What is the "bench press" of the back in your opinion?

Growing up a fat kid in a mountain town.

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This is also the exact reason why pulls aren’t programming in 5/3/1 the same way that the press, bench, squat and deadlift are programmed, which is one of those things that young trainees can’t grasp but anyone with some time under the iron goes “oh, well yeah, duh”.

Max weight rows always look like a circus act.

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100% the weighted pull up.

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It’s my favorite as well. The dumbell row feels great, but it’s hard to call it the “bench press” of the lats.

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I’ve been thinking about this and was going to suggest having a weighted pullup and holding at the top with the chin above the bar and not touching it for whatever period the judges want. But that makes no sense since that’s not anatomically locking out.

I wish we had some gymnasts around here. They would know.

100% agree

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Dips too ! The bench is still the “king” of lifts it seems… never “How much can you pull or lateral raise…”

The Broccoli heads are always on it

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Let’s say it was determined exactly what you said. What is the least opening lift that would be accepted as a legal lift? You do understand that the lifter needs at least one successful lift on each of the lifts to remain in the meet?

Now imagine a lifter well above 308lbs. What might he be required to lift to get credit for accomplishing a pullup?

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I know. Do you calculate BW+weight? How do you even calculate weight divisions for something like that? It gets too weird too fast.

So in conclusion it was interesting to imagine, but a stupid idea.

I’m not a powerlifter and initially approached this from a hypertrophy perspective, so meet rules weren’t a factor in my thoughts. That’ll learn me to shut up about stuff I don’t know.

Powerlifting has weight classes, so lifters in a weight category should already be around the same weight. Calculating bodyweight+added weight makes sense to me. Why couldn’t pullups integrate?

If I were to make the rules, and assuming I could find a method to get the heavier lifters to remain in the meet who could not do a single unweighted pullup, I would credit the lifter only the weight he added to his body. In other words, if the lifter could only accomplish a single pullup with no weight, I would credit him zero pounds, but he could remain in the meet. If he did his pullup with 25lbs added to himself, he would receive 25lbs on the pullup.

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How many 308lb people do you know that can do 1 pull up?

They could use assistance. You subtract the assisted weight from bodyweight to get the percentage of bodyweight lifted.

They would also know how to cheat to easily make that pullup become a kip up. I could do that without a swing before I ever lifted a single weight.

If you raise your hips before you start bending your arms you effectively lighten your bodyweight that you are pulling up.

What method would you employ that would result in a standardized amount of assistance for each individual lifter?

Something like this?

There’s an assisted pullup machine.

There sure is! Your intent is for a meet promoter to secure one of these for every meet, transport it, set it up and tear it down AND calibrate it from meet to meet to ensure fair and adequate judging?

I feel the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

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Walking a backyard perimeter in New Balances.

…will become an endangered species

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