[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
X, if my posts are so weak, why have others responded to me in a respectful and helpful manner? If my posts are so weak, how have I already been able to have intelligent discussions with other posters concerning various bodybuilding topics? If my posts are so weak, how come you are the only person to ever have said as such? It just baffles me that you can claim that you never say anything insulting to anyone and then turn around and make an underhanded comment like that. You have zero respect for most on this site and yet complain that none respect you.[/quote]
Didnât Bauber correct you about your whole âhe didnât dirty bulkâ thing?
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
?BIO 403 - Vertebrate Histology
?BIO 404 - Pharmacology I
?BIO 405 - Pharmacology II
?BIO 406 - Introduction to Toxicology
?BIO 407 - Biology of Cancer
?BIO 409 - Human Embryology
?BIO 410 - Human Gross Anatomy
?BIO 412 - Medical Physiology I
?BIO 413 - Medical Physiology II
?BIO 414 - General Microbiology
?BIO 415 - Immunology
?BIO 416 - Immunology and Virology Lab
?BIO 418 - Infectious Diseases
?BIO 419 - DNA Forensics
?BIO 417 - Medical Microbiology
?BIO 422 - Virology
?BIO 425 - Human Neuroanatomy
?BIO 426 - Mitochondrial Genomics
I had to pick one of these bad boys. Why they had these as required electives for exercise science degree Iâll never know but it was a bitch ha. The pre-med kids had to take 15 hrs of the above list so we had it a little better than them. [/quote]
Good work.
My pre-med and biochem was also pretty hairy. Undergrad can be rough.
However, nothing really prepared us for the lifestyle of having the equivalent o 30 hours thrown at us in a week plus exams.
it is why many students don['t have jobs in those schoolsâŠno time.
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Yeah, I lurked on here for about a year or so before joining. So, Iâve had the pleasure of reading his posts for about 3 years or so. Lucky me.[/quote]
OKâŠbut when someone like me who has done what he did tells you that he did bulk up the sameâŠyou argued and complained for pages as if I was wrong.
@X-Ha, didnât he also say that I came to the âexact conclusion that he was trying to get acrossâ? And, for the record, I said that he didnât advocate âdirty bulkingâ, not that he had never done it in his lifting career. You can go and look, as I know thatâs what I said. So, really, outside of that lame attempt at calling me out, X, Bauber agreed with about everything I said. Good try, though.
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
X, if my posts are so weak, why have others responded to me in a respectful and helpful manner? If my posts are so weak, how have I already been able to have intelligent discussions with other posters concerning various bodybuilding topics? If my posts are so weak, how come you are the only person to ever have said as such? It just baffles me that you can claim that you never say anything insulting to anyone and then turn around and make an underhanded comment like that. You have zero respect for most on this site and yet complain that none respect you.[/quote]
Didnât Bauber correct you about your whole âhe didnât dirty bulkâ thing?
You seem wrong often.[/quote]
You seem angry often. [/quote]
Iâm notâŠwhich is why your perception of what you read is an issue,
I responded to StuâŠand it took 5-8 people shouting me down in the process when none of that was needed.
Donât assume you know my emotions from words on a page.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I was told my education is not an objective means for determining my knowledge base.
[/quote]
Nope, you were told:
There are people on this site who are friendly, humble, and knowledgeable as can be verified via objective means (PL meets, BBing contests, Degrees and Certifications in Nutrition, Kinesiology and fields specific to what gets discussed, not 'Well, Biology is Biology") and they actually create a wonderful collective source of information, support, and a friendly atmosphere.
But YOU decided (whether consciously or not) to read into it as the verification of other peoplesâ credentials was a questioning of the validity of yours.
Imagine that, misconstruing what someone else wrote so you can get all uppity and start talking about yourself. That almost never happens -lol
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
?BIO 403 - Vertebrate Histology
?BIO 404 - Pharmacology I
?BIO 405 - Pharmacology II
?BIO 406 - Introduction to Toxicology
?BIO 407 - Biology of Cancer
?BIO 409 - Human Embryology
?BIO 410 - Human Gross Anatomy
?BIO 412 - Medical Physiology I
?BIO 413 - Medical Physiology II
?BIO 414 - General Microbiology
?BIO 415 - Immunology
?BIO 416 - Immunology and Virology Lab
?BIO 418 - Infectious Diseases
?BIO 419 - DNA Forensics
?BIO 417 - Medical Microbiology
?BIO 422 - Virology
?BIO 425 - Human Neuroanatomy
?BIO 426 - Mitochondrial Genomics
I had to pick one of these bad boys. Why they had these as required electives for exercise science degree Iâll never know but it was a bitch ha. The pre-med kids had to take 15 hrs of the above list so we had it a little better than them. [/quote]
Good work.
My pre-med and biochem was also pretty hairy. Undergrad can be rough.
