What Would You Do?

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[quote]Thunor wrote:

[\quote] Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Having grown up and lived in London all my life (Latimer Road/Ladbroke Grove and White City/Acton) this response fascinated me. Do you mind if I ask what area of London you’re from? [/quote]

I’m from Clapton.

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[quote]flipya4it wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]flipya4it wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Call a close friend to bring me a firearm and confront them. Ask why the fuck they are parked in my driveway on private property.[/quote]
Big mistake. Why escalate things? Why make it a potential life and death (yours and/or theirs and/or your family, friends and neighbors)issue by bringing a gun? A gun is a physical solution to a mental problem. Swallow your pride. Check your ego. Call the cops and save yourself a lot of potential heartache and headaches. Why bother having cops and paying taxes? Ask yourself what Sun Tzu would do. [/quote]

have to agree.

if youre gonna take an in your face response,get ready to have to move house.

what makes us all vulnerable and exposed is our familes.

even a gun isn’t an ‘equaliser’ if someone comes back after you won the initial showdown,while youre at work or wherever,and shoots up your house or worse(imo)knocks on your door.[/quote]

You guys watch too many movies.
[/quote]

i’m in a ‘non gun’ country and houses are being shot up here each day as part of ongoing feuds.

if you disrespect someone,point a gun at them on your own property then the first thing you have to remember is that they immediately know where you live and youre not going to be home all the time.

when they want to square things up or save face in front of their mates-theyre coming back to your house.

might sound dramatic but it would be my first concern when considering the scenario posted.[/quote]

Ye, I know several people who would be prepared to arson your house just for catching them up to no good on your property. Anyone who thinks this is story book stuff just doesn’t live in a shit enough area.

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[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]flipya4it wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]flipya4it wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Call a close friend to bring me a firearm and confront them. Ask why the fuck they are parked in my driveway on private property.[/quote]
Big mistake. Why escalate things? Why make it a potential life and death (yours and/or theirs and/or your family, friends and neighbors)issue by bringing a gun? A gun is a physical solution to a mental problem. Swallow your pride. Check your ego. Call the cops and save yourself a lot of potential heartache and headaches. Why bother having cops and paying taxes? Ask yourself what Sun Tzu would do. [/quote]

have to agree.

if youre gonna take an in your face response,get ready to have to move house.

what makes us all vulnerable and exposed is our familes.

even a gun isn’t an ‘equaliser’ if someone comes back after you won the initial showdown,while youre at work or wherever,and shoots up your house or worse(imo)knocks on your door.[/quote]

You guys watch too many movies.
[/quote]

i’m in a ‘non gun’ country and houses are being shot up here each day as part of ongoing feuds.

if you disrespect someone,point a gun at them on your own property then the first thing you have to remember is that they immediately know where you live and youre not going to be home all the time.

when they want to square things up or save face in front of their mates-theyre coming back to your house.

might sound dramatic but it would be my first concern when considering the scenario posted.[/quote]

Ye, I know several people who would be prepared to arson your house just for catching them up to no good on your property. Anyone who thinks this is story book stuff just doesn’t live in a shit enough area. [/quote]

This I can agree with.

Guys are getting killed in the cities here all the time. If I did this where I lived, I might get some vandalism in return, but if I lived in a place like Camden, you can probably count on retribution being awful.

Also, I put this all into the context of where I live right now. If I lived in Paterson or Camden (look up the crime statistics - rough places) and something like this happened, I would be much less aggressive.

