I don’t worry about buying organic foods because of the loopholes in labeling laws. You’re very rarely actually getting what you think you are.
Beside that, you cannot control the air that flows around organic farms. The idea that foods are organic and healthy is nice on paper but the sad reality is that there are just too many tainted sources that kill the idea in the growing process.
[quote]sumgai wrote:
I don’t worry about buying organic foods because of the loopholes in labeling laws. You’re very rarely actually getting what you think you are. [/quote]
if it has the usda organic symbol there aren’t loopholes as there are specific guidelines it must follow.
other than that you’re correct
i buy organic milk (cept for calorie countdown)
that’s really about it since I don’t get to whole foods much.
strawberries are among the most heavily sprayed, so if Giant carried them I would go that route.
I prefer to spend the extra money on meat (wild, grass fed, what have you). I’ve honestly never bothered with organic products. Unless the tomatoes are looking particularly crappy. Then I’ll go with the organic ones.
so for the most part, folks aren’t concerned with organic?
I am. Not just for the health aspects but also for the market and competition aspects.
man… strawberries… OOOHHHHHH boy… I hope everyone in San Diego heads to Carlsbad during strawberry season and picks their strawberries… so good
HeY! question for the wine folks. I know nothing about wines. I’ve seen these new organic wine and sulfide-free labels. What is up with those? Anyone know?
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
sumgai wrote:
I don’t worry about buying organic foods because of the loopholes in labeling laws. You’re very rarely actually getting what you think you are.
if it has the usda organic symbol there aren’t loopholes as there are specific guidelines it must follow.
other than that you’re correct
i buy organic milk (cept for calorie countdown)
that’s really about it since I don’t get to whole foods much.
strawberries are among the most heavily sprayed, so if Giant carried them I would go that route.[/quote]
wow, you believe everything the usda tells you? have fun with your food pyramid.
October, strawberries rock. I don’t care if they’re organic or not. I used to drive inland up into the mountains above northern SD to this small town…that I cannot think of at the moment…for strawberries and pie. That ish was goooood.
[quote]sumgai wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
sumgai wrote:
I don’t worry about buying organic foods because of the loopholes in labeling laws. You’re very rarely actually getting what you think you are.
if it has the usda organic symbol there aren’t loopholes as there are specific guidelines it must follow.
other than that you’re correct
i buy organic milk (cept for calorie countdown)
that’s really about it since I don’t get to whole foods much.
strawberries are among the most heavily sprayed, so if Giant carried them I would go that route.
wow, you believe everything the usda tells you? have fun with your food pyramid.
October, strawberries rock. I don’t care if they’re organic or not. I used to drive inland up into the mountains above northern SD to this small town…that I cannot think of at the moment…for strawberries and pie. That ish was goooood.[/quote]
If you were in Southern Calif, specifically San Diego, I bet you were in Julian. They are famous for their pies.
I don’t care if it makes me naive, but I want to believe the USDA.
What are we to do?
I have the little vegetable and herb garden but really, how do you know?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I don’t buy anything organic. I just don’t buy into the marketing scams.
The only possible way to get real organic food is to grow it yourself. Highly marketed organic stuff has to be processed somewhere some how.
That means the food has to be picked before it is really ripe so it can handle processing without getting beat up.
I have been eating the produce in the grocery store for as long as I can remember - and I am still alive and kicking.
Until someone can prove to me that organic is better for you - I’m not going to waste my money paying extra for a buzzword. [/quote]
Damn you Rainjack! Don’t you piss on my thread!
I want to believe there are some better choices out there. Not all of us can go out there an gather our own produce or butcher our own fresh meat you NO GOOD!
I always buy the following stuff organic/free range
-yoghurt/butter from grass fed cows
-free range eggs
-Chicken
-Beef
The rest I don’t really care about occasionally I will buy organic fruit and veg but usually when its on special offer. The stuff listed above though I will always get the highest quality of.
I buy the little amounts of fruit I consume from local organic farmers. Its dirt cheap and damn tasty too. As far as my protein sources, fuck no! I couldn’t afford to eat the amounts I do. I’m not tooting my horn, Im just too poor to afford it.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
If you were in Southern Calif, specifically San Diego, I bet you were in Julian. They are famous for their pies.
I don’t care if it makes me naive, but I want to believe the USDA.
What are we to do?
I have the little vegetable and herb garden but really, how do you know?[/quote]
Yes, Julian! That’s the place.
I’d love to believe the USDA too, but they are beyond corrupt. I’m not some paranoid hippie tree hugger but money/special interests/industry runs the USDA. Like rainjack said, in America “organic” is just a marketing term. There are loopholes that allow growers to label their produce as organic when in fact they are not 100% organic. Who wants to spend money on 50% organic foods? Isn’t the point that it’s 100% organic? It’s like a woman saying she’s kinda pregnant. Either you are or you aren’t. There’s no “kinda organic”.
Sadly, money rules our country and corrupts even once straight government officials and politicians. The system is much bigger than any individual we put in office.
Anyhow, I love buying strawberries, blackberries, and blueberries from local farmers markets even if they’re not advertised as “organic”.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
does anyone else grow their own veggies or herbs? I don’t have a farm but I am lucky enough to now have a vegetable plot and herb garden.
be careful when planting rosemary, that stuff will take over a yard.
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My girlfriend and I grow Thai basil, leeks, tomatoes, and peppers out of our condo- we don’t even have a yard.
Regarding ‘organic’ items, I don’t purchase ‘organic’ items either- I couldn’t agree more with sumgai. After listening to several toxicologists describe the true meaning of the word in their studies. I think its funny that some ‘organic’ produce can still have been treated with pesticides/fungicides so long as they’re not on a banned list.
I always buy organic apples, they taste really good. I recently started buying organic raisins and they taste is so different I will never want to eat other raisins anymore.
There are a few lists I’ve come across saying which foods make a difference if they are organic. Apples were one of them, broccoli wasn’t. Its too damn early and i’m not finding it online, I’ll look later.
