[quote]Lorisco wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Don’t talk to me about logic. To say that you can subjegate a race for 400 years and have them come out like nothing happened is alot more illogical. But then of course, thinking like that is just “PC”.
Its not fucking political correctness. Have you read any history books? Of course, no one alive now was brought here on a slave ship. No shit. But do you have any idea what that does to a race? Look at Ireland. They still suffer the effects of a thousand years of English oppression. This oppression, the lack of self worth and degradation they suffered is the reason that they gravitated towards the things they did, namely (and infamously) booze and violence. But then I guess that is “PC” to, and that country was just a waste of space until the computer boom in the 90s.
Just because blacks were “freed” in 1865, does not mean that they were free. What does it mean to you? I can probably trace my identity back to Ireland and Italy, and back even farther. Blacks don’t have that. They have no last name. They have no “heritage” (meaning your descendants leading directly back to another country) to be proud of, as they were taken. What does that do to people? To a race? When you are brought here by slave ships. “Freed”, only to suffer at the hands of a notoriously racist south, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, and a Democratic, anti-progressive south until the big paradigm shift of the 60s?
Sure there wasn’t slavery. But hey asshole, when did the Civil Rights movement happen? “Hundreds upon hundreds of years” ago? There are people that remember that.
“Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 on August 6. The 1965 Act suspended poll taxes, literacy tests and other voter tests and authorized federal supervision of voter registration in states and individual voting districts where such tests were being used. African-Americans who had been barred from registering to vote finally had an alternative to the courts. If voting discrimination occurred, the 1965 Act authorized the Attorney General of the United States to send federal examiners to replace local registrars. Johnson reportedly stated to associates that signing the bill had lost the South for the Democratic Party for the foreseeable future.”
In a fucking democracy, it took blacks ten fucking years to be assured the right to vote. Depending on how old you are, you might remember this, or your father. What does that say about our democracy?
I don’t think you have any idea what it is to have your great-grandfather be a slave, your grandfather fearing the KKK, and your father not being allowed to vote. If I was black, I would be mighty pissed off. Not to mention the fact that the educational system has failed generations of blacks and other minorities. No sense of identity, a history of bloody and vicious oppression, and lack of general education. But then this is all “PC”, so maybe you shouldn’t even read it. Its just liberal bullshit and propaganda.
Screw your name thing. Your sense of history is pathetic, and my few brain cells are better than your two, one of which apparently has the other in a headlock.
Thanks for your review of history that we all know very well. Why? Because Ass-holes like you won’t let it go. Tell me how bringing this shit up over and over and over again helps blacks? Does that get them more educated? Better jobs? No! All it does it continue to division and keep the races separated.
Yes, a lot of shit happened to them. It also happened to Israel (and keeps happening to them) and almost every race you can think of. So we bring it up and try to appease their anger for something that didn’t even happen to them personally. So we give them special names and special privileges, which only ensures that they will never be accepted as equal, because they aren’t treated equal.
So tell me smart-ass, when does it stop? When can the blacks just move on and focus on now? When can they be seen as equal? How many years do we have to wait? Another 100, 300, 1,000?
Those that are smart (like Pro X) have already moved on and are living their life on their own terms and not based on something that happened years ago.
Time to stop living in the past and let the blacks have a chance at a decent life.
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Ayyy. Once again, this is the reason I exited this thread, and now I regret that I even bothered. You are dense and unintelligent. I counter your backwards argument with facts, and you call me an asshole and say “Give blacks a chance”. You just don’t get it.
You obviously have no idea how much racism is still a part of life. I live in NJ. And there are tons of people here, some folks that I work with even, who see a black man walk into the store and say, “Look at this fuckin’ N—er.”
So don’t tell me “give blacks a chance”. You dumbass, it isn’t people like me that don’t give them a chance. it is idiots like yourself that do not even try to understand their position, and do not understand that people simply cannot be trusted to give blacks a fair shot.
Do you even understand the idea that there can be a low-lying, nearly subconcious anger that permeates an entire race? That maybe they don’t want to be a part of a system they consider oppressive? That a failed educational system not only strips them of that we could call “goals” or “ambition” and gives them a completely different take on life then your lily white ass can comprehend? Obviously not.
Stop the “Let’s get together and give blacks a chance” bullshit. You obviously know nothing about race relations, the struggle for power between not only races but economic classes. Keep your thoughtless rhetoric for other like minded idiots.
And how much do you even know about Prof. X that you are talking about him moving on? How do you know he “moved on”? You are making assumptions here that you know nothing about.
You are a retard, and once again I am done with this thread. When something intelligent come back up on this thread, then maybe I’ll give it a shot again.
And Zap, i think the dropping of the “g” was a WWII thing wasn’t it? Its the same reason we call them hot dogs instead of frankfurters. Don’t forget a side of freedom fries. In times of war we do stupid things. I bet half the people in the country still put there Christmas trees up in the 40s though, which is derived from German tradition. Ironic huh.