What Would You Have Done?

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I think you did the right thing.

The guy sounds like an idiot, but to say what he did was worthy of “ending him” or going to work on him with a baseball bat is a huuuge stretch, even for your typical T-Nation e-warrior.

He wasn’t trying to kick your door in. And he wasn’t uninvited. He also wasn’t doing anything threatening. He was acting like a sulky little child trying to sneak in after pretending to walk away.

Look, if a 200+ lb, attempted murderer ex-convict wanted to break through a door and get to a chick through a 140lb teenager… he would’ve done it.

A pissed off threat would’ve just kicked your fucking door in - it’s not all that hard to do. But he didn’t. Hurting him would have been a huge over-reaction and would have caused much more harm than good.

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Yea dude, I would seriously talk with your sister and your mom and tell them whats up. You’re 19, you are an adult now. If they don’t accept your demands, then you leave. Here in the US, he would have had to walk through a loaded shotgun to get in my house, but again, you Europeaners have all but given all your rights away, so you will have to do like the french and surrender and run to safety. No seriously unless you want to end up with your nose bitten off, you need to get the fuck outta there and as fast as you can. I suggest getting your green card and coming over here. At least you can defend your home with a gun here. You sound like you might actually have the stones to use it too.

V

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I think you did ok, glad you didn’t get hurt. If it happens again, I’d call the police, the guy has no right to be acting like that.

Personally, I’d have blown his arm off with a shotgun, but I’m in America.

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Run far and run fast. You’re in the UK so you can get housing pretty easily if you have a part-time job. Move in with a friend, something. Trust me on this, women who are drawn to abusive scumbags are wired like moths to go to the flame.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Yea dude, I would seriously talk with your sister and your mom and tell them whats up. You’re 19, you are an adult now. If they don’t accept your demands, then you leave. Here in the US, he would have had to walk through a loaded shotgun to get in my house, but again, you Europeaners have all but given all your rights away, so you will have to do like the french and surrender and run to safety. No seriously unless you want to end up with your nose bitten off, you need to get the fuck outta there and as fast as you can. I suggest getting your green card and coming over here. At least you can defend your home with a gun here. You sound like you might actually have the stones to use it too.

V[/quote]

I really don’t wanna get involved in a gun debate as under certain conditions I’m pro firearms, but was that really necessary? Those pricks are just as likely to be weilding shotguns to get into your house.

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I would have told your dad to get his meat out of your girlfriend and…oops, wrong thread.

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[quote]makkun wrote:
Call the police? With a history like that, the guy should still not have fully served his time. Even if he’s been out, it doesn’t mean that he’s not still on probation or has fully spent his sentence. From the time he was walking around, I gather he’s not wearing a tag, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t under some form of control.

They won’t know though until you tell them. Your local police station has a non-emergeny number, and you can still call them - in the accute case call 999. Even if you can’t get a charge going, considering pursuing an ASBO might be an option (if they are regulars and local). But these things only work if people put the work in and push for external involvement - which you will most probably need anyway (that’s just a question of time).

In order to register your stuff (I agree with the above poster wrt the disappearing stuff), go register your stuff with Immobilise (just google the site). If your sister hangs around addicts, chances are that she may be using as well.

If that is the case, it’s going to get worse - and then you’ll be faced with a tough decision: how long are you going to take it and wait until she hits rock bottom (working on the assumption that professional offers of help don’t work), make her move out (which will probably meet resistance from your mom), or move out yourself and distancing yourself from them all (if you can’t win the debates before)?

These are situations you can’t solve just by yourself, or by trying to be the ‘man in the house’. They affect and endanger you right at home. Given your young age, your main aim should be to protect yourself. That doesn’t sound very nice or ‘manly’, but remember - your mum is an adult and will make her own decisions, and her initial reaction so far doesn’t indicate that she’s prioritising the right things.

You will be unable to (and you are under no obligation to in any form) to try to be the protector of the family - the size of the guy doesn’t pay as much of a role than you might think, but his level of crazyness does. That’s what I would worry about. In any case, do not in any form arm yourself - that way will lie disaster given the strong laws in the UK on this. Be watchful and if you should run into this guy again, run. Getting out of an environment which allows people like that close to you may become your priority. Talking to your local neighbourhood policing team will be a good first step.

Makkun[/quote]

This.
If a guy with a history like that tried to enter my house I would want the cops to know as soon as possible.

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.357 magnum with a 6" barrel cocked and pointed in his face. That’ll get the point across. Of course, you’d better be ready to use the fucking thing if he still comes after you. A good ol’ Louisville Slugger to the patella might be called for. Basically, you can get physical, but you’d better be willing to get REALLY physical, as in maiming the sonofabitch to let him know you mean business.

Otherwise, just tell your sister to keep that sort of trash away from your house or else you’re gonna get busy on his ass. Hope she gets the point. If you want to avoid confrontation, just call the porkers. They’ll arrest the fucker just for being fucked up on H. Add trespassing and attempted breaking and entering and he could very well be fucked, especially if he’s still on parole. And if the cops ask you if you felt threatened or feared for your safety, always say yes no matter what. Automatic assault charges right there.

