There can be no peaceful settlements with these animal. They only know one way of life, violence. The reason why you strike on a multi-national scale is to incapcitate any means of support to terrorist groups. There is no negotiation with terrorist, they are not interested in peace, they are interested in death and destruction. For too long we have let these animals run free. We wait for them to take action before we take action, we let them plan and plot terror while we sit back and collect "facts and “information”. What more facts do we need? It’s time to take out every terrorist group that exists for the sole purpose to cause harm to the innocent here and abroad. They are all guilty by association. I have a great respect for those who wish to seek a peaceful solution to this problem. However, pray and good intentions only go so far, all you have to do is look to what happened yesterday to see the results. There is no way to bring a peaceful settlement with the terrorist nation. The only way to fight these animals is to give back to them what the wish to bring on us, terror and destruction.
As I stated in another thread: Call in every SEAL, Ranger, and every surgical strike force, and take out ALL the known terrorists, and every one that you find along the way. Swift, accurate strikes, successful extractions, and blanket denial.
My biggest fear in all of this is that Americans will destroy America by willingly giving up their freedoms in exchange for security. We live under the greatest Constitution that has ever been written, but I’m already hearing people say they are willing to let government tap ALL phones and emails in order to prevent terrorism. People are saying lower the bar on proof to “reasonable suspicion”. I don’t want to see America deteriorate into just another country on the map.
Piss poor analogy. Harboring rapists and murderers within our communities would imply that we know they are there and do nothing to bring them to justice. If the countries harbor terrorists they are guilty. They can “get out of jail free” by turning over the people in question. Very simple. Don’t do it, pay the price, again very simple.
Remember, a dead Afghani child will not grow up to be an Afghani terrorist. A dead Palestinian woman will not give birth to a suicide bomber.
I have always felt that this is a good guide.
IF
If you can keep yor head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired of waiting,
Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, not talk too wise,
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet Triumph and Disaster
And treat those impostors just the same:
If you can bear the truth spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build’em up with worn-out tools;
…
If you can fill the unforgiving minnute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And - which - is more - you’ll be a Man, my son.
Rudyard Kipling
(1865-1936)
i am now sickened that i have to share a name with this disgusting soul.
Hopefully our stance on terrorism has changed forever. No longer will we consider it a crime, but an act of war. In war you merely destroy your enemies will and ability to fight. Additionally, relentless strategic bombing of countries that support and harbor terrorists tend to make them go awya–Libya in the 1980s. Bottomline is bomb every suspected terrorist camp and strategic target in countries that support.harbor them and sieze all assets of those nations.
I am truly sickened about what happened yesterday. I do hope that if the government decides upon action, that it will be swift and merciless.
However, I think there is one underlying issue that most of you are forgetting about in these discussions - OIL!!! Unfortunately, this particular commodity plays a HUGE part in any politics concerning the Middle East and the US. I have no doubt oil oozed into the reason why the USS Cole incident was handled the way it was.
For all those who want to be partial to terrorists…would you rather wait for a biological weapon next time. Can you stomach watching innocent people and children screaming in pain as thier insides turn to liquid? I can’t!!
When you can personally guarantee my safety and the safety of everyone in the US, then you get some respect on this board. Until then, you have NO idea how easy it would be for these psychos to truly have impact.
It’s all karma. What you put in is what you get out. This physical world we live in is simply a stage we set in our minds. This Supposed to be a lesson from which we all learn. Let’s make sure we learn it.
It’s sickening when Terrorists don’t have a country in which they all live in together with no innocent civilians.One nuke will kill them all at once…ahh…no such simplicity.
Rafael,how can u say such sick things? What if out of 10000 Afghan women who bears 1 boy each,and only 10 out of those 10000 boys would become terrorists in the future…it’s bad…
The traditional Arab way of revenge when the perp is dead is to kill the whole family, including all relatives. The terrorists are supported and encouraged by their relatives in attaining martyrdom. They become heroes in their towns for dying for Islam. The only way these people will stop is if the revenge deathtoll exceeds the U.S. number. Their method is to kill those who cannot protect themselves; as witnessed the Israeli school children from the 1950’s to the 1980’s. The murder will stop only with indiscrimnate carpet bombing.
The Irish point of view. Question?? How many of you supported, either in word or by cash donations, the IRA attacks on Northern Ireland and Great Britain? So what is the difference I ask you??
I agree with Bill. I’m sorry to all those people who say we should have unquestionable proof, but this is not just a simple burglary case, or even a simple murder case. This is tens of thousands of people dead. I’ve already stated on another thread, there is only one way to handle this and it’s with a definitive show of force. It’s a declaration of war. Plain and simple and we have to show how America became THE superpower. We need to stop being a simple, weak, pussy country.
I belive the rules of engagement we love and hold only apply in cases where the other guy keeps the rules as well, what do you do when the rules we adhere to are used as weapons against us?
Fairness is a luxury; bullies don’t care about fairness, why should we be incapacitated because we do? Sometimes extraordinary problems require extraordinary solutions
Avoid reaction, embrace response.
First I ardently implore that all official representatives of Islam bind together in a global united massive public visible condemnation of this terror, and debunk and destroy any Islamic religious arguments that might be used to justify terrorist acts, I worry about my Islamic friends that are part of the “good guys”, you better do this and do this NOW.
I might create a sh*tlist of all possible suspects and put massive coercive pressure on them to rat out the perpetrators of this action.
Then maybe after careful and deliberate investigation, retaliate in an incomprehensible level of violence, there is no “justice” for this level of atrocity, you can only martyr a thug once, and you can’t sentence them for 10,000 years in a dungeon.
Then perhaps re-evaluate the many infringing and meddling police actions we have abroad, to determine if they are truly valid, and totally avoid the pathetically weak knee-jerk political reaction of destroying our own freedom in the name of “safety” by promoting various draconian domestic liberty restrictions like Carn1v0re and Echel0n.
A dead Afghani child also cannot grow up to find a cure for cancer.
re: Luke 23:34
F*CK them for they knew EXACTLY what they were doing
We have an obligations to insure all present and future treats are eliminated. What ever it takes to do that must be done with out question. I do not wish for excesive brutality nor am I seeking punishment for what was done. Besides, what is a good punishment for this? What will bring those people back. I do not think any amount of torture or killing will be punishment enough for what has been done. So we just need to ensure that anybody of this mentality is stopped dead.
We are at war and no matter how passoinately we may feel right now, war is a very bad thing. This has the possibility of being a very bad and bloody war. Speaking from the prospective of having kids, I really don’t want to bring my kids up during a war, but it appears there is no alternative.
“In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart
by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. The
third big war will begin when the big city is burning” - Nostradamus 1654 "
Not that Nostradamus deserves any credibility, but that particular
quote is not from Nostradamus at all. It was invented by a guy named
Neil Marshall who was criticizing the vagueness of Nostradamus’s
quatrains. He meant it as an example of a bunch of nonsense
words that could be interpreted in hundreds of different ways.
http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm: