The juvenile detention centers around here are a joke. Pretty much like the other person stated they go in and meet with all of their buddies. We arrested a 13 year old kid the other day for breaking into cars it was somewhere honestly around his 15th offense for the same thing in a period of months.
He looked at the cop and said “yah you got me again, but I’ll go to juvy and be out in 24 hours, and you will arrest me again as soon as I get out cuz i’ll be back pig. They don’t do nothin to me”
Parents? From dealing with them…I think it’s a split between most of them are in jail or never around, some just dont care, and some of the parents are honestly scared of their children.
[quote]dennis3k wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
The police can arrest.
The courts can prosecute.
The corrections department can incarcerate.
Well its obvious you don’t live in Canada thanks to our lovely young offenders act kids literally get away with murder.
Don’t get me wrong I believe in giving everyone a chance but there comes a point where the line has to be drawn on the subject[/quote]
What? You can’t think of any cases of a child being tried as an adult?
And I just can’t understand people withyour attitude. Tell me, if our criminal justice system is so much worse than the US’s, why do we have less violent crime? I live in Toronto. Why don’t you compare the murder rate in Toronto to some American cities that are about the same size?
[quote]ssn0 wrote:
It’s thug life I mean shit, you grow up in the ghetto fuck dawg and someone step to you yo’ need to kill someone you dun’ know how it be. Fuck dawg. You see someone wearin’ red kill him!
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You’re an idiot.
I come from a middle to upper class neighborhood and this shit still happens.
[quote]sugarfree wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.
hmmm… that’s pretty good Irish.
I agree. Every generation thinks the previous generation is the last great one, their generation is where it’s all going to end, and the next is doomed.[/quote]
A lot people think that drug related offenses get more time in jail then violent offenses, and its true in some instances, but a lot of drug related offenses are commited by gang members. There really are not enough options. The corrections budget is the biggest eater of funding in MANY states. If we kept drug offenders in the community and forced them to go to counseling, then we could save a lot of denaro in the prison budget, and save cells for violent offenders. We could also legalize narcotics, or at least marijauna. Or maybe people will get addicted, overdose, and die, thus solving the problem. Unfortunately, the human body can handle drugs fairly well.
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Unfortuantely what you are describing here is a Europan welfare state…
Basically teh admission that you will spend money on poverty either by preventing it or by dealing with its consequences…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.
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Strange. I just watched Clockwork Orange last night, and the opening scene with the old wino getting stomped was very similar to some of the lamentations expressed at the start of this thread.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.
Strange. I just watched Clockwork Orange last night, and the opening scene with the old wino getting stomped was very similar to some of the lamentations expressed at the start of this thread.
That movie is timeless in its social commentary.
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Exactly.
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders… They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.”
- Plato
I think they should lock up the kids AND their parents in the same cell whenever the kid gets in trouble w/ the law. I’d bet the kids stop getting arrested and the parents start parenting.
[quote]TheSicilian wrote:
I think they should lock up the kids AND their parents in the same cell whenever the kid gets in trouble w/ the law. I’d bet the kids stop getting arrested and the parents start parenting.[/quote]
The parents are at fault sometimes, and sometimes they are not. Parents can do a stellar job of parenting, and yet their children are still shitheads. A lot of serial killers had good parents.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.
Strange. I just watched Clockwork Orange last night, and the opening scene with the old wino getting stomped was very similar to some of the lamentations expressed at the start of this thread.
That movie is timeless in its social commentary.
Exactly.
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders… They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers.”
- Plato[/quote]
Can’t get much older than Plato.
Just last month, after a long day of work, I caught myself wanting to kick the shit out some worthless street punk I was 10 years ago. Then I felt sad about how old and closed minded I was being.
I just finished a book written in 1975, a constant theme was the older people griping about the youth destroying their town. The oldest resident killed them all.
c.427 c.347 BC - world going to hell - Plato
1971 - world going to hell - A Clockwork Orange (if you read the book, the UK version, you would have found out the real ending)
1975 - satirical kids are going to kill us all - Stephen King’s Salems Lot
2006 - @#$! street punks, get a job, oh wait, I love that song, is that my t-shirt? dang I’m old - Sugarfree