I said the following on the 19th of September last year in response to SteelyD expressing his dismay at the castrated Republicans and their relentless quest for bi-partisanship.
I wrote on 9/19/08:
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I’m tired of hearin this shit.
I am not interested in cooperation with marxist socialist destroyers. I want them defeated. I want their horrible ideas exposed and discredited. I want their policies permanently expunged from our national fabric. I would like to parade them into the UN building, take a giant saw, cut it and them loose and float them off into the Atlantic on their way to Europe where they belong.[/quote]
I have been calling, longing and praying for the permanent defeat and failure of everything Barack Obama stands for, (and his pernicious ideology has been well represented in DC long before his emergence) for at least 20 years. Actually closer to 25. Ever since I grew up.
Limbaugh simply states what anybody who cherishes what this nation was founded on has been saying for decades and all hell breaks loose. I haven’t heard him much in the last 10 or 12 years, but the speech at CPAC was right on.
If I had the inclination I’d type out the drearily predictable responses from a bunch of guys that are sure to show up in this thread, but I have to go eat my 2nd post leg day meal.
And no I do not believe that my brand of traditional conservatism can no longer win. And BTW, my views were firmly in place long before I knew who he was. If the brain dead Republicans could ever regain consciousness they would see what a ready made strategy is being handed to them by this socialist overthrow of the United States happening before their very eyes.
If the Libertarians have 3 synapses still firing they are at this moment preparing for what may actually be a viable opening for them.
I suspect there’s a sizable number of voters who got caught up in the campaign propaganda and who once the dust settles may wake up to what they’ve done in putting the halls of this nation’s power in the hands of her enemies.
Yes. Rush’s speech was great and told exactly what true conservativism is all about.
It’s sad how many people got caught up in “making history” instead of choosing the best candidate.
Yup. As much as I think Obama might be a nice guy to drink with, or whatever, I am diametrically opposed to his policy views and I want no quarter given where political defeat for him is sought. I hope his policies fail utterly AND are reversible. It will be no good if they fail but are so entrenched we can’t undo them.
I want Obama’s current agenda to fail. I want him over all the be a good president, not the arrogant asshole he is displaying he is at the moment. He is under the impression he can just do what he wants and nobody can stop him. That is my observation, but he isn’t one who carefully studies history though. People wanted change but not Marxism.
The stimulus, which hasn’t and likely won’t do anything but increase debt, is an example increasing power base over doing the most good. His proposed budget, which he is ready to go to war over would be stupidly funny if he wasn’t actually serious.
We do not want to be controlled, we do not want socialized medicine and we do not want the federal government to over see every policy in the land. We
People were lulled to sleep by fancy talk. I never had any doubt who this guy was. This would make even the federalists of yore cringe.
If the past 40 some odd days are what he is, I want him to fail miserably.
We need a president who can lead, not a power hungry socialist. We already know that does not work.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Yup. As much as I think Obama might be a nice guy to drink with, or whatever, I am diametrically opposed to his policy views and I want no quarter given where political defeat for him is sought. I hope his policies fail utterly AND are reversible. It will be no good if they fail but are so entrenched we can’t undo them.[/quote]
Fail at improving the economy? Or fail at increasing the government’s role in the economy, which some people believe will improve the economy?
Fail at making Americans safer? Or fail at adding gun and ammunition restrictions aimed at law-abiding citizens, which some people believe will make Americans safer?
Fail at making the world a better place? Or fail at using taxpayer-supported education and service programs to recruit a generation of youth committed to particular means of attempting to make the world a better place?
In each pair above, I would like Obama to fail at the second item.
[quote]NealRaymond2 wrote:
The question itself is problematic. Fail at what?
Fail at improving the economy? Or fail at increasing the government’s role in the economy, which some people believe will improve the economy?
Fail at making Americans safer? Or fail at adding gun and ammunition restrictions aimed at law-abiding citizens, which some people believe will make Americans safer?
Fail at making the world a better place? Or fail at using taxpayer-supported education and service programs to recruit a generation of youth committed to particular means of attempting to make the world a better place?
In each pair above, I would like Obama to fail at the second item.
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If people want Obama to fasil, and Obama is now running the country.
that means these same people want obama to run the country further into the ground and the country as a hole to fail, so that they can be proven right and say “I told you so”?
[quote]pat wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Yup. As much as I think Obama might be a nice guy to drink with, or whatever, I am diametrically opposed to his policy views and I want no quarter given where political defeat for him is sought. I hope his policies fail utterly AND are reversible. It will be no good if they fail but are so entrenched we can’t undo them.
Bill Clinton would be more fun to drink with…[/quote]
If people want Obama to fasil, and Obama is now running the country.
that means these same people want obama to run the country further into the ground and the country as a hole to fail, so that they can be proven right and say “I told you so”?
is that what Im hearing out of this?
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NO. The desire for Obama to fail is linked inextricably to the belief that America can recover from what he tries to do with it. It would be pointless if America dissolved under the strain. In some other sense, it is also the belief, for some people, that success for Obama means de facto death for the America they recognized, knew, grew up with, and loved. In other words, complete success for Obama means in their minds an irreversible slide to big gov’t socialism and nannyism, albeit it one that no one will see, understand, or acknowledge before it’s too late.
It has absolutely nothing to do with simply saying “I told you so”. It’s because they see his policies as damaging beyond words.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
I have a question.
If people want Obama to fasil, and Obama is now running the country.
that means these same people want obama to run the country further into the ground and the country as a hole to fail, so that they can be proven right and say “I told you so”?
is that what Im hearing out of this?
NO. The desire for Obama to fail is linked inextricably to the belief that America can recover from what he tries to do with it. It would be pointless if America dissolved under the strain. In some other sense, it is also the belief, for some people, that success for Obama means de facto death for the America they recognized, knew, grew up with, and loved. In other words, complete success for Obama means in their minds an irreversible slide to big gov’t socialism and nannyism, albeit it one that no one will see, understand, or acknowledge before it’s too late.
It has absolutely nothing to do with simply saying “I told you so”. It’s because they see his policies as damaging beyond words.[/quote]
I was just asking to make sure here. cause it seems like on this board mainly there is a huge GOP following and it almost seemed to me that they want him to fail simply to prove a point,I misunderstood though and I do admit I do not follow politics as I should, so this is an arena I should stay out of.
I personaly did not agree fully with Obamas stances or with Mcains stances either, and then there are a few from both sides I did agree with, I was torn so much that I did not vote at all.
I however do hope he does a good job of turning this country around like he says he can.
wishful thinking? Im sure it is but someone has to do something because standing around placing blame for past problems isnt really going to get anyone anyplace here.
If people want Obama to fasil, and Obama is now running the country.
that means these same people want obama to run the country further into the ground and the country as a hole to fail, so that they can be proven right and say “I told you so”?
is that what Im hearing out of this?
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You didn’t read or listen to anything that has been said. If you had you wouldn’t have said what you just did.
[quote]JamFly wrote:
Just by signing FOCA he went beyond failure.[/quote]
I think we pretty much crushed FOCA. Obama won’t touch it at this time because of the shit storm that has already ensued and it hasn’t even been resurrected yet.
What they are planning on doing is breaking it apart and attaching it to other bills. Sneaking it in, if you will. You know the pork he promised not to have in his signed legislation, yeah, that.
[quote]NealRaymond2 wrote:
The question itself is problematic. Fail at what?
Fail at improving the economy? Or fail at increasing the government’s role in the economy, which some people believe will improve the economy?
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Fail at using the economic crisis as an excuse to grow the government to never before seen proportions.