[quote]oly-ali wrote:
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Real, deep squats are far more difficult than powerlifting curtsies.
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Bench press is unimpressive as soon as one has tried to snatch.
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Pathetic.
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]gogetit wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Drenmi wrote:
Also, where I’m coming from, training youngsters, they still live under the impression that being a good weightlifter is about “being strong”, when it’s actually just about being a good weightlifter.
They say stuff like: “if I get stronger in the legs, my clean will go up”.
Which might be true, but most of the time isn’t.
Instead they could say something like: “if I get stronger in the clean, my clean will go up”.
Or even better: “if I get better in the clean, my clean will go up”.
The strength idea draws attention from the very simple SAID principles that enable progression.[/quote]
If you can’t FS what your trying to CJ by at least 10kg for 3x you probably won’t CJ it…
The FS is really important at your absolute limit in the OLifts. Yes poor technique will lower it further but having a high FS coupled with ‘good’ technique will be better then good technique and not a great FS. I’ve seen loads of lifters that have good technique, but just aren’t very strong and this is why I can lift more. They can’t squat even 130kg let alone 170+ for reps…FS at the expense of not lifting is not good either. You have to FS and lift heavy as well to pull them both up.
Koing[/quote]
Hey Koing, snipes here. How’d you get on yesterday? [/quote]
116
121x
121
140x
140x should have called 999 to get the cops to check out the robbery
140
It’s a good thing I can FS fairly well or I’d have been destroyed by following myself on the CJs…
Koing[/quote]
Good job another lifter took 140. haha. There were some HARSH decisions on jerks IMO.
[quote]Ed Ache wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]gogetit wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Drenmi wrote:
Also, where I’m coming from, training youngsters, they still live under the impression that being a good weightlifter is about “being strong”, when it’s actually just about being a good weightlifter.
They say stuff like: “if I get stronger in the legs, my clean will go up”.
Which might be true, but most of the time isn’t.
Instead they could say something like: “if I get stronger in the clean, my clean will go up”.
Or even better: “if I get better in the clean, my clean will go up”.
The strength idea draws attention from the very simple SAID principles that enable progression.[/quote]
If you can’t FS what your trying to CJ by at least 10kg for 3x you probably won’t CJ it…
The FS is really important at your absolute limit in the OLifts. Yes poor technique will lower it further but having a high FS coupled with ‘good’ technique will be better then good technique and not a great FS. I’ve seen loads of lifters that have good technique, but just aren’t very strong and this is why I can lift more. They can’t squat even 130kg let alone 170+ for reps…FS at the expense of not lifting is not good either. You have to FS and lift heavy as well to pull them both up.
Koing[/quote]
Hey Koing, snipes here. How’d you get on yesterday? [/quote]
116
121x
121
140x
140x should have called 999 to get the cops to check out the robbery
140
It’s a good thing I can FS fairly well or I’d have been destroyed by following myself on the CJs…
Koing[/quote]
Good job another lifter took 140. haha. There were some HARSH decisions on jerks IMO.[/quote]
That was way beyond harsh that was like a vendetta against koing.
[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
[quote]Ed Ache wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]gogetit wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]Drenmi wrote:
Also, where I’m coming from, training youngsters, they still live under the impression that being a good weightlifter is about “being strong”, when it’s actually just about being a good weightlifter.
They say stuff like: “if I get stronger in the legs, my clean will go up”.
Which might be true, but most of the time isn’t.
Instead they could say something like: “if I get stronger in the clean, my clean will go up”.
Or even better: “if I get better in the clean, my clean will go up”.
The strength idea draws attention from the very simple SAID principles that enable progression.[/quote]
If you can’t FS what your trying to CJ by at least 10kg for 3x you probably won’t CJ it…
The FS is really important at your absolute limit in the OLifts. Yes poor technique will lower it further but having a high FS coupled with ‘good’ technique will be better then good technique and not a great FS. I’ve seen loads of lifters that have good technique, but just aren’t very strong and this is why I can lift more. They can’t squat even 130kg let alone 170+ for reps…FS at the expense of not lifting is not good either. You have to FS and lift heavy as well to pull them both up.
Koing[/quote]
Hey Koing, snipes here. How’d you get on yesterday? [/quote]
116
121x
121
140x
140x should have called 999 to get the cops to check out the robbery
140
It’s a good thing I can FS fairly well or I’d have been destroyed by following myself on the CJs…
Koing[/quote]
Good job another lifter took 140. haha. There were some HARSH decisions on jerks IMO.[/quote]
That was way beyond harsh that was like a vendetta against koing. [/quote]
Dunno man, there was a lifter in the 85 group, who had black singlet and black Tshirt underneath. Opened at 140 c&j and got the jerk failed by the two side judges. I, personally, couldn’t work out why. Did you lift?