[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
then more successful at 3pm[/quote]
Wouldn’t keep an eye on him.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Race isn’t even close to being the biggest stumbling block for blacks. You will never close the achievment gap with a 70.7% illegitimacy rate (26.6 for non-hispanic whites). Ever.
Don’t you think you’re putting the cart before the horse?
No.
Long live conviction.
And its close ally ,the closed mind.
What are you talking about? Broken homes have a huge impact on negative social stats.
Yes they do.As race and economics have a huge impact on why the rate of broken homes is so much higher in certain populations.
what I was referring to is how you cannot cherry pick a particular issue without adressing the reasons and causation of that particular state of affairs.
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Ahem. You do realize the illegitimacy rate has become FAR, FAR, FAR worse, and not better, right?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
I’m speechless.
I honestly didn’t know people actually thought like that until I read this thread.
I really still can’t believe it.[/quote]
That’s one hell of an argument from you both. Maybe one of you fine gentleman can enlighten me. I’m trying to be pretty open minded here, but the race card has been pulled so many times in front of my own eyes when nothing was wrong, that I think pulling the race card in itself is a little tired.
In 1940, 86 percent of black children were born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate among blacks was about 15 percent. Today, 31 percent of black children are born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate hovers around 70 percent.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4840
White men are nowhere near the obstacles to succes that absent black fathers are. Harsh reality.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Race isn’t even close to being the biggest stumbling block for blacks. You will never close the achievment gap with a 70.7% illegitimacy rate (26.6 for non-hispanic whites). Ever.
Don’t you think you’re putting the cart before the horse?
No.
Long live conviction.
And its close ally ,the closed mind.
What are you talking about? Broken homes have a huge impact on negative social stats.
Yes they do.As race and economics have a huge impact on why the rate of broken homes is so much higher in certain populations.
what I was referring to is how you cannot cherry pick a particular issue without adressing the reasons and causation of that particular state of affairs.
Ahem. You do realize the illegitimacy rate has become FAR, FAR, FAR worse, and not better, right?[/quote]
Ahem, do you realize that doesn’t change what he wrote?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
I’m speechless.
I honestly didn’t know people actually thought like that until I read this thread.
I really still can’t believe it.
That’s one hell of an argument from you both. Maybe one of you fine gentleman can enlighten me. I’m trying to be pretty open minded here, but the race card has been pulled so many times in front of my own eyes when nothing was wrong, that I think pulling the race card in itself is a little tired.[/quote]
I already answered you directly. Why did you respond to this post and not that one?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…I’m going to be less successful at 11am…
Shit, can he be more successful considering his background? I don’t see someone wanting to be like Puff daddy or Jay Z as being a negative, especially since both men are educated and have basically changed the face of music and even fashion.[/quote]
Be careful though…they might jack your wallet.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The fact that you are still sticking to some fantasy where most black people dress ridiculously for job interviews and THAT is why we have been held back is too ridiculous for words.[/quote]
This phenomena is not exclusive to black culture. There are just as many white people who are held back by their inability to speak proper English or dress appropriately for specific occasions.
As much as I dislike this I also recognize the fact that humans are superficial creatures. We don’t like speaking to idiots; we respect “professionalism”. I think any person that can obtain a job is capable realizing these bare minimums of human convention.
oops!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Race isn’t even close to being the biggest stumbling block for blacks. You will never close the achievment gap with a 70.7% illegitimacy rate (26.6 for non-hispanic whites). Ever.
Don’t you think you’re putting the cart before the horse?
No.
Long live conviction.
And its close ally ,the closed mind.
What are you talking about? Broken homes have a huge impact on negative social stats.
Yes they do.As race and economics have a huge impact on why the rate of broken homes is so much higher in certain populations.
what I was referring to is how you cannot cherry pick a particular issue without adressing the reasons and causation of that particular state of affairs.
Ahem. You do realize the illegitimacy rate has become FAR, FAR, FAR worse, and not better, right?[/quote]
Yep.And you do know that social situations and injustices have an inertia that can be measured in many generations and not in a few years?
oops…again.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Race isn’t even close to being the biggest stumbling block for blacks. You will never close the achievment gap with a 70.7% illegitimacy rate (26.6 for non-hispanic whites). Ever.
