When are Side Chicks Ok

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
These threads are always kind of funny, and I find it even amusing that the guys in here refuse to take any responsibility for the reasons of a sexless marriage. As others have said, if you’re in a sexless marriage, chances are there are other problems involved and chances are very good that the husband and wife both play a significant role in those problems. But now it’s all the wife’s fault instead of looking at the underlying reasons for the lack of sex.

AC - your position about it not being a lie of omission because you don’t say anything might be technically sound on its face, but wouldn’t work in practice (at least in my marriage). My wife knows where I am at all times because that’s how close we are.

If I come home and she asks about my day or I tell her I have an after hours work function to go sleep with someone else, at some point in time a question will arise that she will find out what I’m up to unless I lie about it. I’m not sure how much communication is normal for a marriage as I only have 1, but I can’t imagine the NEVER lie about anything scenario lasting for very long in a marriage with at least half way decent communication.

Lastly, I really think I have a naturally low sex drive. I’ve never felt so sex crazed or addicted or like I needed it so bad I’d be willing to stray. Sometimes she’s in the mood, sometimes she’s not. Either way, I’ll be ok. [/quote]

Pretty much this except I have at least a normal if not a high sex drive. Sometimes sex doesn’t occur as often as I’d like, but that is just a natural part of marriage.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
No… There’s no such think as “lie of omission”. A “LIE” is when someone asks you something or you volunteer something that is not true. You cannot, by definition, “LIE” by not saying anything. [/quote]

That’s an interesting stance.

So, for example, if our friend here walked in his door at 10 o’clock and his wife says, “you’re home pretty late. Where were you?” and he say’s, “I went out with a friend,” (failing to mention the location was a hotel room and the friend was this girl he’s cheating on his wife with). You don’t see that as a lie by omission? What would you call it?
[/quote]Well if the follow up question is “which friend?” and you say, “Rick” (assuming you aren’t fucking Rick) then you have lied… This isn’t rocket science guys. A LIE is a LIE. An unspoken agreement to be discreet is just that. If a woman does not give her man sex, then she is, by HER ACTIONS, condoning him getting pussy elsewhere… How is this even debatable? [quote]

“Coming correct with the pussy” means the the WIFE meet’s the HUSBAND’S sexual needs.

And if our hero isn’t “coming correct with the cock”, then I’m sure his wife will help him get there. IF SHE’D FUCK HIM. WHICH SHE ISN’T…

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If a woman does not give her man sex, then she is, by HER ACTIONS, condoning him getting pussy elsewhere… How is this even debatable? [/quote]

Lol, I think you and I have different definitions of condoning, a different interpretation of the vows a husband and wife make, and a completely different understanding of the underlying reasons there may be no sex in a marriage. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Its more a emotional penalty on your kids. Im saying why make your kids move, get a new home, live a less better life, and get a new step dad all cuz Mommy is selfish. Get ass elswhere dont get caught everyone wins. Give her a altimatim say hey if you aint givin it up Im getting it elswhere if you catch me cool if not cool. How come the womans feelings always trump the mans?? All the sudden we dont count. [/quote]
Your family life together might be an even bigger emotional burden on your kids. It happens. There ARE cases where kids ended up better off if their parents separated.

Also, is any of this even real or are you just trolling? Your life seems insane. Are you a real person who apparently owns a business, does tons of drugs, and can’t spell “ultimatum”?

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Married 26 years.

I find this thread to be a good barometer of character. One reaps what he sows.

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Also, I feel if side chicks were ok there would never need to be a reason to omit the fact that you have a side chick. AKA, they are never ok. Omitting a fact may not technically be lying but it’s in the same spirit. If you feel so comfortable with your position that the wife owes the man sex regardless of the circumstances that lead to a sexless marriage, open and honest discussion with the wife shouldn’t be an issue.

The truth is that position is flawed from the get go.

All IMO, of course.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Well if the follow up question is “which friend?” and you say, “Rick” (assuming you aren’t fucking Rick) then you have lied… This isn’t rocket science guys. A LIE is a LIE. An unspoken agreement to be discreet is just that. If a woman does not give her man sex, then she is, by HER ACTIONS, condoning him getting pussy elsewhere… How is this even debatable? [/quote]

What if there’s no follow up question because his wife trusts him to be honest and faithful? He did promise to be after all.

Every marriage begins with a spoken agreement to be faithful. How many marriages have an “unspoken agreement to be discreet?” The idea to me is ludicrous. If you have a spoken agreement to be discrete/open, then fine. I’ve got no problem with that.

This is some crazy mental gymnastics here. If she isn’t having sex with her husband she is condoning he get it elsewhere, whut??

It’s debatable because there isn’t a exclusion clause in any marriage vows I’ve ever heard that says something along the line of, “If she isn’t coming with the pussy correct you are free to get pussy elsewhere.”

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“Coming correct with the pussy” means the the WIFE meet’s the HUSBAND’S sexual needs.