However, I’m also not comfortable in those areas, so it’s hard to say if that’s a fair assessment.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]flipya4it wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Call a close friend to bring me a firearm and confront them. Ask why the fuck they are parked in my driveway on private property.[/quote]
Big mistake. Why escalate things? Why make it a potential life and death (yours and/or theirs and/or your family, friends and neighbors)issue by bringing a gun? A gun is a physical solution to a mental problem. Swallow your pride. Check your ego. Call the cops and save yourself a lot of potential heartache and headaches. Why bother having cops and paying taxes? Ask yourself what Sun Tzu would do. [/quote]

have to agree.

if youre gonna take an in your face response,get ready to have to move house.

what makes us all vulnerable and exposed is our familes.

even a gun isn’t an ‘equaliser’ if someone comes back after you won the initial showdown,while youre at work or wherever,and shoots up your house or worse(imo)knocks on your door.[/quote]

You guys watch too many movies.
[/quote]
And I’m sure both Zimmerman and Trayvon didn’t expect that evening’s events to end the way they did. Google “Milwaukee 76 year old man kills 13 year old.” I don’t think that kid thought he was going to die in his mother’s arms while taking out the trash. And these are “regular” people, not hardened criminals. You can also Google “Cheshire, CT home invasion.”

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I would either avoid or just politely ask them to move.

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[quote]YamatoDamashi21 wrote:
I would either avoid or just politely ask them to move.[/quote]

Ditto. I don’t have any ‘enemies’ so to say so I really have no reason to think people are up to no good. Call me naive.

If they’re talking/joking, I’d more than likely walk up like I owned the place and be all “Hey guys, what’s up?”

I actually had this very situation happen late last summer. There were 3 guys sitting on my porch, their car parked behind my wife’s. The wife was with me (just getting back from dinner and drinks), so I didn’t have to worry about her being in the house. We pulled in the driveway, parking next to their car. I left the truck running with the headlights on (and pointed at the house) so the guys on the porch couldn’t see inside (I’ve got dark tint too) and told the wife to hang out and lock the doors. I got out, walked up on the porch, and said “What’s up fellas?”.

Turns out, they were at the wrong house. They were waiting on a friend of theirs that lived a couple houses down. All the houses on my block are the same shape/size (cookie cutter). The apologized and went to the right house. No problem.

Now if they were clearly up to no good, then I’d do pretty much what Sento said - except I’d start by calling my wife to make sure she was ok.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
@legendaryblaze

I also thought it was amusing that the certain large dentist was telling me and the original poster of that question that I was fearful and “culturally unaware” when I likely have a much more thorough combatives background both learning/practicing and working with weekly incidents in crowded situations where it is normal to be outnumbered. It was also sad.

[/quote]

I replied before I read the thread, just because I wanted my genuine response and thought process (or lack thereof) to come through…

SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE??? Can somebody explain this to me? Clearly X was bitching about things he doesn’t know anything about, which is expected, but what situation was this? What happened and how did you solve it Aragon?

(BTW this sounds a lot like when the wraits ambushed the gay hobbits at the top of that fortress thing in the first Lord of the Rings. Just sayin…)
[/quote]

Reading the OP my first thought was “Throw my Skittles at them.” Did I call the origin right? Yes, yes I did.

Really the question about “confronting” vs. “hard confrontation” vs. calling in re-enforcements(LEO or friends) gets answered a bunch of different ways depending on where, when, and how much information is available. Ignoring, politely turning the group away, being helpful, being aggressive, calling the police, or entering into a “run what ya brung” fight may all be the best answer, or the worst.

Several posters have noted that their responses will change a hell of lot depending on where other people (wives, children, etc.) are. Taking in the volumes of information you would be processing in real life and making your decision( either consciously profiling, or unconsciously) is going to be how this gets answered. Doing a good job of processing and deciding the appropriate response makes the handling a group of LDS missionaries at the wrong house and a group of opportunistic criminals possible. Doing a bad job can have consequences.

I have personally let a group of folks know they had the wrong house. I have also let a different group know they had “The wrong fucking house.” Both times it worked out ok, but that doesn’t mean I don’t blow the whole thing the next time.

By the way Aragorn, it surprises me not at all that people lost there shit when the term “profiling” got thrown around. That is a term where the common use definition is almost 180 degrees from the proper use/application.

