If any knuckle head ever tells you he lifts Hardcore for 3 hours trust me he doesn’t even know the meaning of hardcore lifting.
If I need to simplfy it even more “If said knuckle head actually lifted Hard Core he wouldn’t be able to lift for 3 hours.”
[quote]Bodyguard wrote:
If any knuckle head ever tells you he lifts Hardcore for 3 hours trust me he doesn’t even know the meaning of hardcore lifting.
If I need to simplfy it even more “If said knuckle head actually lifted Hard Core he wouldn’t be able to lift for 3 hours.”[/quote]
First, this is by far the dumbest thread since last week.
Second, I agree for the most part. If you can train for 3 full hours lifting weights at full out intensity, you are either Kryptonian or you aren’t lifting anywhere near as “hardcore” as you think you are.
Also, the entire concept of this thread just shows flat out stupidity. It is as if some people actually believe that there are no levels of experience, intensity, or effort.
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels. There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.
What does Harcore mean? The correct answer is who gives a shit. Semantics on a bodybuilding forum make me chuckle.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels. There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.[/quote]
Hence me telling him to do Ronnie Coleman’s routine…even though he’s now doing some BS adjusted shit. More than likely, the guys in the pen considered the bigger guy’s routine too intense because he was using more weight than they were used to, and/or he made them use more weight than they were comfortable with.
I have guys all the time try to work out with me and call it too “intense”. The main reason? I make them use weights that are heavier than their comfort level.
[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels. There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.
Hence me telling him to do Ronnie Coleman’s routine…even though he’s now doing some BS adjusted shit. More than likely, the guys in the pen considered the bigger guy’s routine too intense because he was using more weight than they were used to, and/or he made them use more weight than they were comfortable with.
I have guys all the time try to work out with me and call it too “intense”. The main reason? I make them use weights that are heavier than their comfort level.[/quote]
The majority of people I see in the gym aren’t even out of breath when they finish a set. I can;t even comprehend getting anything out of a workout when I can breeze through a workout and barely break a sweat.
Most people don’t have a clue about what hard work in the gym really means and MMA-wannabe-boy here is no doubt even worse.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The majority of people I see in the gym aren’t even out of breath when they finish a set. I can;t even comprehend getting anything out of a workout when I can breeze through a workout and barely break a sweat.
Most people don’t have a clue about what hard work in the gym really means and MMA-wannabe-boy here is no doubt even worse.[/quote]
How about the women who look around the room while moving one plate on the Leg Extension machines? Sorta reminds me of the OP.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hardcore generally means that you’ll kill an orphan and not feel bad.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
you are.
its actually when you kill a kid’s parents making them an orphan. b/c no one cares if an orphan dies or not.[/quote]
Batman is an orphan…and pretty hardcore too. My bets or on him in terms of hardcoreness.
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thinking
But technically…if you kill Batman…an epithome of hardcoreness…and an orphan, for that matter…what does that make you?
And what about hardcore porn?.. How hardcore are you when you’re deadlifting heavy with bruised and bloody shins while watching hardcore porn and chewing on beef jerkey…
I think the world would explode…
So maybe it’s best to ditch the hardcore-attitude, you might look stupid.
Lifting progressively heavier weights, caring for your family, doing your job and laughing at life…I think that would suffice.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels.
There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.
Hence me telling him to do Ronnie Coleman’s routine…even though he’s now doing some BS adjusted shit. More than likely, the guys in the pen considered the bigger guy’s routine too intense because he was using more weight than they were used to, and/or he made them use more weight than they were comfortable with.
I have guys all the time try to work out with me and call it too “intense”. The main reason? I make them use weights that are heavier than their comfort level.
The majority of people I see in the gym aren’t even out of breath when they finish a set. I can;t even comprehend getting anything out of a workout when I can breeze through a workout and barely break a sweat.
Most people don’t have a clue about what hard work in the gym really means and MMA-wannabe-boy here is no doubt even worse.[/quote]
My favorite is watching a couple of guys doing single arm DB curls and chit chatting away during their set. That’s intensity.
[quote]Da Vinci wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels.
There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.
Hence me telling him to do Ronnie Coleman’s routine…even though he’s now doing some BS adjusted shit. More than likely, the guys in the pen considered the bigger guy’s routine too intense because he was using more weight than they were used to, and/or he made them use more weight than they were comfortable with.
I have guys all the time try to work out with me and call it too “intense”. The main reason? I make them use weights that are heavier than their comfort level.
The majority of people I see in the gym aren’t even out of breath when they finish a set. I can;t even comprehend getting anything out of a workout when I can breeze through a workout and barely break a sweat.
Most people don’t have a clue about what hard work in the gym really means and MMA-wannabe-boy here is no doubt even worse.
