What is Lean Body Mass?

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
What is lean body mass?[/quote]
good question

answer: PX would be about 240 lbs absolutely shredded contest shape…but he doesn’t want to look like you twinks[/quote]

What is really dumb…is that you don’t see me anywhere writing anything like that.

However, I don’t see your response for how I only gained 35lbs of muscle.

Wait…so because I don’t agree I only gained 35lbs…it must mean I think I will weigh as much as Lee Haney?

Sad attempts by you and friends. I could see if it was even funny at all…but it is like the comedy challenged patting themselves on the back.

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General question to all since this keeps getting tossed…how much muscle do I THINK I have that so many of you must make sure I think otherwise?

CT stated he thought around 216 potential contest weight 3 years ago. I’m bigger now…but apparently Brick is right that I need to drop to what…180? So I basically gained nothing for the past 15 years?

All of this seems like some attempt to act like gains weren’t made…because if professional personal trainers like CT who met me think widely different than internet RD’s like Brick…we should believe the RD.

I personally don’t care about spme exact wannabe number. It just seems odd the attempt to act like “I’m not as big as I think I am…”.

How big do I THINK I am?

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How much do you think you would weigh shredded?

If its not 240 (seems like you do not agree with that assessment) then what do you think?

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle?

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[quote]gregron wrote:

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle? [/quote]

Possibly because all of you are telling me how much muscle I THINK I have.

If they are so in tuned psychically, they can speak for Brick as well.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I personally don’t care about spme exact wannabe number. [/quote]

You obviously do ya spaz, hence why you are getting so bent out of shape with realistic BF% estimation and the elusive 35lbs of muscle BrickHead suggested lol.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
How much do you think you would weigh shredded?

If its not 240 (seems like you do not agree with that assessment) then what do you think?

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle? [/quote]
corrected myself to 225

250 lbs at 16% bf would mean he’d be greater than 220 lbs in contest shape
30 inch quads and 18 inch arms would mean he could compete against Platz

The biggest lie of all is calling me not funny. I’m so funny that I leave people gasping for breath, and strangers will stop to tell me I’m hilarious, even though they weren’t included in the conversation. No offense, bitch…but maybe spend more time on your jokes Proffyboo.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle? [/quote]

Possibly because all of you are telling me how much muscle I THINK I have.

If they are so in tuned psychically, they can speak for Brick as well.
[/quote]
I’ve never told you how much muscle you think/know you have? I’ve never given you a number.

Other people have said they think that “you’re not carrying as much muscle as you think you are”.

You disagree wth me/them but never say how much YOU know/think you have.

Why don’t you speak for yourself since you don’t like brick speaking for you, or anyone for that matter.

How much muscle are you carrying right now? (Roughly, I know you say your body is constantly gaining/losing muscle and fat so it could be different now than it was 12 hours ago)

Roughly, within 5 pounds or so, how much muscle are you carrying?

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I personally don’t care about spme exact wannabe number. [/quote]

You obviously do ya spaz, hence why you are getting so bent out of shape with realistic BF% estimation and the elusive 35lbs of muscle BrickHead suggested lol.[/quote]

Aaaah…so because I am pointing out what several people here have written they disagree with…that means I am trying to come up with some exact wannabe number?

Look, Brick is flat out wrong and misinformed if he thinks like he does. People like you do not want me challenging guys like that…or else you would simply shut up.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
How much do you think you would weigh shredded?

If its not 240 (seems like you do not agree with that assessment) then what do you think?

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle? [/quote]
corrected myself to 225

250 lbs at 16% bf would mean he’d be greater than 220 lbs in contest shape
30 inch quads and 18 inch arms would mean he could compete against Platz

The biggest lie of all is calling me not funny. I’m so funny that I leave people gasping for breath, and strangers will stop to tell me I’m hilarious, even though they weren’t included in the conversation. No offense, bitch…but maybe spend more time on your jokes Proffyboo. [/quote]

You are a funny guy dude, but you aint got nothing on Proffyboo (love the name).

