[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:
yeah, i had to take a bitch ass course(at my cost), see a psych. for an evaluation(at my cost of course), and show that i deliver narcotics to all sorts of fun neighborhoods. plus the police chief has to personally approve your app. time, money, and patientce.seems to be a pretty high cost so you can protect yourself.
to top it all off, if you go through that in your state california will not accept your ccw. california is one of two cities that only recognizes it’s own permits. i forget who the other is, i’m thinking ny but dont quote me.
A few years ago when I moved from Massachusetts (where I had a licence to carry for sporting purposes) to New Hampshire, I went to the local NH police department to find out what process I needed to go through in order to carry. The response I got from the licensing officer was, and I quote:
“Son, this is New Hampshire. You can wear the gun on your head if you want to. But if you want to carry concealed, here’s an application. Unless you have some big skeletons in your closet, we generally issue the license”.
To be precise, New Hampshire is a shall issue state. Unless you have some very specific skeletons in the closet, the licensing official must issue the license. By the way, the right of the INDIVIDUAL to keep and bear arms is in the NH constitution.
“All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property, and the state.”
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My buddy lived in NH and was denied a concealed carry permit because he got in a high speed chase with some cops in AZ because he thought he could outrun them and didn’t want to be late picking his brother up at an airport. What a knucklehead. After he had six cops and a chopper on him he decided to pull over “for safety’s sake”.
And I always thought NH was a Liberal State. I wonder if there are any BP stations there.
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I’d say it’s more of a libertarian state tha most. “Live free or die” is the offical state motto. It was one of the first two states to adopt “shall issue” laws. The other was Vermont.
And I always thought NH was a Liberal State. I wonder if there are any BP stations there.
I’d say it’s more of a libertarian state tha most. “Live free or die” is the offical state motto. It was one of the first two states to adopt “shall issue” laws. The other was Vermont.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
My buddy lived in NH and was denied a concealed carry permit because he got in a high speed chase with some cops in AZ because he thought he could outrun them and didn’t want to be late picking his brother up at an airport. What a knucklehead. After he had six cops and a chopper on him he decided to pull over “for safety’s sake”.
Mike
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It sounds to me that your buddy may have left some parts of the story out. Failure to stop doesn’t sound serios enough. For a non-resident a suitable person is defined as:
Saf-C 2103.01 Suitable Person.
(a) A license to carry pistols and revolvers shall be denied if it is determined that the applicant is not a suitable person to be licensed.
(b) A license shall be denied if any of the following factors exist:
(1) The reasons for which an applicant was denied a prior permit;
(2) The applicant was convicted of a felony;
(3) The applicant is a drug abuser;
(4) The applicant had a prior mental health problem, as defined in RSA 135-C:2, X;
(5) The applicant was convicted of a misdemeanor involving theft, drugs, or violence; or
(6) Any other evidence that would indicate the applicant is not suitable for licensing.
Excuse me. What is open carrying- in your hand? I guess concealed is in a pocket/tucked in your trousers?
It sounds quite intense out there, everyone’s got guns.
I’ve had some serious shit go down before, needless to say i’ve got a blade, and i boc, but i like the blade, i’ve been stuck before. But if i was caught with a blade, even mine which has a -3inch blade, i’d get FUCKED
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Excuse me. What is open carrying- in your hand? I guess concealed is in a pocket/tucked in your trousers?
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Open carry is out in the open for all the world to see, i.e., visible on your hip, or as the officer suggested, on your head. Concealed is hidden on your person or in your car out of sight, but within reach.
Forgive me (no agitation intended if you’re passionate) but it seems contrary, not being allowed to carry in social/consumer places. If you may carry to fight tyranny/violent confrontation, these things can all happen in bars, shops, etc, right?
And if the point of no guns in shops is because you might stick them up, you can rob someone equally on the street, right?
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Forgive me (no agitation intended if you’re passionate) but it seems contrary, not being allowed to carry in social/consumer places. If you may carry to fight tyranny/violent confrontation, these things can all happen in bars, shops, etc, right?
And if the point of no guns in shops is because you might stick them up, you can rob someone equally on the street, right?
Can someone explain this please?[/quote]
There is no logic. It is a compromise between those that believe honest citizens will make the right choices and those that think they will not.
Obviously no one wants a gun fight in a crowded bar and obviously a private bar has the right to not allow guns in the place.
I don’t understand why the government feels it has to meddle in some of these issues. Other than the fact that by definition the government meddles in all issues.
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Forgive me (no agitation intended if you’re passionate) but it seems contrary, not being allowed to carry in social/consumer places. If you may carry to fight tyranny/violent confrontation, these things can all happen in bars, shops, etc, right?
And if the point of no guns in shops is because you might stick them up, you can rob someone equally on the street, right?
Can someone explain this please?[/quote]
Not sure but the not carrying in bars has mostly to do with drinking when carrying. I can go into TGI Friday’s or any other food/booze establishment while carrying. It’s the straight booze places that we can’t. I don’t think the peanuts on the bar constitute food though.
Believe it or not, there was a day when we could drink (1) beer while on duty, with a meal.
We don’t make the rules, we just bitch about them and scratch our heads like everyone else.
Part of the point of carrying concealed is in a state where law abiding folks take the right to carry seriously, the “bad guys” aren’t quite sure who’s safe to mug. There’s a deterent effect.
I am generally pro-gun, but I am not for having people carry all time. It should stay in your house unless you have a reason to carry it. A gun? With shorts and sandals? What a joke.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Part of the point of carrying concealed is in a state where law abiding folks take the right to carry seriously, the “bad guys” aren’t quite sure who’s safe to mug. There’s a deterent effect.[/quote]
Bad guys know an easy mark when they see one.
If you look like the type that might carry a gun, I bet they’re probably staying away anyway.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I am generally pro-gun, but I am not for having people carry all time. It should stay in your house unless you have a reason to carry it. A gun? With shorts and sandals? What a joke.
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Why not? It’s not a fashion accessory. I just back from the store. The best grocery store in the area happens to be located in “the hood”. It’s hot today, and going to be even hotter tomorrow. I had on sneakers, t-shirt and cargo shorts [edit]. I saw no reason for me not to carry.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I am generally pro-gun, but I am not for having people carry all time. It should stay in your house unless you have a reason to carry it. A gun? With shorts and sandals? What a joke.
I’m glad I live in Jersey[/quote]
Airweight in a pocket holster. Small Glock in an Inside the Waistband holster.
I have a concealed permit in New Hampshire. I generally carry when I am going out alone. Riding a motorcycle or walking around the city by myself could lead to unpleasant encounters. I have never been in a physical fight in my life, and know I could never successfully defend myself without a weapon that does not require hand to hand combat.
Any man, even one my size (and women, too, for that matter), could pose a life threatening situation for me. Likewise, if I were to be out riding, and break down somewhere, I would be a sitting duck. A lone woman beside the road with a $10,000 Harley. Not a fun prospect.