[quote]pushharder wrote:
I may have to pick up something in 9mm. It’s the only major handgun caliber of which I don’t own. Since it’s the most common cartridge in the world it might be handy for the apocalypse.[/quote]
I used to have a 9mm for just this reason but eventually sold it. I figure that if things ever get that bad there will be plenty of guns lying around or I’ll already be dead.
[quote]anothrjrzmike wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Have to pick between Glock, Smith & Wesson, or Springfield.
Glock: G17 (Gen 3 or 4), G19 (Gen 3 or 4)
Smith & Wesson: M&P 9, M&P 9L, M&P 9C
Springfield: XD 9 Service, XD9 Tactical, XDm 9 Standard
I only got to hold the G17, G19, and XDm 9. I liked the feel of the XDm 9 and G17 the most, didn’t like the weight of the G19 so much. I’m a big guy with big hands so there’s that. The problem is the gun store I’m looking at right now is out of G17’s and I’m gonna need them soon. [/quote]
Glock. And go with the G21 (.45) instead of 9mm. [/quote]
I typed “have to” for a reason. Only 9mm, and only the firearms I listed.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
Well I just tested it out now, can’t say I noticed any halos. Maybe a different story some other time though, or at night with street lights, etc.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
Well I just tested it out now, can’t say I noticed any halos. Maybe a different story some other time though, or at night with street lights, etc.[/quote]
I haven’t noticed halos on any of the tritium sights I own/have owned/have used. Of course I don’t get halos/“lens flare” effects normally.
What I have experienced is the rear lamps, by virtue of being closer and more numerous, over powering the front and tending to shift my focus to the rear of the slide. This is a common enough/known issue and there are several common work arounds.
The Warren Tactical sights on my Glock use a yellow rear that is physically smaller than the lamp on the front sight. This works fantastic as the front sight pulls the attention naturally. The rear appears both smaller AND dimmer.
Different color rears to fronts-Green is the brightest, to our eyes, color for the tritium lamps. So a green front is paired with yellow or orang rears (which are dimmer). The effect is a bright green dot between two larger (closer to the eye) but dimmer dots. Meprolight, Trijicon, and Ameriglo all offer these set ups. To my knowledge they are not available in any of the factory/standard night sight options.
Home maid work around- Use a black or red dry erase sharpie marker to “dot” the lamps on the rear sight. This effectively “dims” the rears and can help shift focus to the front sight in low light conditions. Black just sort of dims the lamp while red dims and changes the color some. This is not a permanent alteration and I would absolutely do it if I was using issued gear.
Personally, I don’t like dots on the rear sight for daytime use so I am not as big a fan of standard Trijicon or Meprolights, though the Trijicon HD sights are awesome. I tend to like a plain rear, a dot or high visibility fron (Ameriglo CAP, HACK/I-Dot, Trij HD, or just paint) with tritium of different colors front and rear. I really like it when I have about half the thickness of the front sight in “empty”/light bar on each side of the front. This translates into fairly wide rear sight notches.
To PB Andy,
When are you starting the Academy?
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
I carry a S&W snub nose .38 every day. Easy to conceal. Reliable. Plenty powerful to get a beotch up out of my business. I have a Glock 23 .40 at home beside my bed. It leaves the house with me every now and then but it’s real job is to buy me time to get to my bedroom closet where my shotguns are located. I don’t like anything with a safety because that is one additional step to remember in a split second of amped up time.
[/quote]
I just bought a S&W 442 Lightweight .38 recently, love it. Shot some Buffalo Bore 158 gr wadcutter +p out of it and if it hurts an attacker near as bad as it hurt my hand I should be in good shape. Great gun. What model is yours? any ammo suggestions?
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
Well I just tested it out now, can’t say I noticed any halos. Maybe a different story some other time though, or at night with street lights, etc.[/quote]
To PB Andy,
When are you starting the Academy?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Just about to end week 3 actually. In fact we had our first official range day today… was nice not to be in a classroom setting or doing push-ups in the hallway, lol.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
Well I just tested it out now, can’t say I noticed any halos. Maybe a different story some other time though, or at night with street lights, etc.[/quote]
I haven’t noticed halos on any of the tritium sights I own/have owned/have used. Of course I don’t get halos/“lens flare” effects normally.
What I have experienced is the rear lamps, by virtue of being closer and more numerous, over powering the front and tending to shift my focus to the rear of the slide. This is a common enough/known issue and there are several common work arounds.
The Warren Tactical sights on my Glock use a yellow rear that is physically smaller than the lamp on the front sight. This works fantastic as the front sight pulls the attention naturally. The rear appears both smaller AND dimmer.
Different color rears to fronts-Green is the brightest, to our eyes, color for the tritium lamps. So a green front is paired with yellow or orang rears (which are dimmer). The effect is a bright green dot between two larger (closer to the eye) but dimmer dots. Meprolight, Trijicon, and Ameriglo all offer these set ups. To my knowledge they are not available in any of the factory/standard night sight options.
Home maid work around- Use a black or red dry erase sharpie marker to “dot” the lamps on the rear sight. This effectively “dims” the rears and can help shift focus to the front sight in low light conditions. Black just sort of dims the lamp while red dims and changes the color some. This is not a permanent alteration and I would absolutely do it if I was using issued gear.