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[quote]artw wrote:
.357 magnum with a 6" barrel cocked and pointed in his face. That’ll get the point across. Of course, you’d better be ready to use the fucking thing if he still comes after you. A good ol’ Louisville Slugger to the patella might be called for. Basically, you can get physical, but you’d better be willing to get REALLY physical, as in maiming the sonofabitch to let him know you mean business. Otherwise, just tell your sister to keep that sort of trash away from your house or else you’re gonna get busy on his ass. Hope she gets the point. If you want to avoid confrontation, just call the porkers. They’ll arrest the fucker just for being fucked up on H. Add trespassing and attempted breaking and entering and he could very well be fucked, especially if he’s still on parole. And if the cops ask you if you felt threatened or feared for your safety, always say yes no matter what. Automatic assault charges right there.[/quote]

You don’t cock a revolver, that’s just stupid.

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I cock everything.

just to be safe.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:

You don’t cock a revolver, that’s just stupid.[/quote]

This isn’t a gun thread, but, what the fuck?

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[quote]makkun wrote:
Call the police? With a history like that, the guy should still not have fully served his time. Even if he’s been out, it doesn’t mean that he’s not still on probation or has fully spent his sentence. From the time he was walking around, I gather he’s not wearing a tag, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t under some form of control.

They won’t know though until you tell them. Your local police station has a non-emergeny number, and you can still call them - in the accute case call 999. Even if you can’t get a charge going, considering pursuing an ASBO might be an option (if they are regulars and local). But these things only work if people put the work in and push for external involvement - which you will most probably need anyway (that’s just a question of time).

In order to register your stuff (I agree with the above poster wrt the disappearing stuff), go register your stuff with Immobilise (just google the site). If your sister hangs around addicts, chances are that she may be using as well.

If that is the case, it’s going to get worse - and then you’ll be faced with a tough decision: how long are you going to take it and wait until she hits rock bottom (working on the assumption that professional offers of help don’t work), make her move out (which will probably meet resistance from your mom), or move out yourself and distancing yourself from them all (if you can’t win the debates before)?

These are situations you can’t solve just by yourself, or by trying to be the ‘man in the house’. They affect and endanger you right at home. Given your young age, your main aim should be to protect yourself. That doesn’t sound very nice or ‘manly’, but remember - your mum is an adult and will make her own decisions, and her initial reaction so far doesn’t indicate that she’s prioritising the right things.

You will be unable to (and you are under no obligation to in any form) to try to be the protector of the family - the size of the guy doesn’t pay as much of a role than you might think, but his level of crazyness does. That’s what I would worry about. In any case, do not in any form arm yourself - that way will lie disaster given the strong laws in the UK on this. Be watchful and if you should run into this guy again, run. Getting out of an environment which allows people like that close to you may become your priority. Talking to your local neighbourhood policing team will be a good first step.

Makkun[/quote]

I agree with this, and while I think that it is wonderful that you feel protective of your family, as well as your home…you are a young man…who really shouldn’t have to shoulder so much responsibility right now. Honestly, you should just be able to be…a kid. You have nothing to prove with a lowlife such as this man is. Unfortunately, your sister is making some terrible choices right now, and if you don’t rise above them…you could get in a great deal of trouble for doing something that you only consider protecting your home and family.

Sometimes being the bigger man, means being the smarter man. Figure out how to take control of the situation in a legal way, and remove yourself from it completely if you must.

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You did fine. It’s your house, and odds are if you went outside he would’ve fucked your day up.

Smart kings just raise the drawbridge on the castle… they don’t fight outside the walls.

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Should have called the A-TEAMMMMMM!! - YouTube

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no need to talk about guns, I don’t think you can own a gun in the UK unless its like a 100 year old shotgun or your a cop/soldier right?

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You handled it well. I would’ve tried to fight him, and prob wouldn’t quit until I couldn’t move. That’s just me, plus my dad would be right beside me and he’s Marines so I think we wouldv’e done just fine. But if you don’t feel safe and nothings going to change, get ur ass out of there as fast as possible. Nothing but trouble there.

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Too bad you’re not in the good 'ole USA where you can settle disputes with superior firepower.

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well if someone tries to slip his hand through your mail slot, thats where you draw the line and I think you did fine. Being cautious with a former violent offender is obviously a good thing.

But also be careful about generalizing an opinion about big guys with a rap sheet. Just because he’s an ex-felon who was involved in a violent crime doesn’t necessarily mean he’s going to harm someone if you had let him in.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
I think you did the right thing.

The guy sounds like an idiot, but to say what he did was worthy of “ending him” or going to work on him with a baseball bat is a huuuge stretch, even for your typical T-Nation e-warrior.

He wasn’t trying to kick your door in. And he wasn’t uninvited. He also wasn’t doing anything threatening. He was acting like a sulky little child trying to sneak in after pretending to walk away.

Look, if a 200+ lb, attempted murderer ex-convict wanted to break through a door and get to a chick through a 140lb teenager… he would’ve done it.

A pissed off threat would’ve just kicked your fucking door in - it’s not all that hard to do. But he didn’t. Hurting him would have been a huge over-reaction and would have caused much more harm than good.[/quote]

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[quote]mtlians wrote:
That’s just me, plus my dad would be right beside me and he’s Marines so I think we wouldv’e done just fine. [/quote]

Unfortunately this guy’s parents have split. Young daughter + no father in the house = trouble when young men come sniffing around. I’ve seen it happen too many times.