Also, Irish the proper names for those films are [b]Hot Elf Chick Parts I, II, and III[/b]

Regards,

Robert A

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Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

I do not recommend making a false report to police. Personally, if I left one call to attend another call only to discover on arrival that the complainant made a false report just to get me there sooner, I would be laying charges against the complainant.

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[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Funny, I had a naked, twenty-something, assaultive female call not too long ago. She refused to put clothes on upon our arrival. I really wish she would have.

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i have a very simple daily motto i “borrowed” from MasterCard:

“Glock, don’t leave home without it”

Five guys?, i got two rounds of .45 hollow point a piece, and a lot of point-shooting range time.

What kind of sick mother would leave his Glock at home?

thats the real question.

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[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.[/quote]

Had a good chuckle with this one. In my area, you better hope your house isn’t burning down during the NHL playoffs. I’m pretty sure it’s the same in your neck of the woods.

As for the ATSF, it’s never glamorous. The only upside to it is that you know she isn’t concealing a weapon… However…

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.[/quote]

Had a good chuckle with this one. In my area, you better hope your house isn’t burning down during the NHL playoffs. I’m pretty sure it’s the same in your neck of the woods.

As for the ATSF, it’s never glamorous. The only upside to it is that you know she isn’t concealing a weapon… However… [/quote]

You would like to think you could be sure she wasn’t carrying.

Apparently not.

http://www.torontosun.com/...d+gun+in+vagina

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.[/quote]

Had a good chuckle with this one. In my area, you better hope your house isn’t burning down during the NHL playoffs. I’m pretty sure it’s the same in your neck of the woods.

As for the ATSF, it’s never glamorous. The only upside to it is that you know she isn’t concealing a weapon… However… [/quote]

You would like to think you could be sure she wasn’t carrying.

Apparently not.

http://www.torontosun.com/...d+gun+in+vagina [/quote]

I was hoping someone would complete the “However”. I got a 404 error with that link, but message received.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.[/quote]

Had a good chuckle with this one. In my area, you better hope your house isn’t burning down during the NHL playoffs. I’m pretty sure it’s the same in your neck of the woods.

As for the ATSF, it’s never glamorous. The only upside to it is that you know she isn’t concealing a weapon… However… [/quote]

You would like to think you could be sure she wasn’t carrying.

Apparently not.

http://www.torontosun.com/...d+gun+in+vagina [/quote]

The weapon.

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:
Another poster has already mentioned reporting the incident as a house being “broken” into instead of merely something suspicious in order to speed response.

In that vein, and in the interest of comedy:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:
I expect I’d call the cops, explain the situation and stay on the line with the call taker and keep them informed and follow their direction (if practical) while I found something inconspicuous to occupy myself with until the police arrived. If I could maintain visual contact without being seen myself I would do so. If there is a reasonable/innocent explanation for the situation, the police can sort that out when they arrive. We pay people with guns to come out and deal with this sort of thing. Response time where I live is around 4 minutes. I can hang tight for that long.[/quote]

This is exactly what I would do. [/quote]

Police don’t generally hurry into the area I grew up in. It’s not some kind of Mexican cartel town or anything, but it’s an area where violent crime is taken as a given, and police response time, if they do respond, would be lengthy.

If we assume they aren’t passing through, and I haven’t done anything to upset any of the known trouble makers, I’d probably still call the fuzz, lie low and wait it out, then end up staying with a mate when the Met decided they weren’t interested in responding to my complaint. [/quote]

Yea, where you live will definitely influence your action. Where I live, this would be way out of the norm. It’s also out of the norm in the residential areas I patrol, and we would go check it out in a reasonable amount of time if we weren’t busy with something more pressing.
[/quote]

This is why when you really need the police you don’t do any of this observe and report shit.

You give your location, then say the following “Help, my donut truck is being attacked by naked strippers.” The only issue is sometimes the SWAT/Tactical Team can’t get their van past all the firetrucks that also show up.

For batman730, WN76, and others
I am told, but have no first hand knowledge obviously, that the LEO version of this would be Location followed by an excited “Help, She’s 22. She’s naked. And She is fighting me!” The phrase multi-agency response doesn’t begin to cover it. Screw that officer needs assistance shit.

