Where To After V-Diet?

Apples are great portable snacks!!! But do me a favor and make sure that every time you have a serving of fruit, it’s a different fruit! Variety is extremely important. It’s probably the single biggest lifestyle change you could make for long-term health, energy, brain chemistry and hormonal balance.

Go for color, too! I eat blueberries, blackberries, raspberries. I eat star fruit (carambola), mango, lychee, oranges, kumquats, apples, tangerines, grapes, watermelon. See how many different fruit you can eat before repeating one.

Re the fat in the eggs, you’re right! Even though I tend to prefer eating whole eggs over egg whites, I add fruit to my P+C meals, not my P+F meals. So it you’re eating a P+C meal, you should make an egg white omelet with veggies and have that piece of fruit. If you’re eating whole eggs at a P+F meal, you shouldn’t be eating fruit.

I thought apples are higher glycemic simpler sugars.

Don’t worry about the fruit from sugar. Fruit tends to be higher in fructose, a sugar that doesn’t spike insulin. Just don’t go over the 100 calories you’re allowing yourself per serving. I measure all my fruit in ounces (tenths of an ounce, actually) using a digital scale that I got at Staples in the postal scale areas.

Excellent job on adjusting your numbers and cutting the brown rice!!! You have a talent for this, Ranger!!!

Tampa-Terry, thanks for the many insight that you’ve provided in this (and other) threads.

I am nearing the end of my Velocity Diet and I am not quite as thin as I’d like yet. So I’d like to continue to cut while I transition off of the Velocity Diet. Since I’m coming off of a 1700 cal diet, I’d like to shoot for 2000 cal as I transition off. The following is my first try for a plan. Can you give me some critiques?

Meal 1 (7:00): P+F
3-egg omelet
1 slice of turkey
30 grams of part skim mozzarella cheese
6 ounces of green pepper
Cal: 406, Carb: 11.5, Prot: 37.6, Fat: 22.6, Fiber: 3.4

Meal 2 (10:00): P+C
2 servings of Metabolic Drive
1 container of light yogurt
Cal: 310, Carb: 26, Prot: 48, Fat: 3, Fiber: 2

Meal 3 (11:30): Peri-Workout
1 serving of Surge!
Cal: 340, Carb: 45, Prot: 25, Fat: 2.5, Fiber: 0

Meal 4 (14:00): P+C+F (???)
6 ounces of chicken breast
6 ounces of broccoli
6 ounces of spinach
1/2 avocado
Cal: 425, Carb: 21, Prot: 57, Fat: 14.5, Fiber: 12

Meal 5 (18:00): P+F
6 ounces of top sirloin
6 ounces of zucchini
Cal: 369, Carb: 5, Prot: 36, Fat: 22, Fiber: 1.7

Meal 6 (21:00): P+C
2 servings of Metabolic Drive
Cal: 200, Carb: 8, Prot: 40, Fat: 3, Fiber: 2

Day total:
Cal: 2050, Carb: 116, Prot: 243.7, Fat: 67.8, Fiber: 21

Percentage of calorie:
Carb: 22.7%, Prot: 47.5%, Fat: 29.8%

The problem with this plan is that I’m not sure what to have for my PWO. I’d like to have an avocado with my chicken salad, but that tilts the meal more towards P+F instead of P+C. I think ideally, my PWO meal would be a P+C with some starchy carbs, right? However, I think I’ll need the fiber and don’t want to add too much carbs to my diet at this point.

Should I flip-flop Meal 2 and Meal 4, as Meal 2 has more sugar-like carb from yogurt while Meal 4 has carb mainly from vegetables?

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!

Alrighty I did a little over a week with the higher carb intake and my body maintained weight almost lost a little so I think around 3000 this next week should hold my weight at maintenance.

I also turned my training schedule upside down. I do my weight training in the morning so I Can get all the simple carbs out of the way earlier in the day, and just P+F meals later in the day. Here are the new macros at 3000 calories. Let me know if I should tweak them at all? This is on a workout day so chocolate milk in the morning.