However, nothing really prepared us for the lifestyle of having the equivalent o 30 hours thrown at us in a week plus exams.
it is why many students don['t have jobs in those schoolsâŠno time.[/quote]
Donât misunderstand me, I wasnât trying to compare my undergrad work to that of a post grad med student, however, I think you are not giving enough credit to the scope of some undergrad anatomy classes if you think the deepest they go is to label the temporal bone, the temporal bone. Both my roommates were pre-med, then one went dental and one went D.O. so I have some grasp of the time commitment from watching them and helping them study on occasion.
Also, Bauber has since stated that he absolutely would not tell lifters to âdirty bulkâ, and would promote a controlled clean bulk. So, he really tells others to do things the exact opposite of what you tell them to.
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote: @X-Ha, didnât he also say that I came to the âexact conclusion that he was trying to get acrossâ? And, for the record, I said that he didnât advocate âdirty bulkingâ, not that he had never done it in his lifting career. You can go and look, as I know thatâs what I said. So, really, outside of that lame attempt at calling me out, X, Bauber agreed with about everything I said. Good try, though.[/quote]
You actually did say that he did not do it my wayâŠand my way was simply to work on size for years and get those meals in. âDirtyâ for me may not be âdirtyâ for someone else. Eating âdirtyâ wasnât the goal. Gaining tons of muscle wasâŠan it worked.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man, this thread blew up today.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.[/quote]
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man, this thread blew up today.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.[/quote]
Fair enoughâŠbut these threads exist to keep X out of the BB forum.
I also would encourage you not to read these threads is you get offended.
You seem like a nice fellow, and I appreciate your advice to us.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I was told my education is not an objective means for determining my knowledge base.
[/quote]
Nope, you were told:
There are people on this site who are friendly, humble, and knowledgeable as can be verified via objective means (PL meets, BBing contests, Degrees and Certifications in Nutrition, Kinesiology and fields specific to what gets discussed, not 'Well, Biology is Biology") and they actually create a wonderful collective source of information, support, and a friendly atmosphere.
But YOU decided (whether consciously or not) to read into it as the verification of other peoplesâ credentials was a questioning of the validity of yours.
Imagine that, misconstruing what someone else wrote so you can get all uppity and start talking about yourself. That almost never happens -lol
S[/quote]
LOL.
What baffles me is that you spend this much time worrying about my âattitudeâ.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man, this thread blew up today.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.[/quote]
@flipcollar-You say you donât have a dog in this fight. Then you pretty much go and take Xâs side and say that everyone else looks much worse than him at this point. I disagree. I think X looks plenty bad and so do many others. I find it funny when a straggler like you pops into these threads to take Xâs side and acts like we are all ignorant and out to get him. Really, if X was as innocent as you make him out to be, how could so many find fault with him? Just because he helped you years back doesnât make him right in how he acts, man.
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote: @flipcollar-You say you donât have a dog in this fight. Then you pretty much go and take Xâs side and say that everyone else looks much worse than him at this point. I disagree. I think X looks plenty bad and so do many others. I find it funny when a straggler like you pops into these threads to take Xâs side and acts like we are all ignorant and out to get him. Really, if X was as innocent as you make him out to be, how could so many find fault with him? Just because he helped you years back doesnât make him right in how he acts, man. [/quote]
Otherwise good threads might have you thundering through them.[/quote]
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man, this thread blew up today.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.[/quote]
Otherwise good threads might have you thundering through them.[/quote]
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man, this thread blew up today.
I just want to throw this out there, in case guys like Smashing Weights, Steven Alex, Saiyan, Utah, havenât realized it yet:
You guys come off FAR worse than X at this point. Itâs not even close. Youâre nitpicking the fuck out of every little thing he says. Itâs truly ridiculous how you guys want to pick apart his school curriculum. Is it really a worthwhile argument to keep up? You guys sound like fucking babies. I seriously challenge all of you guys to stop posting for 2 days, then read your own parts in this thread, and tell me that you honestly believe youâre on the right side of this.
I have absolutely no dog in this fight, which is why Iâm posting. I have enjoyed posts from pretty much everyone participating in this thread in the past. X is one of 2 guys I remember reading since 2003 that are still here. The other is Thibs. I got a lot out of Xâs posts for years, and while you guys can say he doesnât help anyone, I can assure you that his posting style, and specific advice helped me. His progress inspired me in part because he went from a tiny dude to huge. And I respected the fact that he made his progress while balancing rigorous course work, followed by his current career. I think Saiyan posts some of the funniest shit on the internet, apart from this thread, and I also respect his profession. Utah is generally level-headed and sensible, and heâs also clearly done well outside the gym. And yet you all seem to suck at life in this and other related threads.
I hope this dies soon, itâs not good for anyone here.[/quote][/quote]
So finally agreeâŠthank godâŠthe rest of the forum is safe from you now.
We are all damaged but maybe the rest can get out alive.