Don’t you think you’re putting the cart before the horse?
No.
Long live conviction.
And its close ally ,the closed mind.
What are you talking about? Broken homes have a huge impact on negative social stats.
Yes they do.As race and economics have a huge impact on why the rate of broken homes is so much higher in certain populations.
what I was referring to is how you cannot cherry pick a particular issue without adressing the reasons and causation of that particular state of affairs.
Ahem. You do realize the illegitimacy rate has become FAR, FAR, FAR worse, and not better, right?
Ahem, do you realize that doesn’t change what he wrote?[/quote]
Ahem, actually it does. If the economic/educational opportunities had become worse for blacks, then he’d have had a point.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
In 1940, 86 percent of black children were born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate among blacks was about 15 percent. Today, 31 percent of black children are born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate hovers around 70 percent.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4840
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That word always bothered me “illegitimacy”. Just cause a father doesn’t live with the mother does not make a child illegitimate. I know many fathers who are raising there kids while not in a relationship with the mother.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
oops![/quote]
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH BOYEEEEEEEEEEEE.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I think any person that can obtain a job is capable realizing these bare minimums of human convention.[/quote]
Apparently not. We are being specifically told that blacks in majority are not this intelligent and that most of them dress like they are going to a strip club when they go to a job interview. I live in a pretty big city and have frat brothers who still work on one local college campus (meaning I am around that age group a lot). I have yet to see anything like that and this is a majority black college.
I refuse to believe things are so different in Philly that every black person is dressing ignorantly for job interviews and that alone is why they are being held back.
I think some people truly just make shit up and stick to it.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Race isn’t even close to being the biggest stumbling block for blacks. You will never close the achievment gap with a 70.7% illegitimacy rate (26.6 for non-hispanic whites). Ever.
Don’t you think you’re putting the cart before the horse?
No.
Long live conviction.
And its close ally ,the closed mind.
What are you talking about? Broken homes have a huge impact on negative social stats.
Yes they do.As race and economics have a huge impact on why the rate of broken homes is so much higher in certain populations.
what I was referring to is how you cannot cherry pick a particular issue without adressing the reasons and causation of that particular state of affairs.
Ahem. You do realize the illegitimacy rate has become FAR, FAR, FAR worse, and not better, right?
Yep.And you do know that social situations and injustices have an inertia that can be measured in many generations and not in a few years?
[/quote]
You do realize that the rates exploded during the 1960’s and climb to this day, right?
Edit: Meaning this crap hasn’t been going backwards sends the end of segregation, the start of Aff. Action, social party programs, etc. It has skyrocketed! Not reversed!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Hmmm…I’m going to be less successful at 11am…
Shit, can he be more successful considering his background? I don’t see someone wanting to be like Puff daddy or Jay Z as being a negative, especially since both men are educated and have basically changed the face of music and even fashion.[/quote]
What sad is that regardless of how succesful they are…some people still paint a negative picture of them…interesting,huh?
[quote]Qaash wrote:
Sloth wrote:
In 1940, 86 percent of black children were born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate among blacks was about 15 percent. Today, 31 percent of black children are born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate hovers around 70 percent.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4840
That word always bothered me “illegitimacy”. Just cause a father doesn’t live with the mother does not make a child illegitimate. I know many fathers who are raising there kids while not in a relationship with the mother.[/quote]
So do I and I am glad you brought that up.
Marriage as a whole seems to be losing favor in the younger generation. I personally don’t really care to be married myself. that doesn’t mean any kid I have will be void of having a father.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
btm62 wrote:
As far as rap and hip hop and that whole culture. It is SHIT!
The whole culture is shit?! Oh goodness, I don’t even know how to respond to that.[/quote]
Yes, to clear things up for the retarded, I consider the rap and hip hop culture to be shit. Does that help you out with your response?
I am a sheltered Northerner. Being from NYC has not prepared me for what I’m reading here…thank you for the eye opener