[quote]Professor X wrote:
You simply didn’t like that I responded. No one gives a shit if you don’t like me.
Crying about everything I write just makes you all look like you are sexually attracted to me.[/quote]
Its not that I dont like you. I just knew you would have some bullshit to offer in this thread. I was right.
I dont like bullshit.
The comment about sexual attraction says a lot about you. Get off the percs, doc.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That doesn’t mean that is how they all got there.[/quote]
I never had a goldfish and Ive always wondered why people like them as pets.
Now that we’ve both contributed irrelevant comments to the thread maybe it’s time to move on.
WHO THE FUCK SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ‘HOW THEY ALL GOT THERE’. The comment made was about how NOW, in the year TWO THOUSAND AND TWELVE, most pro bodybuilders are growing into shows; making their offseason weights not that far from their contest weight.
You really are the dumbest smart person Ive come across.
[quote]redondo wrote:
So with proper guidance and access to the right kinds of drugs, even less developed bodybuilders (lets say the new pros for example who have not yet reached their desired size or muscle maturity) can stay lean year round and then “grow into a show” as opposed to the traditional bulking method?
Will their development be compromised somehow? Or will the positives outweigh the negatives (ie… lesser muscle gained but need to lose lesser fat so lower risk of losing the newly gained muscle). FYI i have no knowledge on drug protocols so dun bash me if i’m wrong… just asking to satisfy my own curiosity lol. [/quote]
Growing into a show and adding muscle in the offseason are not mutually exclusive endeavors for ‘less developed bodybuilders’.
Are there guys in the NPC and new pros running assloads of gear year round? Yes. Definitely. Are they using drugs as effectively as possible? Who knows. So it’s not to say that drug use has diminshed today but the trend is to use drugs more efficiently, IMO.
Dude, the only one with bullshit here is you. Most pros do not stay 5-15lbs within contest shape. THAT was what was bullshit in this thread so calling me out for laughing at “5lbs” is bullshit.
No one needs your commentary on every post I write. Your just a guy with his face covered who doesn’t know how to have a discussion without that shit.
Congrats.
Completely anonymous hardness isn’t very intimidating…but it can be funny.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]redondo wrote:
So with proper guidance and access to the right kinds of drugs, even less developed bodybuilders (lets say the new pros for example who have not yet reached their desired size or muscle maturity) can stay lean year round and then “grow into a show” as opposed to the traditional bulking method?
Will their development be compromised somehow? Or will the positives outweigh the negatives (ie… lesser muscle gained but need to lose lesser fat so lower risk of losing the newly gained muscle). FYI i have no knowledge on drug protocols so dun bash me if i’m wrong… just asking to satisfy my own curiosity lol. [/quote]
Like I just wrote, in general, what you will see is guys like Kai Greene hitting the pros and then blowing the fuck up. THEN, once he’s freaking huge, then he will work on more refinement and stay closer to his goal weight.
Yeah, NOW he will likely work on refining what he has…because he has filled out his frame to an insane level and is now side by side with the greats.
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But you laughed when someone said that earlier? Was someone tickling you or are you unable to remain consistent in your opinons?
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You won’t usually find some NPC guy at 216lbs “growing into a show” until he hits 270 on stage at the Olympia.[/quote]
^^ which is why pro bodybuilders were SPECIFICALLY mentioned.
And CURRENT drug protocols were referenced. Not what Kai was doing 5 years ago.
Lol wtf, having a measure of anonymity on the internet isn’t allowed now? Sweet double standard from the ‘no first names’ guy. Tell that to Maiden3.16 and HolyMacaroni and all the rest of those guys.
This thread has jumped the shark. I’m propositioning you for anal by typing all of this, Xavier.
This seems like a case of unstoppable force vs immoveable object lool
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
This seems like a case of unstoppable force vs immoveable object lool[/quote]
Hahahaha yes, and I love watching it unfold.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
This seems like a case of unstoppable force vs immoveable object lool[/quote]
Hahahaha yes, and I love watching it unfold.[/quote]
the only way this can ever end is if one of them gives up
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
This seems like a case of unstoppable force vs immoveable object lool[/quote]
Hahahaha yes, and I love watching it unfold.[/quote]
the only way this can ever end is if one of them gives up
[/quote]
…and that will never happen.
I was thinking something like this…
skip to 3:30
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]redondo wrote:
So with proper guidance and access to the right kinds of drugs, even less developed bodybuilders (lets say the new pros for example who have not yet reached their desired size or muscle maturity) can stay lean year round and then “grow into a show” as opposed to the traditional bulking method?
Will their development be compromised somehow? Or will the positives outweigh the negatives (ie… lesser muscle gained but need to lose lesser fat so lower risk of losing the newly gained muscle). FYI i have no knowledge on drug protocols so dun bash me if i’m wrong… just asking to satisfy my own curiosity lol. [/quote]
Assuming that muscle mass is a function of how many drugs you are taking, then yes, anyone can grow into a show. Ramp up the androgens, combine it with some fat-burners, and you will end up in contest condition heavier than you started.
Rather than spend all year on high doses, compromising health and costing a lot of money, people have figured out that just cranking up the dose in the weeks before a contest will yield the same result at less personal detriment.
Case in point: Phil Heath. He definitely gets smaller and less “freaky” in the off-season, just symptomatic of lower doses. IMO he is one of the prime candidates for staying within 10-15 lbs of contest weight year-round.
