What's Your Fav Cardio?

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
steinnes wrote:
You’d be better off taking some BCAA’s/Amino acids instead of whey it’s self, since it might blunt insulin, then there will be no point in doing fasted cardio.[/quote]

Thanks for the information, I’m expecting some BCAAs from Biotest soon, so I’ll just go completely fasted until I get them.

Also thanks for pointing out the thing about the measurements, even if I was aware not to freak out and do them daily, that’s an important point this thread should definitely include :slight_smile:

Yeah. The HITT is really tough to do low-carb. I usually do one semi carb-up day a week when doing strict low-carb dieting and do it then.

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Thats the way to go.
I actually love High Intensity cardio myself, but since I am on the AD, I can only do HITT on my carb up days.
I usually down two cups of black tea for a caffeine fix if I can’t get any HOT-ROX though.
jsbrook wrote:
For serious fatloss, I like to do high-intensity sessions. At least 1 but no more than 2 a week. My favorite is 400 meter repeats. And morning-mostly fasted-cardio to burn extra calories without stressing my body, impeding recovery, and burning up muscle. This would usually consist of BCAAS, HRX, and 1/2 scoop of protein powder followed by 45 minutes of incline treadmill walking.

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In my opinion, yes. Measure your love handles. Watch out for foods that are high in sodium too. The scale has gone down because you’re probably losing water weight, which is what happens to anyone who diets and/or eats a lower carbohydrate intake, in general.
Just make sure you’re eating enough protein every 3 hours so you’re not losing any muscle.

[quote]steinnes wrote:
This is all quite interesting, I’ll do the measurements out of curiosity, but since I’m not a complete beginner I’m not going to upset my whole plan based on anything like daily measurements :wink:

Anyway, this morning it was a fasted 4km walk to the office, with a stop at a nice grocery store where I can get my vegetables for the day!

This is something I’ll do every weekday at least, from now on.

I measured waist and biceps yesterday when I came home from the office (4 AM, so I wasn’t in the mood to measure everything…)

waist, 92cm (like the last month or so)
biceps, 31cm (left) / 32cm (right)

Unflexed of course.

Tonight I’ll measure the rest, and then week by week track the changes. I am a bit worried, since by the scale, I’ve gone down 1.5kg since last week, but my waist hasn’t.

By the way, I don’t measure my waist over my love handles, but above them – should I change that? I’m new to this whole measuring thing.

Thanks for your help guys, it’s really appreciated![/quote]

What’s my fave cardio?

For me personally, it’s the weights. Plenty high-intensity cardio going on there. Heck, I even get low-intensity cardio as I pace around between sets :slight_smile:

I’m glad I leave my ego at the door, every time I go here, because otherwise this would be difficult :wink:

Cthulu; Ok, love handles will be measured, IIRC it was around 98cm… I like the lower number better, but I can’t pussyfoot around anymore.

I’m really disheartened though that todays workout went completely to shit. I’m changing clothes in the locker room, and I feel some sting in my lower back, and I have lower back pains, which aren’t going anywhere. Today was supposed to be “leg day” of the 3-day-per-week shut up program. I did basically a bunch of squatting with the bar, a broomstick, etc, practiced my form, trying to warm up my back, but I was afraid to load it at all, I hope I’m better tomorrow, so I can get a proper leg day in there.

Anyway, at least I can continue with my fasted morning walks without worrying about my back.

“Worrying about my back”, I’m 23… I feel kinda young to be uttering these words… motherf***** desk job.

I’m pretty sure this is because yesterday when returning to the office after a light hour of tennis, as I was sitting down in the tram, and not holding on to anything, it suddenly lurched forward, causing me to crash into the seat, quite uncomfortably – I worried for a minute or two about my back, but I felt nothing, so I forgot about it, until my pains in the gym a couple of hours ago.

Guess I’ll try and ice it when I get home (still at the office).

Ouch! What does your back and leg routine look like? It’s probably because you don’t have the from down.
If your legs/back hurt by tomorrow, I’d advice you to do something else other than squats for that day only- or just rest and do a different body part. Maybe something like the leg press, ONLY if you didn’t get to work your legs like you should.

[quote]steinnes wrote:
I’m glad I leave my ego at the door, every time I go here, because otherwise this would be difficult :wink:

Cthulu; Ok, love handles will be measured, IIRC it was around 98cm… I like the lower number better, but I can’t pussyfoot around anymore.