His lunge video is comedy gold.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

Why do you keep asking other people why Brick thinks you’ve only gained 35 pounds of training induced muscle? [/quote]

Possibly because all of you are telling me how much muscle I THINK I have.

If they are so in tuned psychically, they can speak for Brick as well.
[/quote]
I’ve never told you how much muscle you think/know you have? I’ve never given you a number.

Other people have said they think that “you’re not carrying as much muscle as you think you are”.

You disagree wth me/them but never say how much YOU know/think you have.

Why don’t you speak for yourself since you don’t like brick speaking for you, or anyone for that matter.

How much muscle are you carrying right now? (Roughly, I know you say your body is constantly gaining/losing muscle and fat so it could be different now than it was 12 hours ago)

Roughly, within 5 pounds or so, how much muscle are you carrying?[/quote]

I already did speak for myself…you take a body fat test and calculate lean body mass to find how much you gained.

I have no desire to compete so contest weight means NOTHING…UNTIL SOME GUY MAKES UP A NUMBER SO OFF IT QUESTIONS HIS THINKING PROCESS.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:

30 inch quads and 18 inch arms would mean he could compete against Platz
[/quote]

More bullshit and lies.

I can see why many of you don’t want anyone questioning you.

Platz himself claimed 32" quads in contest shape.

Where the fuck did you get 30 from?

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IMO if PX were to work with someone like Meadows he would look phenomenal at 190-200.

JM could help him bring up his hams, rear delts and triceps while dieting down to very lean status.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

  1. Natural bodybuilding contests are not won based on who carries the most muscle mass or lean body mass.

  2. Wider hip structures are not considered ideal in bodybuilding even though those body types could carry more muscle and also have more lean body mass.[/quote]

True, if we’re going by any method to judge the limits of an unassisted yet aesthetically complete bodybuilder, but I don’t think anyone is. While I can only speak for my own experiences, I have never in my life known of a bodybuilder, competitive or not, who hasn’t been steadfast in his or her constant pursuit to build the maximum amount of muscle possible.[/quote]

That doesn’t mean anything. Bottom line, YOU DO NOT WIN NAT BB CONTESTS BASED ON WHO HAS THE MOST MUSCLE.

That means, yes, people who may not win could have had more muscle on them. To ignore that is NOT science.[/quote]

WTF.

No X, you are IN NO POSITION WHATSOEVER to casually dismiss Stu’s expertise on this topic.

[quote]Prof:

[quote]Stu wrote:
I daresay it’d be kind of silly to even presume that someone would be in the situation of intentionally not doing so. This would apply even moreso IMO in the case of unassisted individuals, who can’t afford to risk any leg up to a fellow competitor or gym rat.[/quote]

Uhm, spending more time dieting and competing alone could hold back gains.[/quote]

Uhm, they’ve chosen to be competing bodybuilders IN THE PRESENT and not at some theoretically, fully-maximized future date.

Besides, it’s not like that latter group is providing much, if any, meaningful data for the discussion.

edit - ok, this bottom part got misquoted but easy to know what both Stu & X wrote. ok, fixed it

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
“There’s a medical emergency on the plane. Do we have any doctors on board??” She says.

Do you answer yes? Only asking, cause, you know, you’re a dentist.[/quote]

“On a scale of 1-10, how SURE are you that the pain isn’t actually coming from your bicuspid?”

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Some perspective: Rusty Jeffers, 5’9.5", 250-260 pounds offseason. I GUESS he is something like 12% bodyfat here.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
General question to all since this keeps getting tossed…how much muscle do I THINK I have that so many of you must make sure I think otherwise?

CT stated he thought around 216 potential contest weight 3 years ago. I’m bigger now…but apparently Brick is right that I need to drop to what…180? So I basically gained nothing for the past 15 years?

