[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
Thank you for your response Trib, I now understand the Christian mind a little bit better. You are right, I am not going to fall to my knees and proclaim my faith in God, that is not why I asked. I have made my views on religion well known, and it will take a lot to change that. I was just looking for a little insight into what Christianity is all about.[/quote]
That’s not the Christian mind, that’s tirib. He doesn’t represent me, or BC, or anybody else.
When you say Christian mind, you are lumping 2.1 billion people in to the mind of tirib. Keep in mind that one guy does not represent us all. He is representing a Calvinist micro-sect of Christianity that most of the Christian world denounces as heretical and patently false.
Don’t worry, according him, I am not only going to hell too, but I’ll be holing the door open for you.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
Thank you for your response Trib, I now understand the Christian mind a little bit better. You are right, I am not going to fall to my knees and proclaim my faith in God, that is not why I asked. I have made my views on religion well known, and it will take a lot to change that. I was just looking for a little insight into what Christianity is all about.[/quote]
That’s not the Christian mind, that’s tirib. He doesn’t represent me, or BC, or anybody else.
When you say Christian mind, you are lumping 2.1 billion people in to the mind of tirib. Keep in mind that one guy does not represent us all. He is representing a Calvinist micro-sect of Christianity that most of the Christian world denounces as heretical and patently false.
Don’t worry, according him, I am not only going to hell too, but I’ll be holing the door open for you.
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I shall see you there. And, yes I do realize that his views are not necessarily those of most Christians. In fact, I have been reading that link he posted and if what that link says is correct, I do not really see how anybody, not a single person, could ever be considered worthy of entering heaven, if such a thing exists.
LOL!! Pat is a blast. Like I say. To the detail what I said was the unarguably majority view when this nation was launched. Sloth, a Catholic, fully accepts this. Because he cannot deny it without looking like a fool. Pat does deny it because… well… fill in the blanks.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:<<< if what that link says is correct, I do not really see how anybody, not a single person, could ever be considered worthy of entering heaven, if such a thing exists.[/quote]BINGO!!! None are. Christ alone is. He gives us HIS righteousness. Keep readin Doc. Like I say. I would have been just one face in a crowd at the first constitutional convention. Most people believed some close version of that link I gave you. OH YES THEY DID.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Quick on the draw there dearest Christopher. LOL! We are about to see folks why Catholics (big C) and historic non Catholics can never EVER be one big happy neo-ecumenical family. [/quote]
Because one of us is right and the other 40 thousand of us are wrong?[/quote]That would be about the average throughout history. The vaaast majority have always been wrong and the Lord always has his remnant that have not bowed the knee to Baal.
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Yes, the Catholic Church. Now come back to your Mother.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
LOL!! Pat is a blast. Like I say. To the detail what I said was the unarguably majority view when this nation was launched. Sloth, a Catholic, fully accepts this. Because he cannot deny it without looking like a fool. Pat does deny it because… well… fill in the blanks.[/quote]
What does the founding of this Nation have to do anything about anything?
Guys, the United Nations called me wanting to know if we here at PWI had found the answer to the OP. They’re stalling the press corps as best they can, but they’ll need our answer soon!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Guys, the United Nations called me wanting to know if we here at PWI had found the answer to the OP. They’re stalling the press corps as best they can, but they’ll need our answer soon![/quote]
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Guys, the United Nations called me wanting to know if we here at PWI had found the answer to the OP. They’re stalling the press corps as best they can, but they’ll need our answer soon![/quote]
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:What does the founding of this Nation have to do anything about anything?[/quote]People keep talking about how my beliefs are strange and fringe and not held by very many people which is true. They were though. When we were rising like a rocketship as a nation. They were. Go ahead Chris. Attempt to deny that. Sloth wrote:02-10-2012, 01:08 AM[quote]<<< Newsflash, there’s no more spiritually dead faith in this country than your beloved Calvinistic-Puritan-whatchamadoodle. Oh yes, Tirib, ‘your folks’ certainly were the face of early America, for the most part. But, look at their descendents now. Look at those folks’ country now. Eviscerated. Hollowed out. Their sons and daughters secularists. Where still religious, splintered into a multitude of squabbling denominations who’ve apparently arrived at different understandings, via sola scripture. >>>[/quote]You still do not understand dearest Christopher the IMMENSE implications of Sloth’s quite honorable (on one hand) concession here. Do you? He does. When we can get KingKai back and things fall into place by the providence of the Lord we will go into ecclesiology and authority. KingKai will probably side with you more than me which will be unfortunate and a drag for me because he is very VERY capable.(not to slight anyone else) It will be the most substantive and consequential religious discussion here yet and will draw many spectators. I am thinking that it will not be very much fun for me. I’d rather be united with everybody given the personal choice. It will also not change any of the usual players minds, but others will be watching and seeds will be planted.
