When Do You Need to Increase Nolvadex/Cabergoline Dosages?

This is the attitude I wish more competitors had, and it’s the right one to have… use what is nessecary, not more because you can

The yolotard (which to me this phrase means short sighted, in it for the now and nothing else matters etc) rhetoric specifically many younger competitors acquire from either

A- viewing extensive PED use from competitor and thinking “I need that if that’s what they’re doing”
B- trying various compounds, not experiencing extreme acute sides so continually increasing dosage until they need like 5 grams per week just to look decent and/or progress decently as their AR become SOooo downregulated

This is why we have so many younger competitors dropping in their 20s 30s, 40s etc

This is already a dangerous game, if you aren’t already already looking at serious competitive prospects (say after already having competed a few times) or perhaps haven’t even competed yet) there’s no fucking need to be on the equivalent of 2 g+ test/wk… it’s just irresponsible, reckless and will induce a vastly premature death. On 5g test equiv first comp, what’s you’re 10th Comp gonna look like lol

This doesn’t just pertain to anabolics, other supplementary compounds (insulin, beta 2 agonists etc.)

If you’re cutting for a show and start at 19%bf… you instantly pump in high doses of clen, T3, DNP, stims etc… not only is this dangerous, but where will you be when you reach 7%? What will you be using… the body will re attain homeostasis, metabolic state will re-shift… introduce things gradually, it’s a marathon, not a race

I recall this 18-19 y/o kid on here using like 250mgs of anadrol daily, 50ius of slin daily… his rhetoric was “but I want to compete”… like Jesus fucking Christ my dude

You have to take much more B6 than P5P (active form of B6) which is one reason P5P is safer and more effective than B6. Bulk Supplements brand has P5P powder for cheap and it’s effective.

How did you like that cycle? I’m planning something similar for my next one… Were you using caber/nolva proactively or did you have to?

What’s a typical dose of P5P on tren cycle? I’ve heard upwards of 300mgs ED…

@beachbum5133
I don’t know about when on Tren but 200mg P5P has been shown to effectively lower prolactin with results comparable to cabergoline. Those that divided the doses throughout the day had better results. The downside of P5P is the more frequent usage but the plus is less side effects than cabergoline. It’s definitely worth trying P5P before cabergoline on my opinion. I’ve read the forums with folks that have prolactinomas and many people have bad experiences with cabergoline. I would imagine there could be instances where you wouldn’t be able to discern whether it’s the Tren or the cabergoline causing the issue. Total speculation though

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