My favorite is watching a couple of guys doing single arm DB curls and chit chatting away during their set. That’s intensity.
[/quote]
What if they’re hardcore talkers? That’s how hardcore they are, that they talk even working out. Beasts.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
Da Vinci wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Someone who can only curl 35lbs has no fucking clue what it is like to curl a 90lbs dumbbell with one hand and has never experienced the overall stress of using that much weight. That alone can separate intensity levels.
There is no such thing as “relative strength” in terms of how your body deals with stress. If you’ve never experienced truly heavy weight, you have no clue what type of stress on your body that would present.
Hence me telling him to do Ronnie Coleman’s routine…even though he’s now doing some BS adjusted shit. More than likely, the guys in the pen considered the bigger guy’s routine too intense because he was using more weight than they were used to, and/or he made them use more weight than they were comfortable with.
I have guys all the time try to work out with me and call it too “intense”. The main reason? I make them use weights that are heavier than their comfort level.
The majority of people I see in the gym aren’t even out of breath when they finish a set. I can;t even comprehend getting anything out of a workout when I can breeze through a workout and barely break a sweat.
Most people don’t have a clue about what hard work in the gym really means and MMA-wannabe-boy here is no doubt even worse.
My favorite is watching a couple of guys doing single arm DB curls and chit chatting away during their set. That’s intensity.
What if they’re hardcore talkers? That’s how hardcore they are, that they talk even working out. Beasts.[/quote]
No, hardcore talking is when someone else is holding the cell phone to your head while you do your set. I’ve actually seen this.
I withdraw money from the ATM machine in a hardcore fashion. I’m hardcore when I buy groceries. Not as hardcore as the “dime a dozen” wannabe MMA boys. It seems like every dickweed puts a Tapout sticker on his/her vehicle.
[quote]Tysdon wrote:
SSC wrote:
the ability for the athlete himself to push his/her body to its maximum potential with the most amount of intensity it can generate outside of injury.
I got that part but how do you achieve this in an 1-2 hour period weight training WITHOUT going towards injury and just plain stupidity.
I mean any old fool can set up a bar and just start doing endless sets of squats till he pukes and/or his body shuts down but how do you make it functional. To where 1 man does this “intense” workout as his normal routine 6 days a week, but when another lifter tries to go along with his program he drops out within a month or less.[/quote]
Was your last paragraph a question or a statement?
If you do endless sets of squats until you puke (assuming you recover and grow), how is it not functional? Having stronger legs is not a disfunction.
[quote]Carnage wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hardcore generally means that you’ll kill an orphan and not feel bad.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
you are.
its actually when you kill a kid’s parents making them an orphan. b/c no one cares if an orphan dies or not.
Batman is an orphan…and pretty hardcore too. My bets or on him in terms of hardcoreness.
¨
thinking
But technically…if you kill Batman…an epithome of hardcoreness…and an orphan, for that matter…what does that make you?
And what about hardcore porn?.. How hardcore are you when you’re deadlifting heavy with bruised and bloody shins while watching hardcore porn and chewing on beef jerkey…
I think the world would explode…
So maybe it’s best to ditch the hardcore-attitude, you might look stupid.
Lifting progressively heavier weights, caring for your family, doing your job and laughing at life…I think that would suffice.[/quote]
if you can deadlift and simotaneously watch porn you are super hardcore b/c im sure deadlifting with a boner must really fucking hurt.
Coloring…Hardcore
Metroflex=Hardcore
Are you guys fucking retarded?
This is what hardcore means
Hardcore means your body quits before your mind does.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I withdraw money from the ATM machine in a hardcore fashion. I’m hardcore when I buy groceries. Not as hardcore as the “dime a dozen” wannabe MMA boys. It seems like every dickweed puts a Tapout sticker on his/her vehicle. [/quote]
and im sure all those dickweeds have a purple belt in BJJ and a more than a few NAGA 1st places just like me right?
[quote]Tysdon wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I withdraw money from the ATM machine in a hardcore fashion. I’m hardcore when I buy groceries. Not as hardcore as the “dime a dozen” wannabe MMA boys. It seems like every dickweed puts a Tapout sticker on his/her vehicle.
and im sure all those dickweeds have a purple belt in BJJ and a more than a few NAGA 1st places just like me right?[/quote]
There you gooo…let it happen…qualify yourself to us. Demonstrate lower value.
[quote]Tysdon wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I withdraw money from the ATM machine in a hardcore fashion. I’m hardcore when I buy groceries. Not as hardcore as the “dime a dozen” wannabe MMA boys. It seems like every dickweed puts a Tapout sticker on his/her vehicle.
and im sure all those dickweeds have a purple belt in BJJ and a more than a few NAGA 1st places just like me right?[/quote]
Yes, and I don’t think skinny people can handle “hardcore” workouts.