[quote]twiceborn wrote:
The only true religion in the original meaning of the word is pure entheogenic drug use.
Religion literally means “to bring back into connection with”, and is fundamentally the same term as “Yoga”. That being said, NONE of the modern “isms” is actually practicing “religion” these days.
Fairytale books of the past and absurd, outdated systems of behavior are not religion, they’re cults.
All the modern “isms” stem from the original systems of spirituality which we refer to these days as indigenous shamanism. The original goal of every one of these “isms” was to allow small groups of initiates a chance to connect themselves directly to the wheelwork of nature and personally experience the hidden aspects of consciousness only available through drug use, ritualism, tantric dance, etc.
I’d wager that just about no one on this board has ever experienced any true religious practice. Raising this question here is like asking the blind to explain a sunrise.
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[quote]twiceborn wrote:
The only true religion in the original meaning of the word is pure entheogenic drug use.
Religion literally means “to bring back into connection with”, and is fundamentally the same term as “Yoga”. That being said, NONE of the modern “isms” is actually practicing “religion” these days.
Fairytale books of the past and absurd, outdated systems of behavior are not religion, they’re cults.
All the modern “isms” stem from the original systems of spirituality which we refer to these days as indigenous shamanism. The original goal of every one of these “isms” was to allow small groups of initiates a chance to connect themselves directly to the wheelwork of nature and personally experience the hidden aspects of consciousness only available through drug use, ritualism, tantric dance, etc.
I’d wager that just about no one on this board has ever experienced any true religious practice. Raising this question here is like asking the blind to explain a sunrise.
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I like you. [/quote]He likes you too. By the power vested in me as a T-Cell Alpha Sheriff I now pronounce you blind and deaf. Come on. That was at least kinda funny. No?
That’s right, vacuums are space… with nothing occupying it… proving that space is not defined by the objects that occupy it. You can have space without matter and there are, most definitely, universes without any matter in them whatsoever.
Whoa, back up there. I am not arguing that ‘God’ is the spark of anything. I am arguing that there is no ‘God’ and that, not only could everything come about naturally, but that a natural genesis is the more likely case.
I’m saying, because there is a higher spacial dimension to us, there is an infinite amount of dimensions on the same level as us, meaning there is an infinite amount of universes/timelines, each with their own ‘first cause’.
M-theory =/= string theory. That should pretty much be all that needs to be said here.
Uhhhhh, no. They are higher dimensions, as in, they are the same as the lower dimension, plus one factor of infinity. So, whichever dimension time is, whatever dimension is above it is time, plus one factor of infinity, or, infinite time. You have to agree with this whether you contend that God lives in this infinite-time dimension or not. God is the timeless, un-caused cause, yes? So, you must agree that there is at least one space that is above time, even if that space is literally God himself. You’re arguing against yourself here.
[quote]twiceborn wrote:
The only true religion in the original meaning of the word is pure entheogenic drug use.
Religion literally means “to bring back into connection with”, and is fundamentally the same term as “Yoga”. That being said, NONE of the modern “isms” is actually practicing “religion” these days.
Fairytale books of the past and absurd, outdated systems of behavior are not religion, they’re cults.
All the modern “isms” stem from the original systems of spirituality which we refer to these days as indigenous shamanism. The original goal of every one of these “isms” was to allow small groups of initiates a chance to connect themselves directly to the wheelwork of nature and personally experience the hidden aspects of consciousness only available through drug use, ritualism, tantric dance, etc.
I’d wager that just about no one on this board has ever experienced any true religious practice. Raising this question here is like asking the blind to explain a sunrise.
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I like you. [/quote]He likes you too. By the power vested in me as a T-Cell Alpha Sheriff I now pronounce you blind and deaf. Come on. That was at least kinda funny. No?
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[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:<<< Let them know we found it![/quote]Let them know YOU found it if this is your answer. Leave me outta this one.
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So when you repented did that include having your sense of humor removed?[/quote]I should have put the little =] at the end. That WAS meant to be lighthearted. Sorry.
[quote]KingKai25 wrote:<<< Definitely funny :)[/quote]Trib takes a bow and thanks the one man crowd.
I was jist talkin about you(positively). You’ll tell me not to, but I feel bad I just have not been able to answer you yet man. Though I certainly will. Good to see ya drop in.
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:<<< Let them know we found it![/quote]Let them know YOU found it if this is your answer. Leave me outta this one.
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So when you repented did that include having your sense of humor removed?[/quote]I should have put the little =] at the end. That WAS meant to be lighthearted. Sorry.
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That often times is pretty much the religion of psychologically ill, power-hungry sociopaths
I get that lanche was joking - but on this I don’t think I could even force a fake smile - and fake smiles are something that usually comes very easy to me and all my slipperiness
