What an Arse

[quote]skor wrote:
Zeb, you are projecting. A likely scenario is that when she is 35 she’ll look back at this silver medal and at least one gold model and say: Damn, I did all of that and had so much fun!

She is kid (20), perfoming in her first Olympics, in a disciple where initially style mattered the most and if not for that, snowboarding might have never become an Olympic event - GIVE HER A BRAKE! Athletes are not machines, they are humans. Maybe she needs this kind of behaviour/attitude to progress and stay on track.

ZEB wrote:
It is a big deal. It’s a very big deal! Not many people get to represent their country in the Olympics. It’s an honor. And you are not there to simply “have fun.” You are representing the USA and should know better than do something stupid like that.

At The Age Of 20 She Says:

“I was having fun, Snowboarding is fun. I was feeling great that I was ahead. I wanted to share with the crowd my enthusiasm.”

Someday at the age of 35 she will say:

“I was a dumb kid. I didn’t realize what I had. I blew it big time!”

yep.

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Wow…I never looked at it that way!

You are really smart…(eye roll).

[quote]ZEB wrote:
skor wrote:
Zeb, you are projecting. A likely scenario is that when she is 35 she’ll look back at this silver medal and at least one gold model and say: Damn, I did all of that and had so much fun!

She is kid (20), perfoming in her first Olympics, in a disciple where initially style mattered the most and if not for that, snowboarding might have never become an Olympic event - GIVE HER A BRAKE! Athletes are not machines, they are humans. Maybe she needs this kind of behaviour/attitude to progress and stay on track.

ZEB wrote:
It is a big deal. It’s a very big deal! Not many people get to represent their country in the Olympics. It’s an honor. And you are not there to simply “have fun.” You are representing the USA and should know better than do something stupid like that.

At The Age Of 20 She Says:

“I was having fun, Snowboarding is fun. I was feeling great that I was ahead. I wanted to share with the crowd my enthusiasm.”

Someday at the age of 35 she will say:

“I was a dumb kid. I didn’t realize what I had. I blew it big time!”

yep.

Wow…I never looked at it that way!

You are really smart…(eye roll).

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What does she need a “BRAKE” for, she falls over to slow down!

Also, i bet the person who didn’tmake it as she came 3rd at the trials is really pleased for her falling on her arse and ruining what could be a once in a lifetime achievment.

[quote]skor wrote:
Zeb, you are projecting. …
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You are too.

She shouldn’t be critisized for what she did. that article was a piece of trash.

There was an article in the paper today regarding how people of different generations have opposite feelings about this snowboarder’s antics. It said that the middle-aged and older folks are pissed (that’s me) and the younger generations (<30 years old) are OK with her performance.

Interesting… I’m not sure what this says about either group, but interesting, nonetheless. My informal survey at work kind of backs this up.

It’s just a game. The loss is hers. If she doesn’t care, i sure don’t.

I think she has a healthy attitude. There are too many couch potatoes getting stressed about by stuff like this. It doesn’t even effect any of you.

I’m stunned at the number of posts in this thread that state that the idea of ‘style before substance’ is prevalent throughout the entire sport of snowboarding.

WTF?! To quote Herm Edwards: “YOU PLAY… TO WIN… THE GAME!” What’s the point of staging a snowboarding competition if the whole idea is to get a bunch of snowboarders out there to shoot the shit? This attitude is why snowboarding is an outdoor activity like hiking and will never become a real ‘sport.’

As to why I care: She’s not representing herself or her sponsers or her trainers. Her jersay says “U.S.A.” on the front. She wasn’t sent over there to have a good time, she was sent over there to compete as hard as she could and she failed to do so. THAT is why we’re angry with her.

And to respond to posts like Vroom’s: For 23 hours and 58 minutes of my day, I don’t give this subject a second thought. For the two minutes I spent reading and posting on this thread, I’m pissed at Jacobellis. If that’s caring too much, in your opinion, then I guess I do care too much.

Go big or go home. She tried for something extraordinary and failed.

At least she tried.

[quote]Mark P wrote:
Go big or go home. She tried for something extraordinary and failed.

At least she tried.[/quote]

She tried to show off and failed.

You hippies should stick to the X Games. Well, actually the Olympics suck too.

I dunno, it’s hard to care.

It’s snowboarding, not international relations. There’s no money in the Olympics, I think the coverage may actually help her career.

