What to Do About Balding?

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Some doc who is very famous for promoting HRT and is progressive about use of test and other drugs to support high test levels and good hormonal function.

Why would anyone assume you could simply drop DHT levels to 0 and the only effect would be your hair growing back? The only steadfast rule about drugs is that no drug has a singular effect on the body.

If it didn’t effect you very much, good for you… everyone’s physiology is not the same. I’m certainly not rolling the dice for a chance to regrow my hair.

Note that DHT, which is reduced by finasteride, is a very potent androgen. If you aren’t on test, you are much more likely to notice negative side effects. According to the doc in that youtube, he has seen many patients who experience symptoms of low test after taking finasteride even after he gives them HRT and gets their test back up in the high ranges.

OP, as has been said, embrace it, cut your hair short and then shave your head when your hairline goes back too much. If you really want to do it right get hair follicle replacement or w/e it’s called, it’s a lot more expensive though.

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Okay so I have some pics of my hair…I just got a haircut the other day…From the back it is not really noticeable (the balding)…it’s more of a birds eye view one can notice it (someone taller than me) and yeah. This will give more perspective of what’s going on.

Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

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Wow challer - that is pretty scary stuff!

Like I said before…I’m not comfortable with taking pills…I’m just not a pill guy, I have the stubborn serbian mentality lol I would literally die before taking most things (yes it silly) my grandpa is the same way. So yeah the finestride was a definite no no from the start and with this video I mean that’s horrible!

I just never trust drugs they put out, everything has side effects and it’s just fucked up. I don’t take pills of any sort (except some vitamins) I don’t do drugs, I don’t drink really…once here and there (we’re talking months) I like to let the body do the things it needs to do to help heal…I mean if you have a serious infection drugs will help I’m not that against them…but for the most part I like things to take a natural course of action.

As for the shampoo I have been looking into it…some reported more hair loss but it seems the biggest things are just itchines, dryness, irritation…looks overall to be harmless

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Challer - as well I do have my hair short all the time, that’s my style…I just rather keep it like this (see pictures) instead of shaving it completely. I guess if it gets really bad I will have to shave it…if I buy the shampoo hopefully it decreases that time.

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[quote]challer1 wrote:

Some doc who is very famous for promoting HRT and is progressive about use of test and other drugs to support high test levels and good hormonal function.

Why would anyone assume you could simply drop DHT levels to 0 and the only effect would be your hair growing back? The only steadfast rule about drugs is that no drug has a singular effect on the body.

If it didn’t effect you very much, good for you… everyone’s physiology is not the same. I’m certainly not rolling the dice for a chance to regrow my hair.

Note that DHT, which is reduced by finasteride, is a very potent androgen. If you aren’t on test, you are much more likely to notice negative side effects. According to the doc in that youtube, he has seen many patients who experience symptoms of low test after taking finasteride even after he gives them HRT and gets their test back up in the high ranges.

OP, as has been said, embrace it, cut your hair short and then shave your head when your hairline goes back too much. If you really want to do it right get hair follicle replacement or w/e it’s called, it’s a lot more expensive though.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this at all, like I said you have to try it to see if it works for you. If your sex drive or test levels drop, quit taking it before you do permanent damage. This is no different that using AAS / HRT, if you don’t research it properly and watch for negative sides and adjust accordingly bla bla bla ext…

This drug is dosed to “reduce” your DHT levels to a normal range not kill it completely. This is also why I stated that I cycle on and off it for 4 months out of the year just as you would with AAS, just to be safe or as safe as possible.

OP, at the very least talk to your doc about it, it only helps certain types of hair loss, and those types of hair loss can point to elevated levels of DHT. People that are losing their hair in different balding patterns can be losing it for reasons other that DHT levels.

Therefor people that are losing their hair for reasons other than abnormally high DHT levels that choose to take finasteride, run their DHT levels into the ground and do permanent damage to there hormone production… "You have to be a viable candidate for this drug in order for it to work and not cause problems. BTW I don’t have any real proof to back any of this BS up but it sounds good to me, and my Doctor agrees.

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[quote]rasturai wrote:
Okay so I have some pics of my hair…I just got a haircut the other day…From the back it is not really noticeable (the balding)…it’s more of a birds eye view one can notice it (someone taller than me) and yeah. This will give more perspective of what’s going on.

Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

http://img180.imageshack.us/g/dsc02033z.jpg/[/quote]

I started thinning and receding at 21. Fought the good fight for a while then started using clippers at 23. Finally, started shaving completely last year at 25. Yes, I wear a lot of hats and am slowly still coming to grips with being completely bald but shaving is definitely the way to go.

Your hair isn’t bad at all. Get one of these:

http://www.remington-products.com/grooming/bg_bht-500.htm

Cut at 1 or a no guard once a week. Problem solved.

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[quote]rasturai wrote:
Okay so I have some pics of my hair…I just got a haircut the other day…From the back it is not really noticeable (the balding)…it’s more of a birds eye view one can notice it (someone taller than me) and yeah. This will give more perspective of what’s going on.

Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

http://img180.imageshack.us/g/dsc02033z.jpg/[/quote]

First of all, you’re hot. Second of all, you have the same spot my ex husband had and his really hasn’t progressed much beyond what yours is (he’s 50 now). When he got married the 2nd time he started using Rogaine and it did fill the spot in.

I think Brad said he used the Costco version of Rogaine (Minoxidil is the name of the ingredient). For $20 I think you should give it a try. It was a great idea to post pictures because I can see why you wouldn’t go for a shaved head. If totally bald isn’t for you, keeping your hair as short as possible minimizes the spot.

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[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Okay so I have some pics of my hair…I just got a haircut the other day…From the back it is not really noticeable (the balding)…it’s more of a birds eye view one can notice it (someone taller than me) and yeah. This will give more perspective of what’s going on.

Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

http://img180.imageshack.us/g/dsc02033z.jpg/[/quote]

First of all, you’re hot. Second of all, you have the same spot my ex husband had and his really hasn’t progressed much beyond what yours is (he’s 50 now). When he got married the 2nd time he started using Rogaine and it did fill the spot in. I think Brad said he used the Costco version of Rogaine (Minoxidil is the name of the ingredient).

For $20 I think you should give it a try. It was a great idea to post pictures because I can see why you wouldn’t go for a shaved head. If totally bald isn’t for you, keeping your hair as short as possible minimizes the spot. [/quote]

Great info - but in the event he feels so compelled, I think he’d look great bald. The sensitive thug look… women go CRAZY for that. While I’m sure it has to suck to know you’re losing hair I often think hair is overrated. Just saying.

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I’m with you, Siren. I’m a HUGE fan of the shaved look. I just felt he was really against it (he has time, he can change his mind :wink:

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I was under the impression that baldness is hereditary not from your father but your mother. The girl that cuts my hair said this to me last week as a matter of fact. It sounds stupid but I’ve heard this for before.

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Yes it is a recessive gene carried on the maternal side of the family. Like was said above if your mothers father or grandfather (her mothers side) are bald. You carry the trait. [/quote]

Flawed study perpetuated for decades. If that were true, my brother and I would still have full heads of hair as everyone on my mother’s side still has all of theirs. It can come from either side and is usually a crapshoot, just as any other genetic factor.

That being said, OP, I would say just shave it. My baby bro started going bald at about your age and has been bald since he was about 24. I started getting thin up top a little over 2 years ago and said the heck with it and shaved it all off. It’s cheaper than a haircut every few weeks, the ladies love it and it’s low maintenance. IMO, just cut it off and get on with life. All this preening of and worrying about their long flowing locks by men sounds like bitch behavior, IMO. If you keep your hair, great, if you lose it, accept it and get on with life.

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I’m 39, at one point I was losing hair but then it just sort of evened out. Now I keep it very short - I go to my barber every few weeks to keep it clean and short.

My only advice is: age gracefully. Seriously, don’t do surgery or any other readily apparent hair restoration. And don’t blow a ton of money on pills.

Just get more and more jacked in the gym, shave your hair off when it’s time, and the women will come to you in droves. Nothing worse than a guy walking around trying to hold on to something that’s not there anymore, or walking around with an easily spotted surgical mane on his head.

I still remember this fraternity brother I had who had hair restoration done after college…it was so bad, we all made fun of him. Then, one day he showed up with it ALL shaved off. I’m telling you, dude slayed ass that summer like no one’s business. He was a machine with the ladies.

With a shaved head the women will come in droves. Trust me.

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Okay so I have some pics of my hair…I just got a haircut the other day…From the back it is not really noticeable (the balding)…it’s more of a birds eye view one can notice it (someone taller than me) and yeah. This will give more perspective of what’s going on.

Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

http://img180.imageshack.us/g/dsc02033z.jpg/[/quote]

First of all, you’re hot. Second of all, you have the same spot my ex husband had and his really hasn’t progressed much beyond what yours is (he’s 50 now). When he got married the 2nd time he started using Rogaine and it did fill the spot in. I think Brad said he used the Costco version of Rogaine (Minoxidil is the name of the ingredient).

For $20 I think you should give it a try. It was a great idea to post pictures because I can see why you wouldn’t go for a shaved head. If totally bald isn’t for you, keeping your hair as short as possible minimizes the spot. [/quote]

Great info - but in the event he feels so compelled, I think he’d look great bald. The sensitive thug look… women go CRAZY for that. While I’m sure it has to suck to know you’re losing hair I often think hair is overrated. Just saying.[/quote]

Thanks for the compliment! lol

I’m not REALLY against shaving my head…before when I did have more hair I used to shave my head back in highschool. It’s just not really the look I’m goin for now and my hair is fallin out! haha

But as you saw in the pictures I keep my hair very short as is…and I think it still looks okay like this so I am gonna leave it. I’m just gonna buy some shampoo to prevent it from further balding and that’s about it :slight_smile:

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I was under the impression that baldness is hereditary not from your father but your mother. The girl that cuts my hair said this to me last week as a matter of fact. It sounds stupid but I’ve heard this for before.

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Yes it is a recessive gene carried on the maternal side of the family. Like was said above if your mothers father or grandfather (her mothers side) are bald. You carry the trait. [/quote]

Flawed study perpetuated for decades. If that were true, my brother and I would still have full heads of hair as everyone on my mother’s side still has all of theirs. It can come from either side and is usually a crapshoot, just as any other genetic factor.

That being said, OP, I would say just shave it. My baby bro started going bald at about your age and has been bald since he was about 24. I started getting thin up top a little over 2 years ago and said the heck with it and shaved it all off. It’s cheaper than a haircut every few weeks, the ladies love it and it’s low maintenance. IMO, just cut it off and get on with life. All this preening of and worrying about their long flowing locks by men sounds like bitch behavior, IMO. If you keep your hair, great, if you lose it, accept it and get on with life.
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sounds good man…I posted some pics too dunno if you checked them out…but I’ve made the decision I’ll just get some shampoo to prevent further balding and I always leave my hair short like that.

Well I used to get fades with number 1 all the way around the sides and then leave the hair on top…but I just think the fades don’t look as good with the bit of balding that is goin on now so no more fades…just keepin it short all around and I’ll stick with that.

And yeah the only reason I’m not shavin my head is cause it’s not the look I was goin for lol but eh if it happens it happens…I’m not too worried bout it, I’ll just have to thug out on everyone haha jk.

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rasturai:

I feel your pain, bro. Definitely started thinning big time at age 22 and now (at 27) am pretty thin up top. It’s no fun. The good news is that you’re a pretty good looking guy (no homo). You have a solid facial structure, appear decently tall, have some good size, and can grow some decent facial hair. You can progressively buzz it down and go for the Jason Statham/Bruce Willis/bad boy look; you’ll pull it off very well.

But for the time being, your loss isn’t that severe, to be honest. I would consider doing some Nizoral shampoo and maybe some Rogain foam on the spot at your vertex and call it good. But if the loss gets much worse, then consider buzzing it down. But again, with your natural looks, you basically can’t go wrong no matter what you do. Good luck to you, buddy.

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I was under the impression that baldness is hereditary not from your father but your mother. The girl that cuts my hair said this to me last week as a matter of fact. It sounds stupid but I’ve heard this for before.

[/quote]

Yes it is a recessive gene carried on the maternal side of the family. Like was said above if your mothers father or grandfather (her mothers side) are bald. You carry the trait. [/quote]

Flawed study perpetuated for decades. If that were true, my brother and I would still have full heads of hair as everyone on my mother’s side still has all of theirs. It can come from either side and is usually a crapshoot, just as any other genetic factor.

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some genetic factors are indeed sexed linked and are passed on only like the mother. These are usually significant chronic disease conditions though, like hemophilia (practically non-existent in women, but they can carry it). For a woman to get hemophilia, the father has to have it and the mother has to carry the gene.

But anyway, at this point, there are multiple genes linked to male pattern baldness. There are some on the X chromosome, meaning that the mother’s side does indeed play an important factor.

