I saw this video on YouTube a day or two ago, and I think that it’s applicable to this thread.
doesn’t really matter if it’s sustanon or E or whatever here. As far as UGL goes, I can get them all at about the same price as I mentioned above. Hell, I can get a 10mL bottle of tren for less than what you guys pay for 3mL of test.
A 10mL vial of tren E @200mg/ml will set you back at least 110$ here.
Lotta people going UGL for trt based on the fact the govt can’t supply our medication and when they can it’s expensive, to get PBS subsidized TRT you need to be below 174ng/DL (very strict with TRT here)
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I’m from Canada haha
Test is 50-60$ here
If you know people
I’ve earned my “ranks” to get these prices tho because I upsale 50% no matter what.
So what the other guy was saying 90-110$.
Trust me it’s not that expensive you’re just getting upsaled!
I don’t buy from a dealer tho, I buy from UGL’s (dealer is last resort, it’s even more expensive from them, and while I know a few, I’d only buy from a dealer in person if I ran out of UGL product and simultaneously could get access too my TRT.)
Part of my reason for purchasing any UGL test was in case there was a shortage of TRT here, and thank god I did because it turns out now there IS a shortage in legit TRT available here
As to selling, and you worried about getting caught? That’s a fairly long jail sentence. I gander it’s similar to selling someone my pain meds (which I never have and never will) do, although selling pain meds is riskier as pain meds can kill from a single overdose, you could shoot 30 grams of anabolics a day and still be alive the next day (the next year probably not)
Mine is free, ships to my door. Even with Syringes and needles.
Hi, just found this topic, also trying to compete in high level, I also agree with crazy amounts of gear are not necessary, but I thats also correct that at high level u will have to build up those dosages to pretty dangerous level… I just finished my last cutting cycle, Test. Prop-500/ week, Tren ace-350/ week, Winstrol- 50/ eod, Clen and Arimidex for AI, now jumping to PCT, this cycle was aheaded by a pretty intanse bulking cycle, Test.E 650/ week/ Deca 425/week, Metha 30mg/ day with proviron for AI. These 2 cycles almost took the whole year so now I must take a longer off time for recovery before jumping into next bulking cycle.
By the way how is your next cycle going, what are your plans?
Also what are your thoughts about on/off ratio?
What do u all think about bulking nutrition? How much surplus u using for maximum results with the least body fat?
High level for bodybuilding or powerlifting
Either way, props to you for not abusing massive amounts like an absolute yolotard… you’re doing this the right way, respect to you!
The “but I’m trying to compete” rhetoric is great… but if you haven’t even been recognized as a pro lifter but you’re using say 4000mg/wk… that’s problematic
Should clarify 100mg Tren/wk equates to roughly 500mg test/eq/whatever weekly
People are dropping quite young nowadays, whilst anabolic steroids absolutely do have a deleterious effect on the cardiovascular (and numerous other systems), the reason we are seeing guys drop in their 20s is (primarily) due to extreme, EXTREME levels of abuse… or not, perhaps even low dosages cause extreme detriment, however if that were the case I think far more golden era bodybuilders would be dead by now
Well, I do powerlifting not bodybuilding but I think powerlifting has a reputation for absolute drug abuse. More so than bodybuilding. I have known few competitors, both bodybuilders and powerlifters and the powerlifters are all blasting tren by the grams and pounding the orals.
With my bodybuilding buddies, they use much more conservative doses.
Tren abuse seems to be the major one in powerlifting. I can understand why, if you are trying to squeeze into a lower weight class while.building strength.
A few of the PLers I know look like off season BBers, and big open class ones at that. 5’9" and 250 lbs with 4 pack abs is huge.
They don’t have the symmetry of a good BBer, but still a few have mentioned that they are above 20" arms, at a BF percentage that allows a 4 pack.
I think at the pro level the BBers are bigger, at the amateur’s level the PLers are bigger. Just my observations. Maybe not true, but true to my observation sample size.
I think they were in general taking more than what we have been lead to think. I still think most that were competitive were well over a gram a week. If you listen to the interviews though it is like 400 test 400 deca, lol.
I believe this to be the case too… but I don’t think they were on like 2g test weekly 1 g deca 1 g eq 300mg Tren and orals like many are today
I think it’s about equal, perhaps powerlifters are more ham on the orals but bodybuilders tend to fuck with DNP, beta 2 agonists, dieuretics, opiates, amphetamines/stimulants more when coming up to a competition… or do powerlifters do that stuff too? I don’t think they need to be as lean, and one can make a weight class without these compounds typically (plus many of these drugs would kill strength somewhat)
Strongman on the other hand appears to be just all out drug abuse, some guy on here said he knew a competitor that would inject pure adrenaline prior to a comp… so like… an Epi pen (retarded thing to do)
One thing to mention and something Larry pacificos brought up once is that back in the 70s powerlifters actually looked good. Nowadays that is not the case with most.
I mean look at Roger estep. He looked good plus.was a powerlifter.
Sure, not dick skin shredded, but dam good.
Agree there. I think it is coming back around now. For a while it was about lifting the absolute most even if it required massive weight gain. Now it seems like people are trying to be really good in a weight class.
This is the approach I take. Nothing wrong with wanting to look good while being strong. Sure, I will never be world class, but neither was roger. But he was fucking alpha and what every man should aspire to be
Roger was jacked. I think he only made it to 47 unfortunately. I do believe in diminishing returns with AAS. Maybe I can be 80% of Roger with like 20% of the gear.
just a nice dose of test + deca + dbol. I mean he had that classic look.
For me test + dbol would be my course of action. Nandralone scares me.
Actually just started my first blast. I know I should start slow, but I am jumping right to 300 mg/wk, lol. I figure it is not going to be my last blast, so I figure why not start slow and really figure things out. I got a PL meet in February and would like to go something like 530, 350 and 600 with wraps. Currently my best lifts are 491, 330 and 565, but I for sure have more on the bench at least.
Nice man. If you don’t have to worry about weight class, then test + dbol is the way.