Personally, I don’t like dots on the rear sight for daytime use so I am not as big a fan of standard Trijicon or Meprolights, though the Trijicon HD sights are awesome. I tend to like a plain rear, a dot or high visibility fron (Ameriglo CAP, HACK/I-Dot, Trij HD, or just paint) with tritium of different colors front and rear. I really like it when I have about half the thickness of the front sight in “empty”/light bar on each side of the front. This translates into fairly wide rear sight notches.
To PB Andy,
When are you starting the Academy?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Robert,
Excellent points on the “night” sights. From personal experience: Always, Always,have the front sight brighter than the rear, because, looking at a lethal attacker, focusing on the front sight, and dealing with “tunnel vision” is enough stress without trying to line up the rear sights. If I could get Williams peep sights installed on my handgun, I would. I have ghost rings on my M-4,AK,Tactical 12 gauge and Galil. Aim points, Eco-tech, etc…are good (I have them installed on my “work rifle”) especially for novice shooters, but, (FOR ME) on housing clearing or house to house fighting, nothing is as fast on target as a ghost ring.
I haven’t read this entire thread, but, after seeing many a Glock put through hell by Middle East tactical units, you cannot go wrong buying one.
My personal carry gun in the states is a Wilson Combat Elite(45ACP)
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
I have tritium sights on all of my handguns, and have never had any issues with halos or any distortions from them.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
I have tritiums on all of my handguns, no issues with haloing or any other distortion.
[quote]idaho wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Picked up a Glock 19 Gen 4 today. Got a badass Safariland 6360 holster and some other goodies as well.[/quote]
Excellent choice.
Did you get the factory night sights?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
I got some Trijicon night sights. They look awesome. [/quote]
I really need to pick up some night sights for mine. Do you notice any halo effect when trying to acquire the target in very low light?[/quote]
Well I just tested it out now, can’t say I noticed any halos. Maybe a different story some other time though, or at night with street lights, etc.[/quote]
I haven’t noticed halos on any of the tritium sights I own/have owned/have used. Of course I don’t get halos/“lens flare” effects normally.
What I have experienced is the rear lamps, by virtue of being closer and more numerous, over powering the front and tending to shift my focus to the rear of the slide. This is a common enough/known issue and there are several common work arounds.
The Warren Tactical sights on my Glock use a yellow rear that is physically smaller than the lamp on the front sight. This works fantastic as the front sight pulls the attention naturally. The rear appears both smaller AND dimmer.
Different color rears to fronts-Green is the brightest, to our eyes, color for the tritium lamps. So a green front is paired with yellow or orang rears (which are dimmer). The effect is a bright green dot between two larger (closer to the eye) but dimmer dots. Meprolight, Trijicon, and Ameriglo all offer these set ups. To my knowledge they are not available in any of the factory/standard night sight options.
Home maid work around- Use a black or red dry erase sharpie marker to “dot” the lamps on the rear sight. This effectively “dims” the rears and can help shift focus to the front sight in low light conditions. Black just sort of dims the lamp while red dims and changes the color some. This is not a permanent alteration and I would absolutely do it if I was using issued gear.
Personally, I don’t like dots on the rear sight for daytime use so I am not as big a fan of standard Trijicon or Meprolights, though the Trijicon HD sights are awesome. I tend to like a plain rear, a dot or high visibility fron (Ameriglo CAP, HACK/I-Dot, Trij HD, or just paint) with tritium of different colors front and rear. I really like it when I have about half the thickness of the front sight in “empty”/light bar on each side of the front. This translates into fairly wide rear sight notches.
To PB Andy,
When are you starting the Academy?
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Robert,
Excellent points on the “night” sights. From personal experience: Always, Always,have the front sight brighter than the rear, because, looking at a lethal attacker, focusing on the front sight, and dealing with “tunnel vision” is enough stress without trying to line up the rear sights. If I could get Williams peep sights installed on my handgun, I would. I have ghost rings on my M-4,AK,Tactical 12 gauge and Galil. Aim points, Eco-tech, etc…are good (I have them installed on my “work rifle”) especially for novice shooters, but, (FOR ME) on housing clearing or house to house fighting, nothing is as fast on target as a ghost ring.
I haven’t read this entire thread, but, after seeing many a Glock put through hell by Middle East tactical units, you cannot go wrong buying one.
My personal carry gun in the states is a Wilson Combat Elite(45ACP)
[/quote]
I love the Eo-techs. Those things are tanks but they come with a tank price tag. Have one on a hunting shotgun. I may have to try some of the night sights. So its Trijicon HD and Warren Tactical, any others that I should look at?
[quote]dk44 wrote:
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
I carry a S&W snub nose .38 every day. Easy to conceal. Reliable. Plenty powerful to get a beotch up out of my business. I have a Glock 23 .40 at home beside my bed. It leaves the house with me every now and then but it’s real job is to buy me time to get to my bedroom closet where my shotguns are located. I don’t like anything with a safety because that is one additional step to remember in a split second of amped up time.
[/quote]
I just bought a S&W 442 Lightweight .38 recently, love it. Shot some Buffalo Bore 158 gr wadcutter +p out of it and if it hurts an attacker near as bad as it hurt my hand I should be in good shape. Great gun. What model is yours? any ammo suggestions?[/quote]
Mine is an old mod 60 stainless with wood grips. Not too sexy but it will get the job done. I am not too particular on ammo. I just try to stay with a 140 grain. The only actual live action it has seen is a couple of run-ins with copper heads. I have a small horse farm in Alabama and keep snake load on hand. I like the .38 because I can carry it in my pocket. There are only about 3 months out of the year down here when you can wear a jacket to keep a holster covered up.