Regards,

Robert A [/quote]

Well, the tactical guys might have trouble getting past the firefighters cause it takes them a little longer to get suited, booted and strapped. However, the patrol guys will have no trouble beating the hose heads to the scene because they will be, ya know, awake, dressed and out driving around looking for work when the call comes in (as opposed to having a BBQ and a sleepover like the fireys).

I also believe, in my area at least, you would probably get a more enthusiastic response to your specialty taco truck than your donut truck. LE is evolving with the times, after all. Of course, as WN76 says, you best actually have a taco truck being attacked by strippers or you may catch a charge.

Regarding the naked, assaultive 20 something female, sadly I have it on pretty good authority that it’s less glamorous than many might hope. People who fight the police while naked are rarely people anybody wanted to see naked in the first place. “No nudity is good nudity” seems to be the order of the day, which is pretty much the diametrically opposed to how one generally approaches nudity in one’s personal life, but there you go.[/quote]

Had a good chuckle with this one. In my area, you better hope your house isn’t burning down during the NHL playoffs. I’m pretty sure it’s the same in your neck of the woods.

As for the ATSF, it’s never glamorous. The only upside to it is that you know she isn’t concealing a weapon… However… [/quote]

You would like to think you could be sure she wasn’t carrying.

Apparently not.

http://www.torontosun.com/...d+gun+in+vagina [/quote]

The weapon.

[/quote]

No joke. From another story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…–unloaded.html

If you have a problem with the link, it appears this guy had 10+" of .38 revolver up his rectum when he went into lockup. There’s a picture (of the revolver, not the rectum).

Unsettling…

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[quote]WN76 wrote:
I do not recommend making a false report to police. Personally, if I left one call to attend another call only to discover on arrival that the complainant made a false report just to get me there sooner, I would be laying charges against the complainant.[/quote]

Hence the “in the interest of comedy” disclaimer. Hoping some of the LEO’s would get a chuckle out of it.

Generally “overstating” emergencies provoke negative responses from everyone. ER staff hates the “chest pain” that turns into something else. Cops hate the OMGWTFBBQ stuff that is basically nothing. The world turns.

Still, how many of your co workers still want to see the naked call, even though they know it isn’t likely to be good? Of course, standards may be lower with those I talk to

Stay safe and carry your eye bleach.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]batman730 wrote:
No joke. From another story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…–unloaded.html

If you have a problem with the link, it appears this guy had 10+" of .38 revolver up his rectum when he went into lockup. There’s a picture (of the revolver, not the rectum).

Unsettling… [/quote]

That is some seriously misplaced motivation.

Think of all the difficult tasks you have completed. Now ask yourself if you would rather have to do them again, or shove a ten inch revolver up your ass…

That guy could have done anything with that level of commitment.

He chose ass gun.

Regards,

Robert A

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[quote]Robert A wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:
I do not recommend making a false report to police. Personally, if I left one call to attend another call only to discover on arrival that the complainant made a false report just to get me there sooner, I would be laying charges against the complainant.[/quote]

Hence the “in the interest of comedy” disclaimer. Hoping some of the LEO’s would get a chuckle out of it.

Generally “overstating” emergencies provoke negative responses from everyone. ER staff hates the “chest pain” that turns into something else. Cops hate the OMGWTFBBQ stuff that is basically nothing. The world turns.

Still, how many of your co workers still want to see the naked call, even though they know it isn’t likely to be good? Of course, standards may be lower with those I talk to

Stay safe and carry your eye bleach.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

Like I’ve said before, I always enjoy your posts. I did get a good laugh at the image of strippers attacking a donut truck. The visual is wonderful.

Having said that, I do have a confession. Another unit in my area pulled over a vehicle for running a stop sign. When he called in the name of the driver, I made my way over to make sure everything was 10-4. It had nothing to do with her being a well known porn star who lived in the area. Honest!