What do you think?

The ventrogluteal looks easy enough, and there aren’t any major nerves running through there? When injecting there should I have the entire inch and a half needle stabbed in me, or should I need put it in that deep there???

I leveled out the numbers for both drugs. .85ml of tren everday, 1ml of winstrol every other day, without having to have 2 and a half weeks of everday… Does that sound cool?

I read that thread about injection sites, today I only injected tren, but tomorrow I start winstrol aswell. My only concern is the thread said to draw how ever much air I plan on drawing of the drug, so i tried it with the tren, but it didn’t help in any way, i still had air bubbles. But I have to say I’m pretty good at drawing the stuff without bubbles… DOing it like a pro…

You don’t absolutely need the hcg but it will help speed your recover. If you do get the hcg, you would do it during your cycle, not after. I have made many posts regarding the usage of hcg, so just check the search engine. The only time you could consider doing hcg after a cycle is if you were using steroids with long esters like enantate, or decanate for example.
The advantage to using hcg is that you maintain optimum testicular size and function during a cycle so that after you are finished a cycle you don’t have to wait for your testicles to regain their size before you can expect good natural test levels to return. Also it has been speculated that testicular atrophy can cause the formation of permament scar tissue, or in other words tissue remodeling occurs - “use it or lose it syndrome” I should also note the dangers of hcg 1. is the risk of desensitizing the testicles to your bodies own Lh stimulus by overdosing - make sure you do not do this. and 2. is that hcg produces just as much estrogen as testosterone so use of an antiaromatase like letrozole, or a estrogen site antagonist like nolvadex is a must.

You can go ahead and stick the entire inch and a half needle in if you like, or you can only stick an inch in, it is really up to you.

No there are no major nerves or blood vessels running in that area. This is why it is the most recomended site for deep intramuscular injections in the hospitals -low risk of malpractice (if you land mark correctly) Just make sure you locate the head of the femur (trochanter) correctly. You can do this by swinging your leg up and down while palpating (feeling) the area with your fingers until you get a good idea as to where it is. I have done cycle where I literally didn’t use any other site besides just switching back and forth from left ventro glute to right ventro glute (you will need at least 2 others because you are injecting every day) You will really like using this site.

As far as injecting air into your multidose bottles, this is done to equalize the pressure in the bottle - if you are removing 1cc of product you must replace it with 1cc of something or pretty soon you will have a pretty decent vacum in the bottle and will be unable to draw any thing out.

If you are drawing from two bottles at a time, swab both with an alchohol swab, then first inject the amount in air you are going to draw from your 2nd bottle, then pull out, inject the amount in air you are going to pull out from your first bottle then draw up the dose, pull out the pin, change pins if you like or not, then put the needle back in the 2nd bottle and draw out that dose as well.

Okay, question.
Does your winstrol look white, slightly powdery? I know i’m describing this really bad. Its not powdery, it just not as thin as the oil, because if I flip the vial of tren I can see how much is left. But with the winstrol if I flip the vial, it leaves a thin residue around the surface of the inside of the vial so I’m unable to see exactly how much is left, does this sound normal?
My next question is more wierd. I drew 1cc of winstrol and .85cc of tren, in the same syringe. I drew the winstrol first does this matter? WHen my friend was injecting the tren had no problem going in, and most of the winstrol was fine too, but at the end with like .4cc left of winstrol it was as if the syringe jammed or something, he couldn’t push the last bit in. SO when I pulled it out I was checking it out, it was like there was an air lock or something, when I tried to draw in air to see what the problem was, when I let go of the back of the syringe, it sprung back, like sucked back in?
Defective needle?
Or what?

yes Winstrol -V tends to be just how you described it. The other thing is you may need to use a larger gauge pin for the winstrol. Try 22 or 21 gauge.
V is actually small crystals suspended in water, there is a potential, depending on how large these small crystals are to clog up a needle - I’m sorry I should have known this was going to happen. Try experimenting by drawing up some V, changing needles and then injecting it back into your bottle. If it cloggs while you are doing this, it is definitely the needle size. If this is the case I would hate to recomend every day injections with a 22 gauge needle or lower. you can try breaking your doses down into 3 injections a week with the winny, (take back the 23s and buy some 22s or 21s, and get smaller needles like 25s or 27s for the tren that you will be injecting every day. Then on the days you inject both, just use the larger needle, on the days you inject the tren, use the smaller needle.

p-221 is officially the “tampa-terry” of the steroid forum.

and the cool part is that he showed us a picture of his bare ass!

shitty eh? Alright… I’m going to do that like this weekend or something… The dealer gave me a few needles to start with, I can’t remember how many are left, but I hope they hold out until the weekend… So that I won’t open the new box of needles…
Alright, other than that though everything else went by smoothly… No complaints, and I’m happy to hear my winstrol sounds legit. I have to say, after a week and a half of using it, I’m not really feeling much. I’m getting a slightly larger pump… maybe… or maybe I’m just imaging it… but I know everyone says that you don’t really start to “feel anything” until 4-5 weeks in… is this true?

P-dog “showed you my bare ass”! WTF?

Snowman: I would say by the end of week 3 you will definitely know you are on something! especially with the dosages that you are taking. Just be careful when working out not to get an injury!

oh, you mean that pic above wasnt you?

well im disappointed then.

That pic has no penis. of course it isn’t me.

Alright, so just a minute ago, I had to inject 1cc of winny and .85 cc of tren in the 23 guage needle. So after all the tren went in, it started to jam again at the winstrol. But remember what happened with my friend injecting it the other night, I started pushing the plunger really hard, and it just shot in, REEEEEEAAAALLLY FAST! All gone. So I think I’ll stick to these needles, I just gotta push hard, and make sure that on the winstrol days I’m the one injecting so that my friend doesn’t have to be worried about how hard he’s pushing… ANywho, p22 thanks for the help. THings are going good, I’m not feeling any mood altering side effects, I’m still my social, cheery, funny self… I’m start to lift a little bit more in the gym, (probably just in my head, but atleast I’m pushing my self hard) Summer league football training starts in march (near the end of my cycle, I’m gonna play for a more competitive league this year, so I have to prove myself all over again… this will help… but i could do with out… I’m excited to start playing again, I miss it.
I’m eating like a mofo, literally 7-8 meals a day, from bacon and eggs, to chicken salads, to steaks, to tuna sandwiches, to oatmeal, to whatever the fuck i find… I raid my fridge, and any fridge i come near…
Anyways, things are going good, I’ll fill you in on my progress
THanks
JOhn

Don’t expect mood to change too terribly much while on. That’s a misconception and for people who do get moody while on and roid rage and all that crap- they give the rest of us a bad name because its not the juice it’s themselves.