Some are suggesting a dynasty…
First Beavis…then Butthead…then Ivanka…!
You aren’t a Rush fan, are you Mufasa?
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Nope!
So I’m afraid I COMPLETELY missed your reference!
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Your missing out Mufasa. Unfortunately, the drummer passed recently. Before that, I think you would have a tough time finding a band more competent at their instruments. I consider the bass player and drummer to be top 10 players of their instruments. The guitar is also very good, but does not stand out quite as much to me.
Lifeson does have some truly stellar work, but it’s not outstanding within the context of the group. Live he effortlessly burns through some amazing performances like he’s just hanging out with his buddies.
It’s kinda nuts.
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Agree Lifeson would likely be the standout player in almost any other band, but when you have Neil and Geddy as your band mates it is pretty damn tough to standout. He is good on both the 6 and 12 string, and plays classical sounding riffs really well.
As a music dude, I have a whole lotta respect for this. Lifeson has the skills to completely dominate a band, yet has always had the maturity to do what’s needed and what fits. That and his guitar tone gives me uncomfortable wood.
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I have identified the nerds in this thread.
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His and David Gilmours are iconic.
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Read somewhere that the US just crossed the 3M infected mark. In a country of about 350M that is less than 1% of the total population who is known infected. Is that considered a pandemic or just a really nasty bug? I don’t know.
I think it’s the death toll combined with other factors within our population like heart disease, diabetes, copd, and any number of imuno compromising conditions.
That hand full of vulnerabilities covers about 100 million people.
(Loving the music stuff, guys…but music discussion COMPLETELY derails a thread on “PWI”! Soooooo…)
I see what you are saying. But many of these “Warriors” talk like we are at some “peak” when in reality that may not be the case. In other words; as testing becomes more available and more and more are testing, cases will continue to go up. The question is how long?
IMO a more significant stat would be hospitalizations and Deaths (both of which they have tried to clean-up lately).
I agree with you. It definitely could still get worse before it gets better. It seems that definitions are fuzzy and mean whatever they want to whomever is holding the best/most decisive/most “useful”(however you want to see it) cards.
Hospitalizations and deaths clearly related to this new virus would be good information. In Florida a large number of the new cases have been in the 20-30 year old demographic with not many requiring significant care.
I am immunocompromised (Diabetes) so I am not taking any unnecessary chances as being on a ventilator sounds absolutely miserable.
So to answer the original question of the post (sorry to join in the derail). When will the pandemic become real? Real to basically everyone?
I have a prediction that if Trump loses in November, that it will never become real to whatever percent of the right is heavily into conspiracy theories. I think we will hear about it for at least a decade from right wing talking heads. I think this will be independent of how high the cases go, or how many deaths there are.
Not sure about everyone else. It is real for me, but I am pretty sure I get talked about at the gym for being one of the very few who wears a mask.
Outbreaks and epidemics are when lots of people one area or location are getting infected.
It’s a pandemic when multiple outbreaks are occuring all over the place.
You can debate the “seriousness” of covid by considering the infection rate or death rate or whatever you think is important. You can’t deny it’s a pandemic because it’s occuring everywhere.
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The virus is clearly working for the Democrats. It attacks Trump supporters, but not BLM or antifa.
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This…!
Yeah and our understanding of the long term implications could be years away. Just in the US we’re looking at deaths equivalent to 45 9/11’s, 3 times the number of deaths in Korea, and more than the number of American deaths in World War 1.
All with rising cases and no end in sight at all.
Ummmmmm…!
Maybe we should just ban large gatherings of White folks?
I work for a nursing home (I’m a cook), 10 residents where I work died. One employee was seriously ill, apparently lost a lot of weight (was already pretty skinny) and isn’t in good enough shape to come back to work. There is a virus, anyone claiming it’s a hoax is full of shit, the only thing to debate is how the situation should be handled.
I think masks are a good idea in places with a lot of infections, if only the WHO and various governments had recommended masks in March or April then maybe such drastic shutdown measures wouldn’t have been necessary. However, right now there are places in Canada that have few infections or none and now have decided to make masks mandatory, it seems totally pointless to me.
As for the debate on whether or not masks are effective, there have been studies showing that surgical masks are up to 80% at preventing flu infections. N95 masks are near 100% effective. People are also wearing cloth masks, how effective those are will vary depending on what they are made of but I would assume they are less effective than surgical masks.
Anecdotally, at my work when there was a COVID outbreak for several weeks there were no N95s available. Several of the nursing staff were infected with COVID, but mot were not, despite regularly being in close contact with infected residents - feeding, bathing, changing their clothes, etc. All the staff were tested multiple times as well. So surgical masks definitely do provide a degree of protection.
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