haha no I hate eating which is why I use a lot of shakes. The eggs and oats takes me a little over an hour of constant eating to finish. I can down the eggs pretty quick, but damn that oatmeal is tough.
Thats too bad, I guess you just have to do what you can to make it taste good. I don’t know how you make your oatmeal but I think it tastes great with stevia and cinnamon added and twice as good with vanilla or especially chocolate mint protein powder added. Currently I just started adding 1tbsp of sugar free maple syrup to mine making it even better and that only adds like 10 calories so its all good.
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Yah I don’t make much effort to make my food taste good lol, never have. My favorite though is making it with the vanilla soy milk, that’s great bu usually I just make it plain with skim milk.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
By far and away the best results I have ever gotten from a specific diet would be HIGH protein, moderate fat, and med/low carb.
Oatmeal with breakfast, waxy maize pre/during/post workout and then the rest of carbs from veggies and some cottage cheese before bed.
Also making sure I only pair P+F or P+C, never all three or just F+C.
From 268-280 in 4 months with no visible increase in bodyfat.
And this is what you have done recently correct?
Any idea what your total breakdown of calories/protein/carbs/fat was? And were you only consuming carbs breakfast and peri-workout?
Yes I’ve been doing this loosely for about 3 months now,but been really strict with it the past month and a half though, and the muscle has been piling on. Here’s what I’m eating.
Very high protein, pretty high fat, and a decent amount of carbs. Not really sure on the calories/macros and I don’t feel like figuring it out haha sorry [/quote]
That is shitload of protein.
Is that ~600g of protein, maybe I should try that.
268 to 280 is amazing.
haha no I hate eating which is why I use a lot of shakes. The eggs and oats takes me a little over an hour of constant eating to finish. I can down the eggs pretty quick, but damn that oatmeal is tough.[/quote]
Just a thought, but have you tried blending it? I find it difficult to eat solid food in the morning, plus preparation takes longer than I like, so I just drink a shake each morning consisting of 400ml whole milk, 100ml soy milk (for the taste mostly), 10gr flaxseed, 100gr oatmeal, 2 raw eggs and some blueberries.
I guess if you increase the milk in there you can also increase the eggs to 5 or 6 (not increasing the milk would make it very disgusting I imagine) and you’d only have 5 or 6 whole eggs to down next to that. Maybe this will prove usefull to you, maybe not, but I find this shake quite tasty and it may definetely save you some time in the morning.
I’m currently only consuming carbohydrates from fruit, veg and in pre and post-workout shakes, the rest of my nutrition is in the form of plenty of protein from meat, fish, nuts, eggs and whey/casein shakes and fat from olive oil, fish oil, meat, nuts, etc.
It’s helped me put on around 13-15lbs since around january with no noticeable fat increase.
50g whey 5g leucine
10 whole eggs +1 1/2 cups oats mixed with skim milk
75g whey +4 tbsp EVOO
Pre W:50g whey +30g waxy maize +5 leucine +5g creatine
Peri W: 25g whey+30g WM+5g leucine
Post W: 75g whey +60g WM +10g leucine +5g creatine
1.5 lbs ground sirloin +handful spinach leaves+salsa
75g whey +4 tbsp EVOO
2 chicken breasts +handful spinach leaves
4 tbsp natty PB +1 cup 4% cottage cheese
50g whey +5g leucine
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how do you manage to eat quantities like this? i know its alot of shakes but did you have trouble downing it all when begining this diet?
High fat, high protein, low carb ( less then 50g a day average) worked great for me when I got serious. After 4 weeks,starting in May, I gained 6 pounds and lost 3/4 of an inch around my waist (dont know bf %'s but it was low to begin with), that got be past the 200lb mark finally (202), not real impressive but if I wasnt so broke ass and kept that up for a few months id imagine my results would be very satisfying (im 6’4" so I still look slim). I was consuming about 4-5000 cals a day, lots of mixed nuts and cream, no fruit lots of veggies. Supps where whey protein and fish oil, about 10 of the cheap pills a day.
Note: Last I weighted in at I was 207, and since about the middle june of been following what I would call my usual diet with no supps.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
By far and away the best results I have ever gotten from a specific diet would be HIGH protein, moderate fat, and med/low carb.
Oatmeal with breakfast, waxy maize pre/during/post workout and then the rest of carbs from veggies and some cottage cheese before bed.
Also making sure I only pair P+F or P+C, never all three or just F+C.
From 268-280 in 4 months with no visible increase in bodyfat.[/quote]
Some strength coaches believe that strict meal combining is not really necessary because the effects of a meal last longer than just a few hours and insulin is not required to cause fat intake to lead to fat storage.
