Where the Hell Did My DL Go?

Hey guys

Just thought I would give an update…

Did deadlifts today and in my last set did 5 x 162.5kg and a joker set of 170kg x 3

I decided to redo week 2 again with slightly lower weights than last week.

Not at my best, but at least it was better than last weeks fiasco!

Main problem I had this week was that all of my sets were without a belt…I felt really strong and my form was great

However I then used a belt for the 162.5kg and 170kg sets and instantly it left my back position much poorer. As a result these last sets felt much harder for some reason.

I took the belt off and tried another single @ 170kg without the belt and it absolutely flew up.

Anyone have similar problems?

I find that the belt really helps my squats but really hinders my deadlift form and ability to keep good form.

B.

This is a total guess but maybe the belt is poking you in the ribs or hips when in your starting position so unknowlingly you are changing postions and getting into a less than optimal starting position? I say this because when I belt up and have my chest up the belt is slightly uncomfortable but if I round over a tad the belt feels better, but I’m not in the best position.

Turn it around with the buckle/lever in the back - have someone help you buckle it.

Cheers Phil Rich, Strengthdawg and Rave2.0!

Going to experiment with the belt over the next few workouts and video my lifts so i can properly analyse if my form is changing due to the belt.

In my opinion, a 1RM and a PR are not the same. While your all time PR might be 205, a 1RM is the maximum weight you can lift in any given workout. You probably peaked well for your competition and hit a PR, but it probably isn’t realistic to call it your training 1RM if you can’t hit it every time. I was in the same boat as you a couple of months ago, i.e. only my deadlift regressed. Then, out of nowhere, one day I hit a new PR. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Just think of it as 1 step back to take 2 forward.

[quote]Bingobob wrote:
Hey guys

Just thought I would give an update…

Did deadlifts today and in my last set did 5 x 162.5kg and a joker set of 170kg x 3

I decided to redo week 2 again with slightly lower weights than last week.

Not at my best, but at least it was better than last weeks fiasco!

Main problem I had this week was that all of my sets were without a belt…I felt really strong and my form was great

However I then used a belt for the 162.5kg and 170kg sets and instantly it left my back position much poorer. As a result these last sets felt much harder for some reason.

I took the belt off and tried another single @ 170kg without the belt and it absolutely flew up.

Anyone have similar problems?

I find that the belt really helps my squats but really hinders my deadlift form and ability to keep good form.

B.[/quote]

What is your ab and low back strength? How many straight leg raises are you able to do with no swing?
Back raises should be done too.

Might as well get stronger in the body. Makes a big difference.

[quote]Jim Wendler wrote:

What is your ab and low back strength? How many straight leg raises are you able to do with no swing?
Back raises should be done too.

Might as well get stronger in the body. Makes a big difference. [/quote]

Jim
Is the hungarian core blaster a good alternative for back raises?
Homegym without bench.

Hi Jim

Thanks for the reply.

My back strength is “ok” but could definitely do with improvement!

In actual fact it was one of the areas i had set goals to strengthen in 2014.

When you say back raises, do you mean back raises on a back extension bench, or can this be done in a variation on a floor also?

For abs, i was going to use hanging leg raises and weighted sit ups. These look ok? or do i need to add others?

Thanks
B

[quote]Bingobob wrote:
Hi Jim

Thanks for the reply.

My back strength is “ok” but could definitely do with improvement!

In actual fact it was one of the areas i had set goals to strengthen in 2014.

When you say back raises, do you mean back raises on a back extension bench, or can this be done in a variation on a floor also?

For abs, i was going to use hanging leg raises and weighted sit ups. These look ok? or do i need to add others?

Thanks
B[/quote]

When I do weighted sit-ups I hold the weight behind my head, not at my chest. Makes a HUGE difference in difficulty. It eliminates momentum and you actually have to use your abs to lift your torso.

This is pretty normal. Often I have a bad deadlift day. I just stop and don’t do any extra sets when that happens and then usually the next week is better. It happens about one out of every 3 workouts. But overall my deadlift is still moving up. Other stuff is consistently good every single week. Especially overhead press and bench.

Hey Guys,

The exact same thing happened to me AGAIN this week regarding my deadlifts!!!

My Bench and Squat have been brilliant for last few weeks with rep PRs in both.

I havent tried any 1RMs in ages and dont want to until competitions, but I know that Im definitely improving and consistently getting stronger week on week.

I have felt strong as hell in the gym.

My Nutrition, sleep and hydration have been brilliant also for last few weeks and Im not dieting or anything like that.

Im getting ample carbs etc.

Im not injured and have no aches or pains

I went out to do a deadlift workout tonight feeling great…and it was a disaster.

Even the warm up sets seemed EXTREMELY heavy.

Thing is, I felt strong and confident going into the workout…however as soon as I started deadlifting tonight it was as if I had no power or strength at all.

So I decided to stop deadlifting and attempted some squats to see if I was maybe fatigued and the squats flew up easily.

I didnt go much higher than 80% but the squats felt fast and powerful.

Im beginning to get very concerned about this.

Im dreading this type of dramatic power loss in deadlift occuring in a competition!!!

I appreciate all the responses to date in this thread, but based on this reoccurring again does anyone have any other suggestions or feedback?

What do you think Jim?

Bingobob