I’m really disheartened though that todays workout went completely to shit. I’m changing clothes in the locker room, and I feel some sting in my lower back, and I have lower back pains, which aren’t going anywhere. Today was supposed to be “leg day” of the 3-day-per-week shut up program. I did basically a bunch of squatting with the bar, a broomstick, etc, practiced my form, trying to warm up my back, but I was afraid to load it at all, I hope I’m better tomorrow, so I can get a proper leg day in there.

Anyway, at least I can continue with my fasted morning walks without worrying about my back.

“Worrying about my back”, I’m 23… I feel kinda young to be uttering these words… motherf***** desk job.

I’m pretty sure this is because yesterday when returning to the office after a light hour of tennis, as I was sitting down in the tram, and not holding on to anything, it suddenly lurched forward, causing me to crash into the seat, quite uncomfortably – I worried for a minute or two about my back, but I felt nothing, so I forgot about it, until my pains in the gym a couple of hours ago.

Guess I’ll try and ice it when I get home (still at the office).[/quote]

[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Ouch! What does your back and leg routine look like? It’s probably because you don’t have the from down.
If your legs/back hurt by tomorrow, I’d advice you to do something else other than squats for that day only- or just rest and do a different body part. Maybe something like the leg press, ONLY if you didn’t get to work your legs like you should.
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Well, this day of the shut up program goes like this;
squats
deadlifts
front squats / leg press
leg curl
standing calf raises
rotary calf raises
cable crunch
hanging leg raise
planks

Quite frankly it’s a bitch. This is my third week of the program, and I know the form on my squats and deadlifts has been less than perfect, really bad actually, as these compound lifts I had neglected until november last year, and I can count with my fingers how often I’ve done them. No need to tell me I am (or was) stupid, I know.

Also, the reason I just decided to do the shut up program was twofold.

First, I just wanted some ok-sounding program, while getting back in the routine of lifting, didn’t want to worry too much about choosing exercises, making sure I was working every muscle group well enough, etc.

Second, I used to do well with relatively high volume stuff, or many different exercises, during my last (and only proper) stint of training.

I’ve been discussing this a bit with a friend (who unfortunately is not around to help me with my form) and his advice, was what I could have told myself, to go for TBT, and focus on fewer exercises at a time, as it’s been proven to work beautifully for beginners. Now the only reason I didn’t switch, was first of all, I’m trying to be consistent, damn it :wink: .. and secondly, I was comfortable with only doing the squat / dl once per week, so I could try and work on my form on those days, and really give myself a beating on the others, as I’m relatively comfortable with most upper body exercises.

But the kicker today of course, is that I was still getting ready to lift when my back starts giving me problems. I was still putting on my socks! So today I basically practiced my squatting form, and front squat form for 30 minutes, using just the bar, a broomstick, and I also tried squatting 40kg, just as a test of my form, and it wasn’t painful for my back – so I know my form is getting better!

Now, I think I may have weakened my back with bad form in the last couple of weeks, and then the tram yesterday was the last straw.

Anyway, this is a good learning experience – I avoided these exercises because I was afraid I’d hurt myself. Then I decided to be a man and do them because they’re important, and I hurt myself. And I even thought I wasn’t using enough weight to hurt myself. Bah, this has been a fucking bad day – at least I’m still able to do fasted walks in the mornings.

I’m annoyed about not working my legs, I feel no amount of cardio is really going to fix the fact that the largest muscles of my body didn’t get a workout today, and might not get anything like it for a couple of weeks, so I’m thinking what I can.. leg extensions at least.. my friend also mentioned the possibility of doing squats by attaching a low cable to a lifting belt.. any ideas?

8 foot north swell + 5 knot north current + 2 hours + 10-15 waves caught (lasting about 10sec ride each) + 5’10" high performance = fuckin fun cardio

steinnes, yup, definitely don’t do the measurement thing daily. That’s like hopping on the scale every day or multiple times a day. Done once a week, it’s a useful tool (at least for me, when I’m evaluating people’s progress), but any more than that, it starts becoming obsessive-compulsive.

Ooops, sorry. I hadn’t read far enough ahead that I read your post about doing DLs and squats with bad form because you’re starting back and didn’t want to wuss out.

Don’t ever sacrifice form for a weight you THINK you should be able to do. All you need to do is create a stimulus for growth. Leave your ego at the door when lifting. I’ve had friends who have injured themselves lifting weights and I’ve injured MYSELF lifting weights. It’s so not worth it!!!

Remember, you’ll always be able to lift more weight if you wiggle and squiggle and sacrifice form. In reality, your PR should be the weight you can lift with PERFECT form!!!