[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
Basically bendthebar wants everything except for freakish size, contortionist flexibility, a fat wallet, and mad bitches.
No disrespect man but I don’t believe most of the Bruce Lee hysteria. It seems that most of his stories are just that, stories. He doesn’t have hardly any proven fights or anything of that nature. If you want guys who as you say aren’t “all show no go”, it’s strange you look to actors as opposed to proven athletes. Evander Holyfield, Junior Dos Santos, Alexander Karelin, Le’Ron Mcclain, Derek Poundstone are all big guys who have proven abilities, not just a rumor mill of what they are supposedly capable of.
In the end the only way to truly get great at something is to do it. If you want to be a good arm wrestler practice it, if you want to learn how to fight, hit up a boxing/muay thai/mma gym. Find out what it is you want to be good at and consistently work hard at it.
Sorry for the Bruce Lee rant but I see his name pop up on here routinely and I find it hard to believe anyone with extensive fight knowledge/experience would believe some of his amazing feats.
^agree it’s no different than any other skill. Take someone that sucks at baseball, pack on 40 lbs. of muscle, and they will still suck at baseball. Pack on 40lbs of muscle on those exeptionally talented at baseball such as Bonds, and violla you have GOAT.
Weightlifting alone supplements the skill of a sport or activity such as baseball and arm wrestling, does not make someone more skilled at it like has been said many times in this thread
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
I don’t want to look like Bruce Lee. I just want to be able to hit harder, hit faster, and be able to have applicable strength in the real world.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
Basically bendthebar wants everything except for freakish size, contortionist flexibility, a fat wallet, and mad bitches.[/quote]
Actually I want all of that. But you can’t have everything you want right?
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
Basically bendthebar wants everything except for freakish size, contortionist flexibility, a fat wallet, and mad bitches.[/quote]
Actually I want all of that. But you can’t have everything you want right?
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Depends. How many genie lamps have you found thus far?
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
Basically bendthebar wants everything except for freakish size, contortionist flexibility, a fat wallet, and mad bitches.[/quote]
Actually I want all of that. But you can’t have everything you want right?
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Depends. How many genie lamps have you found thus far?[/quote]
rofl +1
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
Basically bendthebar wants everything except for freakish size, contortionist flexibility, a fat wallet, and mad bitches.[/quote]
Actually I want all of that. But you can’t have everything you want right?
[/quote]
Depends. How many genie lamps have you found thus far?[/quote]
None hahahah
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
I don’t want to look like Bruce Lee. I just want to be able to hit harder, hit faster, and be able to have applicable strength in the real world.
[/quote]
You don’t think Jay Cutler or any other pro bodybuilder doesn’t have applicable strength in the real world?
I’ve essentially trained hard 5-6x a week with a bodypart split for two years, and let me tell you, picking up stuff that the average person finds ‘heavy’, of any shape or form, is pretty damned easy.
You don’t think that using 115lb dumbbells in a seated DB press won’t give you applicable strength?
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
I don’t want to look like Bruce Lee. I just want to be able to hit harder, hit faster, and be able to have applicable strength in the real world.
[/quote]
You don’t think Jay Cutler or any other pro bodybuilder doesn’t have applicable strength in the real world?
I’ve essentially trained hard 5-6x a week with a bodypart split for two years, and let me tell you, picking up stuff that the average person finds ‘heavy’, of any shape or form, is pretty damned easy.
You don’t think that using 115lb dumbbells in a seated DB press won’t give you applicable strength?
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Hmmm, come to think of it, just out of curiosity, I decided to statically hold a 35 lb dumbbell at it’s weakest point(the right arm makes a right angle) and I couldn’t hold it for more than 5 seconds. So, with that said, maybe all I need to do is train the isometrics at different points of the lift. That still leaves training for speed and power in fighting, which absolutely cannot be done with “pump” training, as per my experience.
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You weigh 170…and want to look like Bruce Lee…yet want to be a really good fighter…but don’t train for it.
I’m confused.
This thread could have been hilarious. [/quote]
I don’t want to look like Bruce Lee. I just want to be able to hit harder, hit faster, and be able to have applicable strength in the real world.
[/quote]
You don’t think Jay Cutler or any other pro bodybuilder doesn’t have applicable strength in the real world?
I’ve essentially trained hard 5-6x a week with a bodypart split for two years, and let me tell you, picking up stuff that the average person finds ‘heavy’, of any shape or form, is pretty damned easy.
You don’t think that using 115lb dumbbells in a seated DB press won’t give you applicable strength?
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I would love to get where you’re at though. But six days a week is too much to train and I speak from experience as I was pretty stubborn about it before I switched to 4 days a week.
This thread can’t be serious.
It is. In the end, all I really want is “go” with the “show,”, in the form of applicable strength, such as carrying a 50 lb box with one hand or something like that, and to be able to hit as hard as possible,as fast as possible, and be able to move as quick as possible. I’d love to be able to push those abilities to its fullest and be as huge as a bodybuilder(being shredded, dry and hard is good for anything across the board), but that just can’t happen imo. I’m willing to listen to different opinions though provided they bring facts and/or training advice.
For a real world example, Flex Wheeler practiced martial arts throughout his bodybuilding career. I believe he also had 3xbw squat. Not saying you can be like Flex but he is an example of what you’re talking about.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
For a real world example, Flex Wheeler practiced martial arts throughout his bodybuilding career. I believe he also had 3xbw squat. Not saying you can be like Flex but he is an example of what you’re talking about.[/quote]
True, but he took steroids. No offense to that, but I know a lot of people who took steroids that had a strength decrease once off it, but after 1-2 years training, SURPASSED whatever best PR they had with ease. One of my friends routinely squats 5 plates as if it was a feather, and he’s been clean for 4 years now.
Since the thread is still alive, it really would be a matter of getting enough nutrition in. I need roughly 4000 calories a day just on my weight-training regiment - mainly for just maintenance. Add in martial arts training 5 days a week for 3-4 hours at a time and you easily are looking at upwards of 10,000 calories daily.
I guess it also depends on what you mean by “bodybuilder” - If you mean like Olympia bodybuilder - then we are talking 10,000 calories for just weight-training and adding mass. or thats just a ballpark number using Jay Cutler and a few other eating habits of heavy weights.
Course I think my numbers are a little inflated because obviously you aren’t going to weight-train as much as me. So lets say 4-6000 calories (on training days with both: martial arts * bodybuilding). If I guess that youll weight-train at least 3 times a week to get “bodybuilder big” - and do martial arts training 4-5 times a week for 2-4 hours at a time. Not including, cardio, running, or other training.
Either way, good luck ~ its ambitious and I’m sure it will be a challenge. A lot of people like to go on forums and “talk” but don’t go 110% into it so its usually all talk. Hopefully this is something you actually want to do and your willing to put the time effort and energy into it.
[quote]bendthebar wrote:
It is. In the end, all I really want is “go” with the “show,”, in the form of applicable strength, such as carrying a 50 lb box with one hand or something like that, and to be able to hit as hard as possible,as fast as possible, and be able to move as quick as possible. I’d love to be able to push those abilities to its fullest and be as huge as a bodybuilder(being shredded, dry and hard is good for anything across the board), but that just can’t happen imo. I’m willing to listen to different opinions though provided they bring facts and/or training advice. [/quote]
how about start training instead of debating in a forum a thing you PLAN to start? you think too much.