Lift weights, go to class, eat throughout the day, do other shit. I do it, I’m a senior in college. Transfer out of your current institution while you’re at it. And as far as the person telling you to take online classes, I did that too, it’s not an excuse to not do your work, it involved more time, patience and discipline, but I still got to work out, yes I worked various jobs as well.
isn’t vampire boy a psych major at OSU?
It matters not what the degree is in. It does matter how you apply yourself after the degree.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
It matters not what the degree is in. It does matter how you apply yourself after the degree. [/quote]
This is false.
Exercise science is a waste of time. I did that as my undergrad and really wish I had done something where the bulk of the content doesn’t just come in two classes, like Biology or Mechanical Engineering. If you like exercise, fields like this will cover way more than you’d ever need to know if you apply it and do a little outside reading, plus give you the option of being qualified for a good job with benefits.
And Ex Sci degree really does make you an overqualified personal trainer (to the poster above, in no way do you need a CSCS to be a good/successful trainer) or an underqualified physiologist.
[quote]101airborne wrote:
A degree in Exercise Science will NOT make you overqualified to be a personal trainer. Last I remember, you need a degree in the fitness/human performance field to obtain some worthwhile certs, ie. NSCA-CSCS. Psychology wouldn’t get you there.[/quote]
You can get a CSCS with any degree, so psych will get you there. Exercise science is either a ticket to grad school for physical therapy, back to making about the same as the other PT’s at your local gym, or possibly on the road to becoming a strength coach. From the sound of things, our OP here doesn’t have the gumption, work ethic, or time management skills to make it as a strength coach or to get into or through physical therapy school.
I took the exercise science courses I wanted to take as electives, rather than making it a major.
My microbiology major left quite a few credits open for electives. Some majors do this, some don’t. At the University of Florida, exercise science was not one of those majors. There were about 3 credits left over for electives, or something like that, in their program. So the reverse approach would not work, of having exercise science as a major and then taking a good number of other courses one was interested in as electives.
(Unless wanting to add an extra year to graduating.)
As already mentioned, really the only reason (IMO) to get a bachelor’s in Exercise Science is because of wanting to continue with exercise science in graduate school. The bachelor’s is a useless degree of overkill for being a personal trainer, but inadequate for anything else.
I would suggest instead flipping through the entire course catalog, circling courses that sound like ones you’d like to take, and then figure what degrees are pretty compatible with what you’ve found. Then compare those programs.
For example, it would never have even occurred to me to major in microbiology, but I arrived at it by this method and remain quite happy with that decision.
I thought I had no time to train in college. Then I graduated and realized what a lazy ass I was being. Plenty of people go to school full time and manage to find the time to workout. When I was still in school at Ohio State, I lifted and did Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 4 nights a week with a friend that was in dental school there. Sometimes he’d bring in his notes from class and read them between sets. He always found the time though. He might have missed 2-3 workouts a quarter due to lack of time.
My advice to you OP is to find some people that have similar goals (training wise) and stay around them. They will help motivate you to get to the gym. It will be a lot harder for you to convince yourself you don’t have the time when you have someone else to convince.
Unrelated – I’d love to have the opportunity to train at the RPAC again.
If you want something bad enough, you can make time for it. Life is to short to leave anything you want to do, undone. I played collegiate lacrosse, double majored, and still made time to lift (outside of the weak required lifts for athletics) and had an amazing college experience.
I think you should major in what your the most passionate about, don’t let trying to fit other activities into your life influence. I also think that no matter what you major in, you will still have time to lift. If you put in 6-7 hard hours per week lifting you can make huge strides, and being put under time constraints will only force you to be more efficient in your training, taking fewer rests, and getting more out of each lift.
Make time for everything your passionate about and your life will be much better.
[quote]101airborne wrote:
A degree in Exercise Science will NOT make you overqualified to be a personal trainer. Last I remember, you need a degree in the fitness/human performance field to obtain some worthwhile certs, ie. NSCA-CSCS. Psychology wouldn’t get you there.[/quote]
Any four year degree makes you eligible for CSCS, if I’m not mistaken.
A psychology degree will require an advanced degree to make you competetive.
An exercise sport science degree (or Kinesiology) is not a personal trainer degree, but they are pretty much worthless without grad school (this is coming from a guy who got the degree from Texas a year ago and is applying to grad school).
If you want to train/own a gym, you’d probably be better served getting a business degree. Owning a gym/being a trainer has next to nothing to do with having an sport-based degree.
To the OP: if you want to major in Exercise Science, use it as a trampoline for a grad degree (Nursing, Physical Therapy, Exercise/Sports Science).
As for Psychology, do not bother with it unless you are willing to get a Ph.D. It will be hard to get anywhere with just a Bachelor’s in Psychology.
Also, when you are in school, that’s when you have the most time to train. You won’t have the $$$ for all the supplements, and chances are you won’t eat well every now and then, but lifting, you’ll have time for it when in school, lots of it (unless you have a family to support or are working AND studying full time.)
