Where Do Liberals Go?

In a recent AP story it was noted that "the Canadian immigration Web site had 115,000 hits the day after the election-from the U.S. alone.

The following is the complete story:

Nov. 5, 2004. 01:00 AM

`We’re moving. Canada is looking pretty good right now’

ALEXANDER PANETTA
CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA?Canada’s immigration website is being flooded with a record-smashing number of visits from Americans dismayed by the prospect of four more years living under President George W. Bush.

His re-election has some long-faced U.S. liberals apparently musing that perhaps Canada’s cold winters, high taxes and strained health system are more easily endured than their commander-in-chief.

A new record was set within hours of Bush’s acceptance speech when six times more Americans than usual surfed the site Wednesday.

The overall number of 179,000 visitors was almost twice the previous one-day record set last year. And 64 per cent of the visitors ? 115,016 ? were from the United States.

Many were doing more than just casual surfing, a spokesperson for Citizenship and Immigration suggested.

“The most-visited pages … were the skilled worker online self-assessment pages (to check if) they’d meet the selection criteria,” said Maria Iadinardi.

"Applying and intent are two different things, she said. “We’re only going to see this about six months from now.”

Americans moving to Canada must deal with the same rules as other immigrants ? including the $500 application fee, the $975 landing tax, and the six- to 12-month wait.

The waiting time is shorter if you’re married to a Canadian, for which help is available at http://www.marryanamerican.ca, a Canadian satirical site also being inundated by visitors.

A Google search under the terms, “move to Canada + Bush” turns up more than 8,000 Web pages ? including chat groups and at least one opinion poll asking frustrated liberals whether they’d consider fleeing.

About 60 per cent replied `Yes’ to leaving in the tongue-in-cheek poll of more than 1,000 on CBS’s Chicago affiliate website.

One American who lives in Brooklyn says many people in the U.S. now feel they identify more with Canada than their own country.

“I’m not alone,” said Chris Walsh, a native of New Hampshire married to a Canadian. “The first thing people said to me when I went to walk my dog in the park this morning was: `We’re moving to Canada.’ People are very disillusioned, and Canada is looking pretty good right now.”

A mock map of North America circulated on the Internet illustrated an expanded Canada. The lingering rump of pro-Democrat states ? namely the Great Lakes area, and the East and West coasts ? would be carved into a larger new country called the United States of Canada. The rest of the continent was left alone in a new entity named, “Jesusland.”

A gleeful Republican posted this response to suggestions of an exodus: “Enjoy the Molson’s while you wait an eternity for an imported doctor making the equivalent of minimum wage.”

Another said: “They can pay high taxes for non-existent health care, non-existent military, and non-existent jobs. So go already. Be the first in line!”

Prime Minister Paul Martin tossed his arms wide open yesterday to aspiring immigrants from the United States. But he joked they shouldn’t expect preferential treatment just because they’re neighbours.

Reasons for liberals to move to Canada:

  1. Canada Has universal public health care. (That means you don’t have to wait for Hillary (barf) to get elected President before you get all the government freebies!)

  2. Canada has no troops in Iraq. (Oh boy…no more whining about this “senseless war.”)

  3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty. (Well this will surely save the environment, what a thoughtful government.)

  4. More than half of Canada’s provinces allow same-sex marriage. (There you go! Half the country is sort of like Vermont, how appealing.)

  5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana. (Pot heads for free choice!)

  6. Canada has strict gun laws. (Come on it doesn’t get any better than this.)

  7. None other than the Untited Nations has ranked Canada as the very best country to live in for eight straight years! (Well if the UN said it, then it must be true…it’s not like they would ever have anything to do with corruption…naw.)

All kidding aside. I would like to hear from other T-Nation members. What are your thoughts on those who are thinking of chucking it all for a life in Canada?

Heh, I can’t imagine anyone would really be moving to Canada over this. I guess you could simply work here for a while, but what would that solve?

Besides, we only want you if you are rich and ready to spend… :wink:

[quote]vroom wrote:
Heh, I can’t imagine anyone would really be moving to Canada over this. I guess you could simply work here for a while, but what would that solve?

Besides, we only want you if you are rich and ready to spend… ;)[/quote]

I am sure Canada would lock down their border. Then they will have a flood of illegal Americans. But that would open up jobs here for the Mexicans. Everybody wins.
:^P

How about a trade?

I will trade my Canadian citizenship straight across for an American citizenship.

Now there’s a novel idea hey?

[quote]JPBear wrote:
How about a trade?

I will trade my Canadian citizenship straight across for an American citizenship.

Now there’s a novel idea hey? [/quote]

Hey? HEY?!!

I thought it was Ay.

“Jesusland”… quite funny. I understand their dislike of Bush but move to Canada because of it? that’s kind of silly. I don’t believe these people would have been effected that much on the individual level had kerry been elected over bush. They’ve been whining so much about how we’re wronging the world… how is leaving going to help anything?

[quote]JPBear wrote:
How about a trade?

I will trade my Canadian citizenship straight across for an American citizenship.

Now there’s a novel idea hey? [/quote]

No trade necessary! We’ll take you as you are right now. Welcome. Try Florida, it’s a cool state. I’ve lived here almost my entire life. Not much in the way of snow, however. You might get homesick… :slight_smile:

JPbear,

Thank you for the powerful compliment.

Any American who moves to Canada due to an election is a weiner.

Kind of like RSU accepting the challenge, AND THEN NEVER SHOWING UP!!!

Go Kerry!!!

On Kerry!!!

JeffR

I must admit that I have fantasized about moving to Vancouver, BC, where I could live in a highly cultured, thriving metropolis just a half an hour from the best hiking, backpacking, and mountian biking in the world.

But reality is that my children were born here and this is where I will raise them. Here is what I intend to realistically do. In about 4-6 more years I will run for public office and be a part of the process itself. I will inject myself into the system to fight tooth and nail to keep this system from becoming any more corrupt. Maybe congress, city director, mayor, governor. Don’t know yet. I only know that I intend to do it, and that was galvanized by Bush’s victory. I’m not fleeing. I will just make enough money to be able to travel as much as I like and stay here to keep my country from being turned into a theocracy. I live in the notch of the bible belt so I do have a challenge ahead of me, but I trust that people will be ready for a change after 4 years of a republican congress/presidency/judicial system.

BTW, I used to consider myself a republican, but Bush and crew tainted that. They’re not real repubs. Don’t know if I could do the whole Democrat thing either. I like most of the views of the Libertarians, but I have met a lot of Libs and I don’t think that I am anything like them. Every party is so different in practice than they are on paper. Shit… I NEED A PARTY!

[quote]Roy Batty wrote:
Shit… I NEED A PARTY![/quote]

Ok,ok. I?ll bring the beer. How about next Saturday?

[quote]The Mage wrote:
Roy Batty wrote:
Shit… I NEED A PARTY!

Ok,ok. I?ll bring the beer. How about next Saturday?[/quote]

Sure, if I have recovered from all the parties this week by then. A little hung over today from all the festivities surrounding the Clinton Library. Got to see 4 presidents speak live yesterday morning. That was pretty cool. Cold and wet though.

BTW, I am cutting so bring red wine. :wink:

Roy,

I applaud you for your plans to enter public life.

If you join the Democrats, I’ll whip you in the general election. If you join the Libs. I won’t have to campaign against you. If you join the Republicans, I’ll beat you in the primaries.

In all seriousness, good luck with your plans.

JeffR

[quote]Roy Batty wrote:
The Mage wrote:
Roy Batty wrote:
Shit… I NEED A PARTY!

Ok,ok. I?ll bring the beer. How about next Saturday?

Sure, if I have recovered from all the parties this week by then. A little hung over today from all the festivities surrounding the Clinton Library. Got to see 4 presidents speak live yesterday morning. That was pretty cool. Cold and wet though.

BTW, I am cutting so bring red wine. ;)[/quote]

Roy:

You tick me off! You got to go to the Clinton library affair? How’d you manage that one ole buddy?

I saw the event on television and wished that I could have attended (even in the rain). If only to hear Bono…No seriously, where else would you ever get to hear three former Presidents, and our current President at the same event? President Ford would also have been there, but was ill, they said.

What was the general mood at the event, obviously upbeat, but what other light can you shed?

It was great… They all gave excellent speeches. I watched Clinton speak at a Chamber of Commerce luncheon on Tuesday, and last night I went to a shin-dig at a place called Cajun’s Wharf where all the Library staff and members of the media celebrated. Free booze can be a dangerous thing! It was an all week long street party in Little Rock, with lots of movie stars and foreign dignitaries hanging out in all the restaurants and clubs.

The rain was coming down in buckets, and it was cold, but I stayed for the whole event. Bono was fucking cool! One of my favorite performances all morning was a group of kids from Chile (or was it Guatamala?)… They were all younger than my own kids (ages 4-6), playing instruments and singing and dancing… They were so cute! Despite the gloomy weather, the mood was very upbeat, and all the presidents had great things to say about each other. Wish y’all coulda come down. We woulda had a blast!

Roy:

I watched the televised part of the event with my 80 year old father who is a life long democrat…you read that right. Hey where did I come from? Ha.

My Dad loved that event, he said: “No matter how long I live I will always be impressed with the way that this country comes together in the end (after an election). You don’t see this sort of bipartisanship anywhere but in America.”

I have no idea if this is true, but it was a nice sentiment none the less.

Sounds like you had a great time, wish I was there.

Anyone catch sour-ass Hillary?

I didn’t see her make eye contact with W., once. He was sitting next to Chelsea.

2008 will be fun!!!

JeffR