What Naturals are Truly Capable of...

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Hahahaha

“I am superior to most if not all of the trolls in all the land…I am smarter and more swoollz than yew”

“Can we more on now?”[/quote]
Is that an intentional typo?
Seems fitting lol[/quote]

AUTO-COOOOORRRRREEEEEECCCCCTTTTTTTT!!!

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Dental and med school test you ability to learn massive amounts of info in very short periods of time.
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That’s impressive, but it’s more impressive if your natty. I mean, respect for those who get through it memory assisted, but it takes something away from the accomplishment IMO.[/quote]
You’re right. What I was thinking? Now I’m 1/2 natty like Matt Ogus.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Dental and med school test you ability to learn massive amounts of info in very short periods of time.
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That’s impressive, but it’s more impressive if your natty. I mean, respect for those who get through it memory assisted, but it takes something away from the accomplishment IMO.[/quote]

LOl at there being nothing I can write that won’t evoke some childish response from guys like you.

Professor X, please stop trying to equate your DDS to an MD.
Everyone gets it, you do some of the same schooling and have an understanding of A&P as well as Bio and Phys.
It’s just not on the same level as an MD.
Just like their knowledge of teeth isn’t on the same level as yours.
No one is saying you don’t know anything about body systems.
Can we move on now?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Dental and med school test you ability to learn massive amounts of info in very short periods of time.
[/quote]

That’s impressive, but it’s more impressive if your natty. I mean, respect for those who get through it memory assisted, but it takes something away from the accomplishment IMO.[/quote]

LOl at there being nothing I can write that won’t evoke some childish response from guys like you.[/quote]

“Guys like you”?

WTF? Just because I’m part Welsh you think than means something? There was a time when “people like me” couldn’t walk down the street without getting attacked by guys with battle axes and getting pillaged. You should think about that.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

I’m certain you did. I’d certainly spend my summers doing the same if I had decided to pursue medical school.
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LOL at “summers”. This was the first two weeks of school.

LOL!!!

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prior to enrollment… I anticipated having to post this[/quote]

What are you talking about? This was our fist exam taken on week two of school.[/quote]
If I decided to pursue medical school, I teach and train myself with everything I could get my hands on prior to my enrollment.[/quote]

That’s great…but I knew many guys who did that who still didn’t graduate.

The amount of info would make that near impossible to do.

Dental and med school test you ability to learn massive amounts of info in very short periods of time.

Like I said, I don’t see most of the anatomical names we learned on any average skull chart found on the internet. We had less than two weeks to cram all of these names into our heads and then dump the info to add even more huge lumps of info.

Undergrad is nothing like that.[/quote]
Fair enough. I don’t know why keep bringing up undergrad though lol. I already cleared the air with that.[/quote]

Because I was told my education wasn’t an objective means to match others here.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Professor X, please stop trying to equate your DDS to an MD.
Everyone gets it, you do some of the same schooling and have an understanding of A&P as well as Bio and Phys.
It’s just not on the same level as an MD.
Just like their knowledge of teeth isn’t on the same level as yours.
No one is saying you don’t know anything about body systems.
Can we move on now?[/quote]

Not trying to do anything but write the truth. Why does that bother you? You spend half your time making jokes on most threads yet want to hold me to some standard of posts.

Try not adding to the nonsense and then you can tell other people what to do.

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
I really like the scientific side of bodybuilding just as much as the actual training. Now i know these thread normally turn to shit really quick, but im hopping to have a decent discussion with minimal flaming.

this is a collection of charts/information taken from some of the most knowledgeable and respected people in the scientific side of bodybuilding. two of these people based their finding on numbers taken from top pro natural bodybuilders, the genetic elite.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=lyle%20mcdonald%20genetic%20muscular%20potential&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bodyrecomposition.com%2Fmuscle-gain%2Fwhats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html&ei=an2YUZ_0CMaiigevnYDYDg&usg=AFQjCNG5pbGMiygvVmI0hdIhjKNfNR8aDQ

when these debates come up, the side that is against these findings usually has no solid argument. all they do is make up hypothetical situations or use extreme examples to try and prove their point. yet no one has been able to post a picture of 1 natural bodybuilder who has largely exceeded these charts. so until someone does your arguing nothing but semantics.

above is frank zane 3 times mr O.
stats

  • height 5’9
  • contest weight 185lb
  • off season weight 205lb

now this is someone with elite genetics and access to just about any drug he wanted of that era. yet we have people on here who claim to have natural powerlifting friends who are 5’7, 225lb and walk around at 6% bodyfat. FUCKING PLEASE…[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

I’m certain you did. I’d certainly spend my summers doing the same if I had decided to pursue medical school.
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LOL at “summers”. This was the first two weeks of school.

LOL!!!

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prior to enrollment… I anticipated having to post this[/quote]

What are you talking about? This was our fist exam taken on week two of school.[/quote]
If I decided to pursue medical school, I teach and train myself with everything I could get my hands on prior to my enrollment.[/quote]

That’s great…but I knew many guys who did that who still didn’t graduate.

The amount of info would make that near impossible to do.

Dental and med school test you ability to learn massive amounts of info in very short periods of time.

