I’m the complete opposite. I’m excited about reaching the point where I can no longer maintain any of this, so I can just rest and spend more time reading. I have zero desire to train in my old age.
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Your training is more in line with your username so I can understand that. I also don’t think you’d be satisfied with the 2/3/4/5 marks (and have surpassed them already). I’d say my training has been 80% physique driven to this point. I’m beginning to shift more towards strength but I won’t be giving up on the physique side; just shifting to more of a 60/40 split, maybe 50/50 (physique/strength).
I don’t think it has to be a split man. Since doing chaos and pain style training I’ve gotten mounds stronger, leaner and faster. I set PRs quite often now and rarely train to absolute failure. Then again, my ideal physique is to have forearms bigger than my upper arms, traps that connect to my ears and a massively thick posterior chain. Like an overly yoked contractor.
Edit:Didn’t think about the fact that I am 10 years younger than you, so your results may vary going that heavy that often.
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This x10. I plan on training my ass off until I can’t anymore and then just walking everyday enjoying life with my wife. Training really sucks, but I’m addicted to the results it produces.
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Might as well Olympic lift then my brotha 
My physique goals aren’t too lofty. I good where I’m at so it’s more maintenance. I won’t sacrifice in terms of body fat to pursue a heavy squat or other lift. So my pursuit at this point will be strength but I’ll still do assistance like a bodybuilder.
I’ve never heard of chaos and pain style training before, I’ve just looked it up and it seems interesting. Would you mind talking a bit about how you do it and the results you’ve had? Perhaps in my training log if I link this to save hijacking the thread.
I would if I found a good coach. Also, doing cleans of any nature aside from dumbbells are really a no go right now because of my wrist
I understand where you are coming from, but really, only bench and sometimes OHP are affected by a decrease in body weight. Just look at @MarkKO. He has stayed strong in his squat and dead and barely lost anything on his bench and ohp and he dropped 40? pounds.
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I do it basically as written man, except I just throw arm work in anywhere, I always do overhead presses 2 times a week and deadlift 3 times a week. I run sprints on my “off” days, I do a front squat and bench on my middle day and do singles of back squats on one of my sprint days. Thats pretty much it really. And I pulled 495 from a 4 inch deficit yesterday after a bunch of singles at 405, I overhead pressed 205 doing this style of training after deadlifts, and front squatted 315.
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I wish I knew what this was like. I never end up satisfied with anything.
I remember when I started lifting, I thought that if I could ever get up to 175 lbs or so, and lean, I would have what I considered to be an ideal physique. I’m a hair under 200 now, leaner than I imagined I’d ever be, and I feel small and weak. I have never reached a point where I’ve been able to say yea, I can just maintain this and be happy.
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Thought I would add too, just as with any type of training method, understand the program. Read everything you can. Don’t just look at the outline and think “that looks cool, starting tomorrow!” Sit down, read all you can and understand why it is the way it is. Knowledge really is power
Definitely will do, I won’t be doing it anytime soon anyway. I’ve just started a 5/3/1 full body template where I’m only doing basically three exercises and I’m loving the simplicity, chaos and pain seems similar.
To summarize so I’m on the right track; push, pull, squat of your choice every day for either 15x1, 12x2 or 10x3 and basically autoregulate the weight?
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3 days a week yeah. When you start, he always said to start with 5x3 to get accustomed and work up from there. Always go by feel and do exercises you suck at. The “off” days are weak point training (arms, shoulders, calves) or conditioning.
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I’ve only recently come into this phase of my life. I still wish I could add 10 lbs and maintain my body fat levels but I’ve attempted that several times over the past seven years and failed. I always end up fatter with no other gains.
The documentary “Bigger Stronger Faster” really helped me understand reality. It showed a physique model–the guy on the cover of magazines that I aspired to be. Turns out he’s on just a little bit of gear. Not much, but enough to push him to where I want to be. I could probably get there by abandoning everything else in life and committing to reaching that last 15% of my potential but it’d be at a high cost.
For the sake of sanity I’ve finally swallowed reality. I’m not going to be 240 at 11% body fat. It’s not in the cards for me. I’m not saying that everyone I see who is bigger and leaner than me is on gear; it’s just not something I think I can achieve on my terms. I’d still love to be bigger and still train for hypertrophy but I don’t really expect much out of it. I’m the guy who drops 10lbs in two weeks if I miss the gym and don’t eat enough. All my work seems to go towards maintaining what I’ve built. And I’m ok with that…finally.
So your goal is to feel and look like shit when you’ll get old?
When you stop training while you get older the senescence process accelerates considerably.
Its not even like that man, but the level people on here wish to achieve requires you borderline ruin your body to achieve it before you’re older. No one wishes to grow old and be in shambles, but if absolute strength and such is your goal, it is definitely a possibility.
I’d rather feel and look like shit when I’m old knowing I did something with my youth rather than look and feel like shit when I’m old from possibly doing nothing.
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I see that more as an inevitablity.
I am living my life to take advantage of my youth. Some folks would rather play it safe in their youth to ensure that they will have a great end of their life. That just isn’t for me.
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I’m curious about this approach. A lot of people would say enough is enough when they get a big injury or something such as your knee one but you keep on going so how do you know when you’re done?
I’m definitely in love with the iron game, but let’s be honest! Lifting heavy shit for the sake of it, that’s a pretty pointless endeavour. If I’m crippled when I’m old from lifting heavy shit for the sake of it, I’d probably regret it! It’s not like suffering disabilities from war when defending one’s country or getting injured as a result of one’s job for helping people…