[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[Still, too many writers who look like they don’t lift.
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Belichick doesn’t look like he could play one down of football, does that mean he’s a lousy coach?[/quote]
You picked a shitty example:
Bill Belichick was born in Nashville, Tennessee, and raised in Annapolis, Maryland, where his father Steve Belichick was an assistant football coach at the United States Naval Academy. He graduated from Annapolis High School in 1970. While there, he played American football and lacrosse, with the latter being his favorite sport.[2] He enrolled at Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts for a postgraduate year, with the intention of improving his grades and test scores in order to be admitted into a quality college.[3] The school would honor him forty years later by inducting him into its Athletics Hall of Honor in 2011.[4]
Belichick subsequently attended Wesleyan University in Middletown, Connecticut where he played center and tight end. In addition to being a member of the football team, he played lacrosse and squash, serving as the captain of the lacrosse team during his senior season.
I do believe he has played many downs of football, so yes I will listen to him since his coaching is aided by YEARS of exerience ON and off the field.
I get the mentality of not being excited about reading an article by someone who doesnt look like they lift, but that doesnt mean the articles are useless. Particularly the articles that essentially focus on one thing, like the dragon flag or the snatch for example. Obviously the author (Al Kavadlo) can do a dragon flag quite well, and knows how to progress up to them, so I’m perfectly fine with him writing an article on it.
Now, if these guys were writing about how to get to 250lbs of stage-condition muscle or dealift 900 pounds… Thats a different story
Hell, one could argue that Cressey barely looks like he lifts, but he pulls over 600lbs and is a great coach.
Anything that you can take from Hard to Easy will benefit you. Absorb with is useful, reject what is useless.
I played soccer, swam, did math team, academic bowl, and was all of 140 pounds as a senior in high school.[/quote]
Cool just curious I was always the over weight type kid (not compared to todays standards) but I played all the sports, football, baseball, soccer, basketball and read a shit ton of books. I was to slow for track.
I was 220 5’6" freshman year of HS and 220 5’10" my senior year.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I get the mentality of not being excited about reading an article by someone who doesnt look like they lift, but that doesnt mean the articles are useless. Particularly the articles that essentially focus on one thing, like the dragon flag or the snatch for example. Obviously the author (Al Kavadlo) can do a dragon flag quite well, and knows how to progress up to them, so I’m perfectly fine with him writing an article on the damn thing.
Now, if these guys were writing about how to get to 250lbs of stage-condition muscle or dealift 900 pounds… Thats a different story
Hell, one could argue that Cressey barely looks like he lifts, but he pulls over 600lbs and is a great coach.
Anything that you can take from Hard to Easy will benefit you. Absorb with is useful, reject what is useless.[/quote]
Well staying to my point I read what you wrote bc you like you lift and know what you are doing
Cressey lifts big so I’ll listen to him.
My point was more if I wondered onto a yoga website.
A lot of the writers from the past looked the part and had great info. CT is a big guy and an excellent lifter himself, Chris Sugart was fat and got himself lean and is an excellent writer as well, Hell Nate Green started off small and added a bunch of lean mass.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Well staying to my point I read what you wrote bc you like you lift and know what you are doing
Cressey lifts big so I’ll listen to him.
My point was more if I wondered onto a yoga website.
A lot of the writers from the past looked the part and had great info. CT is a big guy and an excellent lifter himself, Chris Sugart was fat and got himself lean and is an excellent writer as well, Hell Nate Green started off small and added a bunch of lean mass.[/quote]
True, but there are more than 7-8 authors on the site. Many of the older authors on the site that wrote great articles didnt really look the part. For every article by Dave Tate or Jim Wendler there are articles by Ian King, Charles Staley, Mike Boyle, etc…
Without knowing Cressey lifts huge one might just look at the guy and dismiss him, but he is one of the best out there.
I’m just saying that just because they dont look impressive doesnt mean you cant learn from someone. You might want to try doing some Muscle Ups, or some Human Flags one day… In which case Als articles will be there. I’m happy about that idea myself.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I get the mentality of not being excited about reading an article by someone who doesnt look like they lift, but that doesnt mean the articles are useless. Particularly the articles that essentially focus on one thing, like the dragon flag or the snatch for example. Obviously the author (Al Kavadlo) can do a dragon flag quite well, and knows how to progress up to them, so I’m perfectly fine with him writing an article on it.
Now, if these guys were writing about how to get to 250lbs of stage-condition muscle or dealift 900 pounds… Thats a different story
Hell, one could argue that Cressey barely looks like he lifts, but he pulls over 600lbs and is a great coach.
Anything that you can take from Hard to Easy will benefit you. Absorb with is useful, reject what is useless.[/quote]
Well, the other complaint is that since they aren’t addressing the “250lbs lifter” at all, they commence to degrade the people with those goals. That is pretty much how the word “functional” was born. The biased opinion of that one author now becomes mantra for his hoard of impressionable fan-boys.
This is why suddenly the goal seems to be to not really even look like you lift but somehow be the all around super athlete in every sport ever made all by balancing on an inflatable ball.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
You picked a shitty example:
I do believe he has played many downs of football, so yes I will listen to him since his coaching is aided by YEARS of exerience ON and off the field.[/quote]
It’s not a shitty example at all, I picked Belichick specifically. The complaint was that some of the authors of articles don’t look like the upper echelons of athletes that they purport to coach. They look average. The complaint isn’t that they don’t touch a weight.
Belichick looks nothing like a professional football player. The fact that he played football years ago is immaterial. Yet Belichick is an excellent coach, perhaps one of the best ever because of his knowledge, not his physical ability or lack thereof. A skinny runt of a TN author can still have incredible information to convey despite not looking like the bodybuilders who might best use the info.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
You picked a shitty example:
I do believe he has played many downs of football, so yes I will listen to him since his coaching is aided by YEARS of exerience ON and off the field.[/quote]
It’s not a shitty example at all, I picked Belichick specifically. The complaint was that some of the authors of articles don’t look like the upper echelons of athletes that they purport to coach. They look average. The complaint isn’t that they don’t touch a weight.
Belichick looks nothing like a professional football player. The fact that he played football years ago is immaterial. Yet Belichick is an excellent coach, perhaps one of the best ever because of his knowledge, not his physical ability or lack thereof. A skinny runt of a TN author can still have incredible information to convey despite not looking like the bodybuilders who might best use the info.
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Since when do they judge football players on how they look?
This is weightlifting. If you are serious, you tend to look like it in some way. I could see if the guys who don’t look the part were few and far between, but the truth is, the entire fitness industry seems to have moved in that direction. The general public is just clueless enough to not care at all.
If that “skinny runt” has trained lots of people to get huge, that is one thing…but if most of their “followers” also look like newbs or end up with lagging body parts due to ignoring important aspects of bodybuilding, then yeah, it does come into question why they don’t look the part at all.
You would have to be one awesome world class freaking trainer for me to ignore the fact that I can see your ribs when you inhale.
HT - I could easily see where I would be in a gym, look up and see you hulking around and think “powerlifter or off-season bodybuilder”. People just don’t look like you (or similar) without lifting heavy shit.
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except you probably would not be looking “up” to see me, the only person around here that would do that would be Iron Dwarf.
HT - I could easily see where I would be in a gym, look up and see you hulking around and think “powerlifter or off-season bodybuilder”. People just don’t look like you (or similar) without lifting heavy shit.
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except you probably would not be looking “up” to see me, the only person around here that would do that would be Iron Dwarf. [/quote]
No, man, I was doing floor presses when I saw you, so definitely looking up. Coincidentally, I was looking ID right in the eye.
