What does it mean when it’s announcing the rules and says “only the ref can stop the fight”? You no, when they lost the others like no 3 knockdown etc.
I ask because, is it as simple as it sounds? Does it mean the corner can’t throw in the towel etc?
Beterbiev is looking good no doubt. Def an exciting prospect. Erm…guys he’s kncoked out (notable) campillo and cloud have seen better days though. I think they’ve had he spirit beaten out of them. But still, quality opposition to be knocking out in your first 10 fights.
I hadn’t heard about him being heavy weight but now you point it out, he does look a big big 175
[quote]CMdad wrote:
How does anyone feel about Beterbiev at 175? He looked pretty menacing in his win over Campillo. I know he’s fought as high as heavyweight but if he can keep getting down to 175 he could continue to do some real damage. All of a sudden, the light heavies are pretty compelling.[/quote]
i may be wrong but im pretty sure the commentator says he struggles alot to make 175.
he looked good.
[quote]TheCB wrote:
[quote]CMdad wrote:
How does anyone feel about Beterbiev at 175? He looked pretty menacing in his win over Campillo. I know he’s fought as high as heavyweight but if he can keep getting down to 175 he could continue to do some real damage. All of a sudden, the light heavies are pretty compelling.[/quote]
i may be wrong but im pretty sure the commentator says he struggles alot to make 175.
he looked good.
If I’m not mistaken, he won a silver at the 2012 Olympics as a heavyweight. Granted this means anywhere from 178lbs to 200lbs but he looks like he could easily make the transition to heavyweight in the professional ranks. I would guess he probably steps into the ring at 180-185 after making weight and he’s pretty damn lean. All of a sudden, Russia is starting to produce a lot of must-see boxers (ie. GGG, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Provodnikov etc.). Most of them seem to fight in the same general style too which is quite different than the stereotypical continental European style. I really like the way these guys fight… almost reminds me a little bit of Julio Cesar Chavez the way they relentlessly stalk their opponent around the ring and come straight at them (with the exception of GGG who does employ various angled attacks quite a bit).
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ward vs kovalev 175 who ppl got?
i actually rather see that than mayweather pac.
I’m an unabashed Kovalev fan so I’d have to take him against Ward, especially being the naturally bigger man. Kovalev often seems to struggle at making weight for 175, more of a natural cruiserweight. Also, with Ward’s long layoff I’d say there’s probably a fair bit of ring rust there to shake off whereas Kovalev is coming off 2 convincing wins over top light heavies, both of whom fight with very different styles. Kovalev has shown an ability to hang with boxers and punchers and to adapt his gameplan accordingly. I’ve never been as big a Ward fan as most people are so obviously I’m biased.
kovalev looks a better boxer every fight. far more than just a banger. so hes a very very fair pick. i no its a cliche, but honestly a 50/50 toss up for me. one things for sure, ward will have 1, maybe 2 tune up fights before he even considers that fight.
i dont no about kovalev struggling for weight tho, anything youve picked up on? he does hit 174, and i think its a big decision moving up to cruiser where guys can come in at 199 and then rehydrate. cruisers are big big guys.
I would only pick Kovalev in the event that Ward confirms my suspicions
that is, that his inactivity isn’t just regular inactivity, its something much more concerning for his career. I mean almost two years of inactivity. Its more than just having beat everyone at his weight class (which is also not true).
because otherwise, ward is a GENIUS. Kovalev proved hes more than just a slugger, but come on lets not start sucking his cock too much, hes not THAT diverse of a fighter. His ticket still is him being a puncher.
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
I would only pick Kovalev in the event that Ward confirms my suspicions
that is, that his inactivity isn’t just regular inactivity, its something much more concerning for his career. I mean almost two years of inactivity. Its more than just having beat everyone at his weight class (which is also not true).
because otherwise, ward is a GENIUS. Kovalev proved hes more than just a slugger, but come on lets not start sucking his cock too much, hes not THAT diverse of a fighter. His ticket still is him being a puncher.[/quote]
Without question, Ward is the much better boxer. I don’t think anyone would really challenge that. However, Kovalev is a good enough tactician to get himself into range enough times to connect with his preternatural power. And, again, Kovalev is riding a huge wave of momentum right now that, even with a couple of tuneups first, Ward would be hard pressed to match. I just can’t see Kovalev letting this go the distance.
funny thing boxing - khan was criticised for a potential fight with algeri.
then…cotto annouces geale at 157
brook vs frankie gavin (if your overseas dont bother googling him, just no hes going to get ko)
and then…
ward vs paul smith (he lost twice, the second time convincingly on points, to arthur abraham)…
suddently khan vs algeri doesnt seem so bad huh?!
but anyway, matthyese vs ruslan - potential foty here
i didnt realise ruslan is quite small. lucas looked bigger at the weigh in.
i think matthyese will stop him or win ud.