Like I said, I don’t see most of the anatomical names we learned on any average skull chart found on the internet. We had less than two weeks to cram all of these names into our heads and then dump the info to add even more huge lumps of info.

Undergrad is nothing like that.[/quote]
Fair enough. I don’t know why keep bringing up undergrad though lol. I already cleared the air with that.[/quote]

Because I was told my education wasn’t an objective means to match others here.[/quote]

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

If I decided to pursue medical school, I teach and train myself with everything I could get my hands on prior to my enrollment.[/quote]

Not to totally derail but the summer before med school should be spent having fun and relaxing. You won’t have that opportunity again for a long time!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Try not adding to the nonsense and then you can tell other people what to do.[/quote]
Try not adding to the nonsense and then you can tell me what to do.

I make these jokes because it is painfully obvious that 99% of your posts cannot be taken seriously.

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

If I decided to pursue medical school, I teach and train myself with everything I could get my hands on prior to my enrollment.[/quote]

Not to totally derail but the summer before med school should be spent having fun and relaxing. You won’t have that opportunity again for a long time![/quote]
I see your point. I have completely different plans anyway, so it’s all good.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

I only stated that further clarification was necessary. Chill.

The checklist for the first exam included
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I am not sure why you posted this. Our very first exam was identifying the more than 500 different parts of anatomy of the human skull. It was more in depth than the list you threw up.

It seems difficult to admit that a doctor has more training in anatomy and phys than any undergrad student.

Why?[/quote]
Ha sure it was

So what is the argument here? Are we arguing over whether or not someone with a exercise science degree and applicable endorsements has as at least as much knowledge exercise as a dentist? Or are we saying they have as much knowledge about the human body in general?

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Try not adding to the nonsense and then you can tell other people what to do.[/quote]
Try not adding to the nonsense and then you can tell me what to do.

I make these jokes because it is painfully obvious that 99% of your posts cannot be taken seriously.[/quote]

Then y9ou don’t understand them.

I am not sure why you seem to think I am not being serious.

I was told something false and responded to it. Had that been it, this would have been done pages ago.

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
So what is the argument here? Are we arguing over whether or not someone with a exercise science degree and applicable endorsements has as at least as much knowledge exercise as a dentist? Or are we saying they have as much knowledge about the human body in general? [/quote]
I wasn’t arguing either at all

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

If I decided to pursue medical school, I teach and train myself with everything I could get my hands on prior to my enrollment.[/quote]

Not to totally derail but the summer before med school should be spent having fun and relaxing. You won’t have that opportunity again for a long time![/quote]
I see your point. I have completely different plans anyway, so it’s all good.[/quote]

Did i read correctly that you are a mech eng? I was a few credits from graduating in Mech but had one of those life changing moments that made me pursue medical school. I never found med as hard as engineering in terms of subject matter (with the exception of biochem maybe), it’s just the INSANE volume. Basically learned my entire Exercise science undergrad in less than 2 weeks. I can only imagine it gets worse but I left shortly after that!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

I only stated that further clarification was necessary. Chill.

The checklist for the first exam included
…[/quote]

I am not sure why you posted this. Our very first exam was identifying the more than 500 different parts of anatomy of the human skull. It was more in depth than the list you threw up.

It seems difficult to admit that a doctor has more training in anatomy and phys than any undergrad student.

Why?[/quote]
Why is it so hard to clarify beyond a sentence? I was showing you what I wanted to see from you. Something that wasn’t vague.[/quote]

I just told you. It would take pages to list out what we covered on our first test.

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Gonna have to agree with this.

Ex: I find this manual covers the back and thorax sort of well, however it barely prepares you for dissection:

And that’s not even all of the dry-lab from unit 1! You then have to cover (at least) osteology and surface anatomy. THEN you should be pretty well versed at pointing out all of these structures from a radiology stand-point.

How much of this info the average doc retains? Who knows. Lol I left medical school last year to come home (family junk) and I can barely remember my origins and insertions. [/quote]

Thank you.

His list would be like what we would cover in a short review before the real lesson.

We had 15 bodies out and we had to locate the vagus nerve…along with 300 other random parts of internal anatomy that most people haven’t heard of. That was a test.[/quote]

Lolololololol
The vagus nerve is a damn large nerve insanely easy to identity and one that actually the general pop knows quite well

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
So what is the argument here? Are we arguing over whether or not someone with a exercise science degree and applicable endorsements has as at least as much knowledge exercise as a dentist? Or are we saying they have as much knowledge about the human body in general? [/quote]

Dude, I was told that I do not have a objective means for noting my education. I have been told that people here have knowledge in fields we discuss…as if I don’t.

That is the argument apparently…me being told I do not have the education or build to discuss bodybuilding on the same level as guys like Brick or Stu…which is ridiculous.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

Lolololololol
The vagus nerve is a damn large nerve insanely easy to identity and one that actually the general pop knows quite well[/quote]

“Cranial Nerve 10…cranial nerve X…‘XXX’…porn…hookers…VEGAS! Cranial Nerve 10 is the Vagus Nerve!”

My actual response to a prof’s oral exam in anatomy.