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 2988
Fat: 97 872 31%
Sat: 29 265 9%
Poly: 19 170 6%
Mono: 26 230 8%
Carbs: 257 856 30%
Fiber:43 0 0%
Protein:281 1123 39%

Thanks for all the help thus far.

Ranger, what you are doing with your diet is a perfect example of “Outcome Based Decision Making.” Very nicely done!!! You’re learning a lot about your body and what it requires and what it can handle and what it takes to get the results you want.

Good news on changing your workout around the way you did. If ever you have to work out later in the day, just make sure you trade the P+F meal following your workout with a P+C meal earlier in the day so that you get PWO nutrition.

jthsiao, I’m going to start a new thread and post my reply on it if that’s all right with you.

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jthsiao, I’m going to start a new thread and post my reply on it if that’s all right with you.
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Sure thing, thanks! I appreciate all your input in this thread and others. I’ve been reading up on a lot of your suggestions and hope to incorporate them into my diet. Thanks for all your help!

Checking in with an update. Here are where the calories stand now, I am going to try this for a week and see what it does for me. Basically the same foods, just slightly larger portions.

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 3277
Fat: 97 873 29%
Sat: 30 274 9%
Poly: 21 188 6%
Mono: 28 248 8%
Carbs: 321 1084 36%
Fiber 50 0 0%
Protein:272 1088 36%

How do the calories look? And the macros? Is the carb intake looking okay?

[quote]R-Banger wrote:
Checking in with an update.
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Apart from an updating your diet, what about your lifts? How are your workouts? How’s your weight? I believe you are trying to maintain, right? What other health updates?

I think a bigger picture of where you’re at would be interesting for those of us following your post-diet transition.

Thanks!

Well my weight is staying, I am trying to clean bulk so I want to slowly work my way up to 195 with as little fat gain as possible, before I do one more shot on the V-diet. My lifts are on the climb, I am trying to work with oly lifts, and compound movements. Pullups are getting much easier.

People are still noticing changes in my physique so I am on the right road. Hope this helps. The injury still kind of limits me until it is fully healed but that is okay, I still get some good workouts in.

Great job, Ranger!!! Your body composition post-Velocity Diet is continuing to improve. By the time you get ready to do the Velocity Diet again, you should have a bit more muscle and a bit less fat.

You’re going to be in great shape for the summer! (grin)

Thank you for the motivation. I did have 4 days of just eating whatever. I didn’t plan on it, but I have been pulling 17-18 hour days of straight work and school. I have had some tough times this last week, so I fell off cause of lack of time. That’s life, but I am back on track. I don’t see much negative, maybe I gain a couple pounds no big deal, sometimes life gets in the way. Can’t wait to get back on the V-diet again, the simplicity of eating 4 times a day really helps even when life gets the better of you.

You’re really doing it up right … and under very challenging circumstances!!!

Hey guys I am dropping in for an update. Now my weight is at 192. I fell off for a couple weeks, and it looks like it was just what my body needed. I must have really gotten them working hard. Cause I haven’t noticed any fat gains, and my lifts jumped up bigtime. 40 lbs on my incline press. Can’t complain their.

Now I wanted to see if I would be good start my second round on the V-diet. It has been two months since my last go, but my metabolism is well back up, and faster than ever before from bulking. This would get me in good shape by mid june. Then I can devote the summer to clean bulking. Would that be okay?

Wow!!! Yes, go for it, Ranger!! Your body is primed. You should hit a whole new level of leanness at the end of this round. (grin)

Send me a PM if you ever post before and after pics or pics from your last post-Velocity diet and how you end up looking at the end of this round.

I’m loving the improvements in your lifts. It definitely sounds you’ve optimized your nutrition for fat loss and LBM gains. I’m really proud of you!!!

Thanks a lot Tampa Terry! Your help has aided me so much. My body is finally taking shape the way I want it to. I will get some pics up as soon as I am done.