On top of that though, there are mutations on other chromosomes are thought to contribute to baldness… so the mother’s side is only a part-truth. you could not have any X-linked mutations for baldness but possess a mutation on another chromosome and develop male pattern baldness.

The only thing is that you only get 1 of your mother’s Xs, so the “mother’s father” doesn’t mean much when you could have gotten that specific gene from you mother’s mother, who could have gotten it from her mother, so on and so forth.

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I did a cycle and started getting a bald spot, stopped pct’ed, and now my hair has grown back in.
I’m just sayin, I don’t know about genetic baldness, but, it could grow back. Jus sayin. Otherwise just go skinhead.

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[quote]eic wrote:
rasturai:

I feel your pain, bro. Definitely started thinning big time at age 22 and now (at 27) am pretty thin up top. It’s no fun. The good news is that you’re a pretty good looking guy (no homo). You have a solid facial structure, appear decently tall, have some good size, and can grow some decent facial hair. You can progressively buzz it down and go for the Jason Statham/Bruce Willis/bad boy look; you’ll pull it off very well.

But for the time being, your loss isn’t that severe, to be honest. I would consider doing some Nizoral shampoo and maybe some Rogain foam on the spot at your vertex and call it good. But if the loss gets much worse, then consider buzzing it down. But again, with your natural looks, you basically can’t go wrong no matter what you do. Good luck to you, buddy. [/quote]

Thanks a lot man, I appreciate the support! I’m gonna do exactly what you said…get the shampoo and see how it goes. I might not bald anymore and this is kinda like a phase or somethin…like I said I used to shave my head so it wouldn’t be a shock of how I look…I can pull it off, but it does give me that bad boy image haha and I wasn’t really goin for that…but hey if that’s what it is then that’s what it is!

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[quote]rasturai wrote:

[quote]eic wrote:
rasturai:

I feel your pain, bro. Definitely started thinning big time at age 22 and now (at 27) am pretty thin up top. It’s no fun. The good news is that you’re a pretty good looking guy (no homo). You have a solid facial structure, appear decently tall, have some good size, and can grow some decent facial hair. You can progressively buzz it down and go for the Jason Statham/Bruce Willis/bad boy look; you’ll pull it off very well.

But for the time being, your loss isn’t that severe, to be honest. I would consider doing some Nizoral shampoo and maybe some Rogain foam on the spot at your vertex and call it good. But if the loss gets much worse, then consider buzzing it down. But again, with your natural looks, you basically can’t go wrong no matter what you do. Good luck to you, buddy. [/quote]

Thanks a lot man, I appreciate the support! I’m gonna do exactly what you said…get the shampoo and see how it goes. I might not bald anymore and this is kinda like a phase or somethin…like I said I used to shave my head so it wouldn’t be a shock of how I look…I can pull it off, but it does give me that bad boy image haha and I wasn’t really goin for that…but hey if that’s what it is then that’s what it is!

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You’re welcome, brother. I wish you the best of luck. I would offer just one thing about the bad-boy look. For awhile I shaved my dome smooth and my friends, parents, and girlfriend (basically everyone close to me) didn’t like it and said it made me look mean. People I didn’t know very well and complete strangers seemed to like it. In fact, the first thing I noticed was that strangers started saying hello to me randomly in public when I had a shaved head vs. normal hair. This was particularly true of old ladies. It was the complete opposite of what I expected; I would have thought everyone would have assumed I was a thug and avoided me but they actually seemed to gravitate toward me.

Anyway, my point is that I wouldn’t worry too much about what the people closest to you have to say. They are probably more thrown off by the change than what the buzzed/shaved head actually represents. Just food for thought. Good luck, as I said. You’ll be fine.

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
A guy at work asked me how I felt his baldness was hurting his chances with women. He wanted frankness so I told him what was “hurting his chances with women” was his highly processed diet, tobacco addiction, and lack of training. But he, at least, had a shaved head; much better than trying to hang onto those last strands of hope. Totally bald is hot when you LOOK like you hit the iron hard so shave off what remains and lift. I’ve noticed such men have no trouble getting women…[/quote]

Women do like guys that take care of themselves. My hair is not what it used to be but I’m over 50. I get it buzzed every 3 weeks, have a trimmed goatee. I’m well groomed, clean and dress well, eat right. lift like a bastard and have no harmful habits. I should live to 90 with some luck.

BG