One hell of an overhand right:
Another KO for Anthony Joshua. Bring on Kevin Johnson. If this young guy can continue to progress, especially developing a worthy jab (a la Lennox Lewis) hopefully by going greater distances in upcoming contests, then he has real potential to take a world belt in the next 2 years.
Read today that GGG’s and Carl Froch’s people are in preliminary negotiations for a fight at 168. This would be a fantastic fight if it came to be a reality. I think Froch’s size and volume punching could give Golovkin some real problems. If Froch was a few years younger I might lean towards him, but I think he has declined a bit in the last couple of years. Still, it is an interesting stylistic match up in which both guys have a legitimate shot. I can only hope it actually happens.
I don’t want this fight for Froch. I don’t think the risk to reward is there. He needs to retire on that Wembley victory.
I fancy ggg on points. froch has declined his last couple of fights. if it were the froch that fought bute and Kessler then I thinik he beats ggg . but hes declined like I say. look at the second fight with groves. it was close until the knockout. the froch of a few years ago would have walked through groves in a few rounds.
hes 38 and imo, taken more punishment than almost any fighter ive seen in recent years. he has 0 defence and a chin made of steel.
funny thing is, because he has such a poor defence, I think he gets technically underrated. if you look at his jab, combination punching its superb. when he puts 3,4, 5+ combinations together and unloads, opponents get hurt and cover up. there is a reason hes number 7 pound for pound fighter with ring.
if you look at when hes been beaten (schooled tbf) against ward, it was against a special boxer. a guy who, imo is technically the best boxer in the world.
its one hell of a fight.
but as a fan and someone whos followed him for a long time, id rather he retired or fightHopkins.
dirrel vs degale this weekend.
pulling for degale to win this. and I think he will. hes looked good recently and dirrell hasn’t been active enough agains top opposition.
dare I say I fancy degale stoppage
[quote]CarltonJ wrote:
I don’t want this fight for Froch. I don’t think the risk to reward is there. He needs to retire on that Wembley victory.
I fancy ggg on points. froch has declined his last couple of fights. if it were the froch that fought bute and Kessler then I thinik he beats ggg . but hes declined like I say. look at the second fight with groves. it was close until the knockout. the froch of a few years ago would have walked through groves in a few rounds.
hes 38 and imo, taken more punishment than almost any fighter ive seen in recent years. he has 0 defence and a chin made of steel.
funny thing is, because he has such a poor defence, I think he gets technically underrated. if you look at his jab, combination punching its superb. when he puts 3,4, 5+ combinations together and unloads, opponents get hurt and cover up. there is a reason hes number 7 pound for pound fighter with ring.
if you look at when hes been beaten (schooled tbf) against ward, it was against a special boxer. a guy who, imo is technically the best boxer in the world.
its one hell of a fight.
but as a fan and someone whos followed him for a long time, id rather he retired or fightHopkins. [/quote]
hey that hopkins fight is an idea
Hopkins was saying he wants to get a name fighter in for his farewell event, and I think froch is an interesting - and out of love for hopkins - a relatively safe choice too.
He can beat hopkins but he probably won’t hurt him like Kovalev did.
The only problem I can forsee is their styles will probably clash in such a way that it ends up being a clinch fest.
I would back Froch 99 times from 100 but if you listen to him recently his head has been turned and he’s clearly got other interests such as appearing in movies. That, together with injuries, suggests he should retire a legend.
Agreed. DeGale is the real deal IMO.
[quote]CarltonJ wrote:
dirrel vs degale this weekend.
pulling for degale to win this. and I think he will. hes looked good recently and dirrell hasn’t been active enough agains top opposition.
dare I say I fancy degale stoppage[/quote]
agree i think degale will stop him
think dirrell could come in overweight like alot of haymon’s guys and he has struggled in the later rounds recently too.
i expect degale to put on a real performance.
also expect a stoppage from brook, hope a win for kevin mitchell
hury fury being linked with arreola next would be impressed if it happens for someone of his age and experience.