And if our hero isn’t “coming correct with the cock”, then I’m sure his wife will help him get there. IF SHE’D FUCK HIM. WHICH SHE ISN’T…[/quote]

If she isn’t, “Coming with the pussy correct,” he should be free to go elsewhere (in your opinion), but if he isn’t, “Coming correct with the cock,” it’s her job to help him get there? Why is it on her in both cases?

And what does, “the WIFE meet’s the HUSBAND’S sexual needs,” mean? So if I want to bang my wife in her ass and she says no am I free to cheat? She’s not meeting my needs. If my needs include sex twice a day seven days a week and she can’t keep up, am I free to cheat?

What if a husband only has enough stamina to go for two minutes twice a week, is the wife free to cheat?

In this particular situation my guess is his wife found out he has herpes or that he’s been cheating on her for years, which he’s detailed on here before.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
So if your wife or girlfriend isnt giving it up when is it ok to bang? I think if shes not giving it up for weeks or months you have all the rights to pound. Not giving your mate X is as bad as cheating IMO… You wouldnt keep a fridge full of food in the house and not let anyone eat then get mad when they go to Micky D’s… If you did you would just be stupid and unrealistic[/quote]

Said it before, please convert to Christianity. Or Islam. Or Hindi.

You’re not good for the Jews.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
So if your wife or girlfriend isnt giving it up when is it ok to bang? I think if shes not giving it up for weeks or months you have all the rights to pound. Not giving your mate X is as bad as cheating IMO… You wouldnt keep a fridge full of food in the house and not let anyone eat then get mad when they go to Micky D’s… If you did you would just be stupid and unrealistic[/quote]

Said it before, please convert to Christianity. Or Islam. Or Hindi.

You’re not good for the Jews.[/quote]

The agnostics don’t want him, either.

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Did you promise in your marriage vows to be faithful to one another?

If yes, then you shouldn’t cheat on your wife.

If no, then I guess you can.

And if you really are Jewish, as Jewbacca seems to suggest, then I’m not entirely sure how you can reconcile this thread with your religion.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If a woman does not give her man sex, then she is, by HER ACTIONS, condoning him getting pussy elsewhere… How is this even debatable? [/quote]

Lol, I think you and I have different definitions of condoning, a different interpretation of the vows a husband and wife make, and a completely different understanding of the underlying reasons there may be no sex in a marriage. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. [/quote]

This thread and the 20 other ones that mirror it, kind of depresses me. I’ll leave it at that.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If a woman does not give her man sex, then she is, by HER ACTIONS, condoning him getting pussy elsewhere… How is this even debatable?
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Ok, I cant let this one go. No one takes a vow regarding how much sex they get when they get married. If you added that one in then I guess you may have a point. And who’s to say that the reason she isn’t putting out is because of something lacking in her husband, IE he has the emotional maturity of 14yr old who thinks “Gotta get my dick wet bruh” supercedes all other marital issues.

Maybe that is the wife’s way of saying “I think you have some issues with sex, women, and possibly your mom that you are masking with sex that lacks intimacy, and running away from that maybe you need to get right before you can be a man worthy of respect.”

Or maybe she found a thread on T-Nation where you asked a bunch of random internet guys if you should tell your wife that you have herpes and HPV.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
This thread and the 20 other ones that mirror it, kind of depresses me. I’ll leave it at that. [/quote]
Same here.

Past a certain stage, but still long before marriage, I assume things are exclusive. Breaking that exclusiveness is “cheating” even without marriage. At the very least, it should involve some discussion of needs/desires before any action is taken. If you’re both ok with an open relationship, fine, but I wouldn’t assume it’s open just because. If one party is not getting what they want, it’s important to find a solution that’s acceptable by both partners.

But this seems to be a minority opinion.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:
But this seems to be a minority opinion.[/quote]

and a direct reflection of the moral decay of our country…

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

This thread and the 20 other ones that mirror it, kind of depresses me. I’ll leave it at that. [/quote]

The sad truth is something like 50% of people will be unfaithful in at least one long-term relationship throughout their life. From personal experience I honestly guess that number to be an underestimate. I’ve seen it happen so frequently from so many perspectives I would put the figure closer to 75-80%. Does it make for an optimal situation? No, but people are fanning the hate flames way too vigorously for something that it is a rather mundane occurrence. All because sex is inexplicably elevated to some strange spiritual level of significance

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75-80%, no way I buy that.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
75-80%, no way I buy that. [/quote]
Same.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
So if your wife or girlfriend isnt giving it up when is it ok to bang? I think if shes not giving it up for weeks or months you have all the rights to pound. Not giving your mate X is as bad as cheating IMO… You wouldnt keep a fridge full of food in the house and not let anyone eat then get mad when they go to Micky D’s… If you did you would just be stupid and unrealistic[/quote]

Said it before, please convert to Christianity. Or Islam. Or Hindi.

You’re not good for the Jews.[/quote]

Sorry, you dont get to do that.

Just image the Hindus dropped all Hinduheroes in your lap.

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2nd Google result.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2013/03/22/how-common-is-cheating-infidelity-really/

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You have been unfaithful to your wife and have picked up some STDs in the process.

I can’t imagine why she doesn’t want to have sex with you. Bitches be crazy.