 lb guy to move out of the squat rack. Even if the small guy was doing some weird shit no-one needs a squat rack for.
The squat-curlers pay the same membership dues as me, so they can have at it.