Honestly the Olympics is kind of a bloated corpse at this point, still taking itself oh so seriously after being scandalised year after year. “It’s about the purity of athletic accomplishment!”

Ignoring the drug scandals, ignoring the fact that it’s often a political tool (USA vs. USSR anyone?), ignoring the fact that dancing horses is a sport?

Now if Muay Thai is declared an Olympic sport, then I might tune in.

[quote]Michael570 wrote:

People generally don’t have much respect for showboaters, especially when the showboating causes them to fuck up their performance.
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That same crap happens almost every week in the NFL. And they are high paid professionals.

[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:

…There’s no money in the Olympics…[/quote]

Am I wrong in thinking that the US is one of the countries that pay its athletes for gold (maybe silve and bronze as well) medals that they win?

-FC

It’s truly sad to see how many people fall for this nationalism propaganda. At least there are indicators though, that it is the older generation…

Heil Hitler, and fuck Jesse Owens - Huh, you queef bastards! lol

[quote]Kailash wrote:
It’s truly sad to see how many people fall for this nationalism propaganda. At least there are indicators though, that it is the older generation…

Heil Hitler, and fuck Jesse Owens - Huh, you queef bastards! lol[/quote]

Huh?

[quote]Balle wrote:
relax guys, it’s not some major war of yours she’s messed up. It’s just her personal thing. If you were her trainers I could understand it if you’re annoyed but just being a normal fan or not even that… You just need something to be pissed off about, don’t you… (well, here I am… be pissed off if you enjoy that)

RELAX[/quote]

Great strawman argument. I went to a very expensive fundraising dinner for the US National Ski and Snowboard teams. And I have to tell you that everyone there didn’t pay those sums of money to support the US teams in losing. Show some pride and responsibility. This isn?t some hometown ski club. You are representing your country, and the thousands of people who are supporting you financially. Make a statement that you appreciate them.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Oh, I don’t know…perhaps by evaluating her performance against that of her competitors? She finished her performance, and beat everybody else in that aspect. That’s the actual sport. That’s what people are there to see. That’s what the athletes are competing against each other for. They’re not there to compete against one another in sliding 150m down a hill towards a finish line. Everything besides the actual performance is strictly a technical formality.

Who would want to be the declared “winner” of an event in which he or she was clearly inferior in skill level to the other contestants? Not me, for sure.

Ranking systems exist in athletics to present a reflection of the relative skill levels of athletes in their respective sports. Like any other hierarchical system devised by humans, ranking systems are not perfect - they have their flaws.

In the real world, being #1 in rank does NOT necessarily mean being the best, brightest, strongest, or most able in a particular field. This is as true in sports as it is in the military, the government, and private sector.

Three cheers for people who possess actual skill in their fields – not superficial ranks and titles.[/quote]

I don’t care about snowboarding personally, but I have to respectfully state that the paragraphs quoted above were retarded.
What is the point of sport competitions then?
Why should I strive to compete in a particular sport if my opponent is clearly superior in skill? Should I just throw in the towel and say “Oh well, even if I win that it would be meaningless because he is clearly superior in skill to me”

The whole point of competition is to show your skill when it MATTERS (i.e. in an actual competition event). Who gives a flying fuck if you can win every single sparring or a training race if you cannot perform at the event than matters.

There were thousands of situations where competitors or teams who were clearly inferior in skill or athleticism or whatever defeated “better” opponents in the Olympics, World Championships etc. I never saw anyone of those defeated simply shrug their shoulders and say “Oh nevermind, we could have beated them any other day, everyone knows were better, we were here just to have fun”.

This wholle “I’m just here to have fun and please the crowd” sounds like PC run amok and applied to sports.

[quote]Kailash wrote:
It’s truly sad to see how many people fall for this nationalism propaganda. At least there are indicators though, that it is the older generation…[/quote]

This is the reason I don’t care for the Olympics as a whole.

Look at all the armchair athletes on this thread who are pissed that a snowboarder didn’t win a gold medal for them.

As for all the showboating comments, at it’s core snowboarding is showboating. It doesn’t matter wheather it’s halfpipe, slopestyle, boardercross, or freeriding.

She represented The US and now an American girl seems to be, I dunno, allmost human…

What a terrible message to send to the world and HOW COME NOBODY THINKS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON OUR CHILDREN!!!

I bet she smokes pot too, that snowboarding hippy harlot…