All of this seems like some attempt to act like gains weren’t made…because if professional personal trainers like CT who met me think widely different than internet RD’s like Brick…we should believe the RD.

I personally don’t care about spme exact wannabe number. It just seems odd the attempt to act like “I’m not as big as I think I am…”.

How big do I THINK I am? [/quote]

I’m not an internet RD. I am actually employed full time by a nursing and rehabilitation center which involves no online RD work. The only online stuff I do is write diets via email for some guy’s personal training company and I would like to expand on this in the future.

I’m not sure what is implied by “online RD”. I mean, I have an undergrad in nutrition and and MS in nutrition with a concentration in exercise physiology, took a dietetic internship and I can provide my registration number to an employer.

Anyway, as I’ve said before, being an RD has absolutely nothing to do with being a person competent in writing diets for bodybuilders as nearly all coaches are not RD’s with some having ZERO formal academic credentials at all. Experience and knowledge is what counts in bodybuilding, not a certification, not a degree in exercise physiology or nutrition, and not a degree in pharmacy. If I were to hire someone for myself, I wouldn’t care what degree they have or how many Pub Med studies they can shuffle to and fro.

My RD credential has little to do with guessing or estimating your muscle gain and more to do with observation, common sense, and judgement.

I have learned A TON from CT and have spoken very highly of him and still refer my article favorites he wrote, but I don’t agree with his 216# stage weight estimation, and I don’t see what’s “wrong” with disagreeing. Just because someone is a successful personal trainer doesn’t mean they are infallible or make wrong predictions or come to the wrong conclusions sometimes. There are plenty of gurus, some who wrote for this site, who I believe are, for lack of better words, full of crap! One of them who started out his career on here boasts of walking around year round at 7% bodyfat. He and one of his employees say their muscle building programs result in 40 pound muscular gains in a first year of training. I don’t believe either of those claims despite their success in coaching! It could be misinterpretation on their part or it can simply be lying, but in either case I don’t believe them. If they said one of them walks around at 10 to 12% year round and that one can expect 15 to 25 pounds of muscle in a first year of training, perhaps A BIT more, I’d believe them.

You can go ahead thinking you gained 70 pounds of muscle. That’s fine. I just don’t believe you did, and that’s fine too. What else do you want from me or others, even those who disagree with me? What should they do exactly besides state they don’t believe me and provide reasons why?

You don’t like what I have to say, so why ask me questions?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
General question to all since this keeps getting tossed…how much muscle do I THINK I have that so many of you must make sure I think otherwise?

CT stated he thought around 216 potential contest weight 3 years ago. I’m bigger now…but apparently Brick is right that I need to drop to what…180? So I basically gained nothing for the past 15 years?

All of this seems like some attempt to act like gains weren’t made…because if professional personal trainers like CT who met me think widely different than internet RD’s like Brick…we should believe the RD.

I personally don’t care about spme exact wannabe number. It just seems odd the attempt to act like “I’m not as big as I think I am…”.

How big do I THINK I am? [/quote]

Well, think about it. 250 @ 16% bf would make you 235lbs @ 10%. Arnold competed at 230-240lbs. He was taller and bigger than you. Look at off season pro bodybuilders with those same numbers. They’re all much bigger than you. I’m having a hard time believing it from looking at your vids and pictures.

And for the 1000th time, nobody’s trying to convince you to lean down to contest shape. But if people can’t even tell whether your arms are flexed because of the high level of bf, while reading numbers like that…it just doesn’t add up.

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This thread delivered.

Although it needs more gifs, memes, and just more funny images.

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
PX is praying that the NPC forms another division like MPD, except you get to wear board shorts AND a tank top. He would totally own it.

Professor X, MTTD champion. That has a nice ring to it.

[/quote]

Have you seen his calves?[/quote]

Exactly, it would have to be the BBMMMSD for him to be willing to enter.

(Best Bathroom Most Muscular Mirror Shot Division).[/quote]

You’re right. LOL