Hey ranger,

Update!!!

Okay guys I am back! Starting the final week of V-diet round two. I weighed myself after the two week mark and was at 179. I will weigh up at the end of this final week, I am hoping 175ish. Starting to get pretty lean so I know it will get hard to lose the fat now.

My body has transformed a fair bit, never looked this good before, the pics will speak for themselves. Now again I don’t know what I should do from this point on. I want to get leaner I would put my bf% around 14%, 13% at the lowest. My etching on my abs is starting to show. I have abs for the first time in my life!!! (First thing in the morning, and I gotta stretch the fat a little HAHAHAHAHA!!! But motivating none the less)

My body has its last reserves of fat left, I wanna get rid of it, I want to be lean to atleast 9%bf I need single digits. I am still too soft to the touch in certain areas, primarily on the love handle area. HAHAHAHAHA!! On a good note I bought my first ever size 30 pants.

In short things are going very well, and I wanna get the final few strongholds of fat off my body. I know that I will have to bring my metabolism back to life again, after the V-diet, it cripples your metabolism so I don’t think I will be able to keep cutting.

What routes do you guys recommend, I would really like to get fairly shredded, and then start a continuous clean bulk straight on through to christmas, and if I gain some pudge drop cals for a few weeks to stay at the same leanness. I am living the healthy lifestyle I have always wanted to live, and now want to look it year round.

Congrats on your results!!! (big grin)

Where to go? (grin #2) Same answer as the first time around. Recalculate your numbers based on your new body weight and maintain your new weight for one month. At that point there isn’t any reason you couldn’t do the Round 3 of the Velocity Diet Round if you wanted to.

Things are really sounding good, Ranger!!! Just in time for hitting the beach, too!!!

Awesome news!

I have similiar stats as you so as I was going through the v-diet I compared my results to yours ( I started 212 down to 193 before finishing ).

I can’t wait to try the v-diet again and really hit the 170s (I’m a size 34 right now).

But you are right about revamping the metabolism (as I am doing right now).

I’m afraid to weigh myself because I don’t watn to kno since I’ve been eating solid food=P

Keep updating!

[quote]ex0dust wrote:
Awesome news!

I have similiar stats as you so as I was going through the v-diet I compared my results to yours ( I started 212 down to 193 before finishing ).

I can’t wait to try the v-diet again and really hit the 170s (I’m a size 34 right now).

But you are right about revamping the metabolism (as I am doing right now).

I’m afraid to weigh myself because I don’t watn to kno since I’ve been eating solid food=P

Keep updating![/quote]

Thanks and I will do. Don’t be hesitant to step on the scale, it is good to know once a week where you are at. I gained like 1.5-2 pounds back on the first couple weeks, which were probably water weight cause my body needed to replenish it’s glycogen stores.

Then I clean bulked from 187 to 192 over the course of 6 weeks or so. Then I hit it again, I just feel that there is no point to clean bulking unless you are close to where you want to be. I would rather purge all the fat, and go from there.

Don’t let the numbers get to you, I chased numbers all my life, and you will usually be disappointed. I just went with what I saw in the mirror, and how my clothes fit. I was making sure that the pants would not tighten. I wanted to stay at 33-34ish while I bulked, and I did, this then allowed me to drop to a tight 30-loose 31, hopefully after round 3 30 will fit nicely.

I atleast have a fair amount of muscle hidden under the fat, good genetics. So I don’t have to worry about looking like a stick or something. Just been fat for 20 years, and that was long enough, time for a change. Here come 80 years of lean good health.

So this next time then, just gonna reset the metabolism and maintain instead of clean bulking for one month, and then round 3. That should push me into the single digits I hope. Then a nice 9 month clean bulk, and once a year I will just purge any little fat gains for health’s sake, either with a V-diet round or Berardi’s Get Shredded diet right before summer.

Hopefully this works out. I can’t believe I have actually finally found what works for my body. Feels great!