[quote]SuperHuman25 wrote:
I workout six days a week and Im majoring in accounting with a minor in communications. Then Im off to law school. [/quote]
before you go to law school, check out some websites on the web such as above the law, lawshcucks, jdunderground and exposing the law school scam.
45k lawyers enter the profession per year for about 8k new jobs a year (plus attrition).
good luck is you really want to be a lawyer.
major in biology or physics and learn to think about science in general. you can do PE on your own
[quote]SuperHuman25 wrote:
I workout six days a week and Im majoring in accounting with a minor in communications. Then Im off to law school. [/quote]
Nice choice sir
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Exercise science is either a ticket to grad school for physical therapy, back to making about the same as the other PT’s at your local gym, or possibly on the road to becoming a strength coach. [/quote]
I really hope I didn’t misread that as physical therapists making the same as personal trainers (the average) at a gym.
My friend pursued his DPT and now makes more than anyone I know.
[quote]pkiousis wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I workout six days a week and Im majoring in accounting with a minor in communications. Then Im off to law school.
before you go to law school, check out some websites on the web such as above the law, lawshcucks, jdunderground and exposing the law school scam.
45k lawyers enter the profession per year for about 8k new jobs a year (plus attrition).
good luck is you really want to be a lawyer. [/quote]
So if 100,000 people apply to enter a field, there should be 100,000 jobs available? Whatever happened to ‘competition’ ?
45k law school grads with 8k jobs available means a competition rate of 6 people applying for one job (very simplified here).
There is no “law school scam.” Be a bad ass attorney at a good firm (even a med. sized one is good so long as it is well known) and you can make a lot of money, provided that you are on track to making PARTNER and not just satisfied being a low level associate working for 90 hrs/wk @ $70k/yr. Bottom line: make sure you love what you do, because you don’t want to dedicate 7 yrs to making partner in a field of law that you couldn’t care less about.
Make sure you scout out different firms for the way they approach things and their political/bureaucratic structure. Some attorneys are great to work for and others are Nazis. Some firms do things differently than others. It is CRUCIAL that you find a firm that fits your personality and work ethic.
Make sure you read this book before attending (can be read after applying) law school: http://www.amazon.com/Law-School-Confidential-Complete-Experience/dp/031224309X
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Exercise science is either a ticket to grad school for physical therapy, back to making about the same as the other PT’s at your local gym, or possibly on the road to becoming a strength coach. [/quote]
That would be the greatest thing ever to make a living as a strength coach.
Does anyone have an opinion on going for an English major? I think it might be something I want to pursue, though it may be somewhat impractical for a job search afterwards.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Exercise science is either a ticket to grad school for physical therapy, back to making about the same as the other PT’s at your local gym, or possibly on the road to becoming a strength coach.
I really hope I didn’t misread that as physical therapists making the same as personal trainers (the average) at a gym.
My friend pursued his DPT and now makes more than anyone I know.[/quote]
He was saying that your options with an exercise science degree are either, become an overqualified PT that is in debt and making as much as every other certified PT that doesn’t have a college dgree, or go to grad school for something like physical therapy.
An exercise science degree alone won’t usually get you a very good job.
I just graduated with a degree in exercise science and I loved it…unfortunately no great jobs out there so I decided to pursue exercise psychology…something to consider…
there are plenty of law school grads from top law schools who are now 100K plus in debt and can not find jobs or are finding jobs paying 50k or so, personally, I am glad i made the choice to go to law school and become a patent attorney, but people should become aware of the facts. There are still plenty of grads who will start at 140k plus per year, but many law firms are decreasing their pay for assocates and deferring start dates for those to whom they made offers. Others are just being told there is no position available to them anymore due to the economy. To superhuman, make sure you are the 1 person out of 6. Because at least 4 out of 6 people are not going to make a living in law. Make sure you can distinguish yourself in the interview process. And if you get a job, don’t screw it up.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
pkiousis wrote:
SuperHuman25 wrote:
I workout six days a week and Im majoring in accounting with a minor in communications. Then Im off to law school.
before you go to law school, check out some websites on the web such as above the law, lawshcucks, jdunderground and exposing the law school scam.
45k lawyers enter the profession per year for about 8k new jobs a year (plus attrition).
good luck is you really want to be a lawyer.
So if 100,000 people apply to enter a field, there should be 100,000 jobs available? Whatever happened to ‘competition’ ?
45k law school grads with 8k jobs available means a competition rate of 6 people applying for one job (very simplified here).
There is no “law school scam.” Be a bad ass attorney at a good firm (even a med. sized one is good so long as it is well known) and you can make a lot of money, provided that you are on track to making PARTNER and not just satisfied being a low level associate working for 90 hrs/wk @ $70k/yr. Bottom line: make sure you love what you do, because you don’t want to dedicate 7 yrs to making partner in a field of law that you couldn’t care less about.
Make sure you scout out different firms for the way they approach things and their political/bureaucratic structure. Some attorneys are great to work for and others are Nazis. Some firms do things differently than others. It is CRUCIAL that you find a firm that fits your personality and work ethic.
Make sure you read this book before attending (can be read after applying) law school: http://www.amazon.com/Law-School-Confidential-Complete-Experience/dp/031224309X[/quote]