Have you always followed the P+F and P+C approach? Maybe you don’t need to go to such lengths.
I’m interested because I have also eaten this way pretty much since day one and I’m now considering being less diligent with my meals as I’m not entirely sure it’s necessary.
haha no I hate eating which is why I use a lot of shakes. The eggs and oats takes me a little over an hour of constant eating to finish. I can down the eggs pretty quick, but damn that oatmeal is tough.
Just a thought, but have you tried blending it? I find it difficult to eat solid food in the morning, plus preparation takes longer than I like, so I just drink a shake each morning consisting of 400ml whole milk, 100ml soy milk (for the taste mostly), 10gr flaxseed, 100gr oatmeal, 2 raw eggs and some blueberries.
I guess if you increase the milk in there you can also increase the eggs to 5 or 6 (not increasing the milk would make it very disgusting I imagine) and you’d only have 5 or 6 whole eggs to down next to that. Maybe this will prove usefull to you, maybe not, but I find this shake quite tasty and it may definetely save you some time in the morning. [/quote]
Well I don’t have a blender, but I have done something like this when I go visit my parents. I only did it twice, but I did 15 tbsps of EVOO, 6 eggs, 2 cups oatmeal, 5 tbsps PB, 3 cups skim milk, 1 cup mixed nuts and I threw in some veggie complex pills and glutamine just for the hell of it, along with some vanilla extract for taste. It was fucking good lol.
I typically like to have a solid breakfast though.
how do you manage to eat quantities like this? i know its alot of shakes but did you have trouble downing it all when begining this diet?[/quote]
Not really, I always eat this much or more on average. Obviously I didn’t start out like this, I added to it over time just like you would add weight to your bench press over time. This is fairly easy for me at this point
[quote]CKMAN wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
By far and away the best results I have ever gotten from a specific diet would be HIGH protein, moderate fat, and med/low carb.
Oatmeal with breakfast, waxy maize pre/during/post workout and then the rest of carbs from veggies and some cottage cheese before bed.
Also making sure I only pair P+F or P+C, never all three or just F+C.
From 268-280 in 4 months with no visible increase in bodyfat.
Some strength coaches believe that strict meal combining is not really necessary because the effects of a meal last longer than just a few hours and insulin is not required to cause fat intake to lead to fat storage.
Have you always followed the P+F and P+C approach? Maybe you don’t need to go to such lengths.
I’m interested because I have also eaten this way pretty much since day one and I’m now considering being less diligent with my meals as I’m not entirely sure it’s necessary.
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I combined all 3 nutrients for pretty much 95% of my lifting career. Separating them is something I’ve only done for the past 2 months or so and the results have been amazing so I will continue to do it.
(Its 100g of carbs on workout days, consumed at breakfast and PWO, and 70g of Carbs consumed at breakfast on non-workout days - rest of the calories from fat/protein).
Well I don’t have a blender, but I have done something like this when I go visit my parents. I only did it twice, but I did 15 tbsps of EVOO, 6 eggs, 2 cups oatmeal, 5 tbsps PB, 3 cups skim milk, 1 cup mixed nuts and I threw in some veggie complex pills and glutamine just for the hell of it, along with some vanilla extract for taste. It was fucking good lol.
I typically like to have a solid breakfast though.[/quote]
Holy shit that was one meal??? Thats like 4400 calories
[quote]monatu wrote:
T-Dawg 2.0 diet has worked wonders for me.
(Its 100g of carbs on workout days, consumed at breakfast and PWO, and 70g of Carbs consumed at breakfast on non-workout days - rest of the calories from fat/protein).[/quote]
Thats almost exactly what I’m doing now as a sort of break/change to the typical CKD I was doing
Hi guys i am on low carb diet for first time and i would like to get some advice.
My goal is pretty much to keep my weight but loose some body fat.
My stats are
i started at 100 kg unfortunately i did loose some weight the last month to 94 kg
my protein intake per day is between 210-280 g
carbs between 20-50 g a day
and fats between 150-200 g a day which makes me wonder isnt that too much fats a day.
[quote]lmhr wrote:
No, you will need the fat so you got some energy since the carbs are pretty low.[/quote]
Thx u for the respond, but up to what amount of fats should i allow myself to consume. Btw last month i started with 16 % bf and i did it today too. I am 14% now which i would guess is not bad progress for a month and not with the strictest diet.
What has worked best for me is to eat a well-balanced diet 500 calories over my maintenace levels, and bust ass in the gym five times a week. My diet consists of mostly oatmeal, fruit, chicken breast, eggs, and nuts, nut-butters, and steak from time to time.