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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Exactly. And the best unemployment measurement is the U6 which is above 15% - higher than in 1940 during the depression when FDR was rapidly expanding the public sector and running rampant with the treasury.

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

People seem to be running with the “Romney can’t identify with ‘main street’ because he is rich.”

I say good. I don’t want Joe fucking plumber running my country. I would imagine the demands and pressures of the White House are a bit more than say, my career and 6 month old. I want somone who is used to that type of atmosphere running shit. Not some microphone jockey that hasn’t run a god damn thing in his life. (Who also can’t ‘indentify’ with main street.) It is fucking retarded.

This whole “class warfare” that has erupted is going to futher ruin shit. “normal, everyday people” are just that. They shouldn’t be president. Holy shit. What is so hard for all those tree huggers out there to understand?

I’ve said it before, I’m not bullish on Romney at all, but god damn it Obama sucks balls.

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Sorry, kinda ranted there for a second, lol.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

People seem to be running with the “Romney can’t identify with ‘main street’ because he is rich.”

I say good. I don’t want Joe fucking plumber running my country. I would imagine the demands and pressures of the White House are a bit more than say, my career and 6 month old. I want somone who is used to that type of atmosphere running shit. Not some microphone jockey that hasn’t run a god damn thing in his life. (Who also can’t ‘indentify’ with main street.) It is fucking retarded.

This whole “class warfare” that has erupted is going to futher ruin shit. “normal, everyday people” are just that. They shouldn’t be president. Holy shit. What is so hard for all those tree huggers out there to understand?

I’ve said it before, I’m not bullish on Romney at all, but god damn it Obama sucks balls.[/quote]

Unemployment is higher today then when Obama took office!

There are more people on food stamps than ever before!

The national debt is hugging 16 trillion.

Obamacare is not popular and will get even less popular the more people know about it!

So what else can he do but wage class warfare that’s all he’s got. He can’t run on his record the man has nothing else.

Will the general populace figure this out?

It all depends on how good the Romney people are. So far I like the way they immediately fire back when attacked, but time will tell.

Edit: Don’t wait for the biased media to report any of the above. It’s up to the Romney campaign to do the heavy lifting while the media continues to sit tightly in Obama’s back pocket.

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This is not to mention the NDAA and other such great bills hes passed. He overhauled the executive branch, and is a TERRIBLE negotiator within party lines. Did not consult congress on Libya (though some dont see that as a problem, regardless it was a waste of resources).

He opposed the keystone pipeline while talking about jobs (hypocrite), continues to ingore that natural gas BOOM in this country which would solve our importing problems, help our current account deficit, AND be environmentally friendly.

His solution to economic woes is tax people more. With the globalized economy these people will move businesses and themselves off shore, leaving net losses of jobs. BUT he wants to then tax these ex-patriate earnings through the IRS. How many people will simply revoke their citizenship. Water flows downhill, just as jobs and caipital flows towards lower tax rates and business friendly countries. He has no concept of anything related to economics, and keeps/kept morons around him like Christina Romer. He expands the same benefits that keep poverty entrenched, the oldest voting block trick in the book.

He appointed supreme court justices who were not only incompetent, but ill suited for the task. Sonia Sotamayor? Please. I have no problem with female justices, or liberal justices, but she takes the cake for a crack pot WASTE of a SCOTUS position. This helps pass HORRIBLE legislation such as ADA.

Speaking of ADA, why did he waste so much time on that, creating FURTHER business uncertainty which exacerbates the economic mire. Who in their right mind was going to hire people while they waited for this financial obfuscation to pass.

Speaking of financial matters, the stimulus was a waste, despite what a few economists (like the ever so brilliant Paul Krugman) think. Over a trillion dollars. Nothing.

How about allowing Timmy Geither the propensity to decide on Too Big To Fail? Moral Hazard increase in the banking system? I think so.

This is THE WORST president in the history of the United States, bar none.

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

What really should have happened for unemployment to rise even higher and then a sharp drop as money shifted to more sound areas of the economy.

But nooooooooo, cant have that.

If people like him were around and in power continuously we would still be driving heavily subsidized horse buggies.

To be fair, he inherited 30 years of this mess, but his solution seems to be to do more of the same, with gusto.

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[quote]666Rich wrote:

This is THE WORST president in the history of the United States, bar none.[/quote]

Well, so far he has neither closed down critical newspapers, not have dissenters thrown in jail, murdered yes, thrown in jail, no, or at least not thaaaat many.

He has not physically threatened supreme court justices, dispended habeas corpus, sorry, that he did, close down banks, inflate the greenback into nothingness, not yet at least…

And that was just Lincoln, whatever else you may think of him.

And of that was not enough, there is always Woodrow Wilson.

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[quote]666Rich wrote:

He overhauled the executive branch, and is a TERRIBLE negotiator within party lines.[/quote]

You know, this is something that I pay a lot of attention to - the non-partisan aspect to the job; executive leadership, negotiator, etc. Obviously, these roles implicate partisan politics - you are going to negotiate to get to your policy preferences enacted, etc. - but the skill set/personality in play for these roles is somewhat independent of politics and ideology.

That said, the current president is terrible in these roles, and I don’t think anyone - lef, right or middle - can disagree.

Fast forward to the future - some issue comes up where we need someone of the gravitas of a past president (or super-diplomat) to negotiate or broker or resolve an issue. Happens fairly regularly - think Clinton in North Korea a few years back.

Would any future president really consider Obama to handle that North Korea job that Clinton did? How about mediating a big labor dispute with national implications?

In my time of observing politics and the presidency, I have never seen a man more poorly suited to that aspect of the presidency than Obama.

And that isn’t a partisan complaint - liberal and conservative presidents alike have been good at these roles. Obama isn’t naturally good at them, and does not appear to be learning on the job.

[end quasi-hijack]

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

Rich people are inherently evil! It even says so in the Bible!

CS

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

Rich people are inherently evil! It even says so in the Bible!

CS[/quote]

Grrrrrrrrhhh…

Big pet peeve of mine.

That people actually dare to so blatantly misquote that passage is something I grow to take personal.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

Rich people are inherently evil! It even says so in the Bible!

CS[/quote]

Grrrrrrrrhhh…

Big pet peeve of mine.

That people actually dare to so blatantly misquote that passage is something I grow to take personal.

[/quote]

You obviously didn’t see the blatant sarcasm.

CS

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

Rich people are inherently evil! It even says so in the Bible!

CS[/quote]

Grrrrrrrrhhh…

Big pet peeve of mine.

That people actually dare to so blatantly misquote that passage is something I grow to take personal.

[/quote]

You obviously didn’t see the blatant sarcasm.

CS[/quote]

I don’t think you see it either.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
There are less jobs today than when Obama took office. The Obama administration likes to say that they have added 4.4 million jobs since taking over, but more than 6 million have been lost. So there’s a 1.6 million net job loss. Good job Obama! You see, the left doesn’t like to report both sides of the story.

Here’s a fun fact for you:

If the same amount of people were in the workforce today as there were when Obama took over, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%.

Have fun with that.

CS[/quote]

Yeah but Romney used to have an off shore account…and um…he’s rich and that’s bad.[/quote]

Rich people are inherently evil! It even says so in the Bible!

CS[/quote]

Grrrrrrrrhhh…

Big pet peeve of mine.

That people actually dare to so blatantly misquote that passage is something I grow to take personal.

[/quote]

You obviously didn’t see the blatant sarcasm.

CS[/quote]

I don’t think you see it either.
[/quote]

Fuck me!

Is it contagious?