It’s not just the domain of the SHWs either…just another way to skin the cat.
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just look at Kevin Levrone, he was the prime example of growing into shows[/quote]
He wrote the book on it…but as you pointed out, some of those well known bulkers outshined him a few times.
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
I was thinking something like this…
skip to 3:30[/quote]
that was the only good scene in that whole movie IMO
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Lol wtf, having a measure of anonymity on the internet isn’t allowed now? Sweet double standard from the ‘no first names’ guy. Tell that to Maiden3.16 and HolyMacaroni and all the rest of those guys.
This thread has jumped the shark. I’m propositioning you for anal by typing all of this, Xavier. [/quote]
Not my point. I don’t care about his name. I mentioned his face being covered. None of the other guys you mentioned talk this much shit. Big difference.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]redondo wrote:
So with proper guidance and access to the right kinds of drugs, even less developed bodybuilders (lets say the new pros for example who have not yet reached their desired size or muscle maturity) can stay lean year round and then “grow into a show” as opposed to the traditional bulking method?
Will their development be compromised somehow? Or will the positives outweigh the negatives (ie… lesser muscle gained but need to lose lesser fat so lower risk of losing the newly gained muscle). FYI i have no knowledge on drug protocols so dun bash me if i’m wrong… just asking to satisfy my own curiosity lol. [/quote]
Like I just wrote, in general, what you will see is guys like Kai Greene hitting the pros and then blowing the fuck up. THEN, once he’s freaking huge, then he will work on more refinement and stay closer to his goal weight.
Yeah, NOW he will likely work on refining what he has…because he has filled out his frame to an insane level and is now side by side with the greats.
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But you laughed when someone said that earlier? Was someone tickling you or are you unable to remain consistent in your opinons?
WTf? Kai just blew up and made the whole world pay attention. Who the fuck cares if THIS WEEK he isn’t bulking up when we all just saw him do it in the big leagues?
Phil Heath got huge. That didn’t come from staying within “5-15lbs” of contest weight even if he is down in weight right this moment.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, the only one with bullshit here is you. Most pros do not stay 5-15lbs within contest shape. THAT was what was bullshit in this thread so calling me out for laughing at “5lbs” is bullshit.
No one needs your commentary on every post I write. Your just a guy with his face covered who doesn’t know how to have a discussion without that shit.
Congrats.
Completely anonymous hardness isn’t very intimidating…but it can be funny.[/quote]
You do realize that if I lived in a country where it wasnt a felony to use the drugs that I have used I would not hide my face, right?
I mean you get that right?
Youre reaching at this point.
Or is that a threat? Are you saying that if you saw my face you’d do something aobut my posts? Like fight me or pop a wheelie and drive in circles around me like a real badass?
Your inferiority complex perceives my posts as an attempt to intimidate you. LOL @ that. What are we 10 years old? Grow the fuck up. Im not being ‘hard’. Im not some piece of street trash looking for a fight.
This is the internet you psychopath. You posted bullshit and I called you on it, again. You have no reply to you resort to ad hominems. What else is new.
If you dont want to see my commentary, block me.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Phil Heath got huge. That didn’t come from staying within “5-15lbs” of contest weight even if he is down in weight right this moment.[/quote]
No one said it did.
Follow the bouncing ball please.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Lol wtf, having a measure of anonymity on the internet isn’t allowed now? Sweet double standard from the ‘no first names’ guy. Tell that to Maiden3.16 and HolyMacaroni and all the rest of those guys.
This thread has jumped the shark. I’m propositioning you for anal by typing all of this, Xavier. [/quote]
Not my point. I don’t care about his name. I mentioned his face being covered. None of the other guys you mentioned talk this much shit. Big difference.[/quote]
If I send you a picture with my face exposed
WHAT
ARE
YOU
GOING
TO
DO
ABOUT
IT
?
Are you going to get all hard?? Is this the ‘hardness’ youre speaking of?
Are you proving how hard you are??
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, the only one with bullshit here is you. Most pros do not stay 5-15lbs within contest shape. THAT was what was bullshit in this thread so calling me out for laughing at “5lbs” is bullshit.
No one needs your commentary on every post I write. Your just a guy with his face covered who doesn’t know how to have a discussion without that shit.
Congrats.
Completely anonymous hardness isn’t very intimidating…but it can be funny.[/quote]
You do realize that if I lived in a country where it wasnt a felony to use the drugs that I have used I would not hide my face, right?
I mean you get that right?
Youre reaching at this point.
Or is that a threat? Are you saying that if you saw my face you’d do something aobut my posts? Like fight me or pop a wheelie and drive in circles around me like a real badass?
Your inferiority complex perceives my posts as an attempt to intimidate you. LOL @ that. What are we 10 years old? Grow the fuck up. Im not being ‘hard’. Im not some piece of street trash looking for a fight.
This is the internet you psychopath. You posted bullshit and I called you on it, again. You have no reply to you resort to ad hominems. What else is new.
If you dont want to see my commentary, block me. [/quote]
No, dude. I’m saying we both know you wouldn’t type half the stuff you do if we could see you. I get recognized from this site. I have friends who log in here but don’t post. I haven’t written anything here I wouldn’t say in public short of cutting way down on the cussing.