Who paid her trip to the games?
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Just curious (not being snarky) - do all of you guys who think she did something idiotic think the same of world-class powerlifters who bomb out at meets because they went for records?
-Dan[/quote]
No comparison. If she fell in an all-out sprint to the finish, we’d be proud of her and that’s the breaks.
Now imagine a powerlifter who decided he/she could play catch with the
bell, since they’re ‘so far ahead’. Moron. (not you; anyone who’d try that).
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
As a Snowboarder and an American I am shocked and aghast!
NOT! Jeez oh man- You guys need to come back down to earth. The girl did great and had a good time doing it.
Some of you sound like those Idiotic supercaoch parents that destroy fun and competition for everybody, especialy the participant, all for the sake of winning.
How many of you have ever even competed in anything at a local, state or national level?
I have fought at the state and local level in MA. Next time, when I’m way ahead, I’ll do a little playful dance, instead of fighting.
She’s a moron.
You had your chance. And you blew it!
Bonehead move, but who really cares?
The Olympics suck because they have too many lame events.
Snowboarding is fun but it does not seem like an Olympic event to me.
It does set a good example why you should finish strong and not goof around at the end.
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
It’s nice to see that the Olympics haven’t corrupted snowboarding.
Those bitching about Lindsey don’t understand the sport.[/quote]
I thought the object of the event was to be the first across the finish line.
She decided to show up her opponents by doing a little trick when she was about to win.
She fell. She deserved to lose because she chose poor sportsmanship.
I wish more of these things happened in the world of sports.
Those that think this kind of thing is cool don’t seem to understand sports and sportsmanship in general.
Instead of showing remorse for her poor sportsmanship she instead shows a sour grapes attitude and pretends she did not care about winning the gold medal.
If that was the case why did she go in the first place?
[quote]magyar wrote:
She’s an ass. Sorry, but she was there to represent our country in competition. She can have all of the fun she wants on her own time. the Olympics is a time when she should have competed with dignity. I’d rather see some one compete who takes it seriously. The lack of shame on her part afterwards only made it worse.
Having fun… kiss my ass.[/quote]
true words, the Olympics are about giving the best for the country you were given the honor to represent!
The whole talking about her knowing that she was the best despite not taking first place is bullshit.
The athlete who crosses the finish line first is the winner.
Does anyone think that Reggie Bush is a “complete looser” or a showboat for that last second lateral that resulted in a turn over for USC in the Rose Bowl this year? Was he playing for his team or was he being an individual in that instant? Should he be punished in the draft for that mistake or should that lapse of judgement be forgiven based on all his other accomplishments?
Some of you folks take shit too seriously. Especially when it is the actions and lives of other people that you are so concerned about…
LOSE! The fucking word is “LOSE”, not “LOOSE”.
LOSE: to not win.
LOOSE: not tight.
Jesus fucking Christ on a pogo stick, why is this so goddam difficult?
[quote]swabby wrote:
Does anyone think that Reggie Bush is a “complete looser” or a showboat for that last second lateral that resulted in a turn over for USC in the Rose Bowl this year? Was he playing for his team or was he being an individual in that instant? Should he be punished in the draft for that mistake or should that lapse of judgement be forgiven based on all his other accomplishments?
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He was trying to advance the ball farther down the field for his team. That is his role in the game. You can’t compare that to doing a “trick” to show off in a race where crossing the finish line first is the only goal.
[quote]swabby wrote:
Does anyone think that Reggie Bush is a “complete looser” or a showboat for that last second lateral that resulted in a turn over for USC in the Rose Bowl this year? Was he playing for his team or was he being an individual in that instant? Should he be punished in the draft for that mistake or should that lapse of judgement be forgiven based on all his other accomplishments?
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I don’t think that’s an accurate comparison. The event that this thread refers to is an athlete celebrating a win before crossing the finish line, falling on her ass in the process, and then providing conflicting excuses afterwards.
People generally don’t have much respect for showboaters, especially when the showboating causes them to fuck up their performance.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Some of you folks take shit too seriously. Especially when it is the actions and lives of other people that you are so concerned about…[/quote]
I think people get frustrated with these things because there’s a long list of US athletes that give the impression that Americans are cocky, selfish, and spoiled. Unfortunately they get a significant amount of coverage in the media.
Anyway, if these posts bother you then you shouldn’t take shit too seriously. Especially when it is the actions and lives of other people that you are so concerned about.
What are you talking about? These posts don’t bother me at all. Though it does look like some people are very bothered by the actions of the athlete.
Look at the language they are using.
Anyway, your head obviously isn’t up there far enough, keep trying.
[quote]vroom wrote:
What are you talking about? These posts don’t bother me at all. Though it does look like some people are very bothered by the actions of the athlete.
Look at the language they are using.
Anyway, your head obviously isn’t up there far enough, keep trying.[/quote]
You’re right. You win. My head is up my ass. I thought your post was ironic. I guess not.
I’ll go wash my mouth out with soap now. Continue on with your 15 posts a day on topics of great importance.
[quote]doogie wrote:
How the fuck can you say she “beat everyone else” if someone else crossed the damn finish line before her? That’s retarded.
That’s like saying someone who had the most stylish dunk won the basketball game even if his team got beat by 10 points.
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Oh, I don’t know…perhaps by evaluating her performance against that of her competitors? She finished her performance, and beat everybody else in that aspect. That’s the actual sport. That’s what people are there to see. That’s what the athletes are competing against each other for. They’re not there to compete against one another in sliding 150m down a hill towards a finish line. Everything besides the actual performance is strictly a technical formality.
Who would want to be the declared “winner” of an event in which he or she was clearly inferior in skill level to the other contestants? Not me, for sure.
Ranking systems exist in athletics to present a reflection of the relative skill levels of athletes in their respective sports. Like any other hierarchical system devised by humans, ranking systems are not perfect - they have their flaws.
In the real world, being #1 in rank does NOT necessarily mean being the best, brightest, strongest, or most able in a particular field. This is as true in sports as it is in the military, the government, and private sector.
Three cheers for people who possess actual skill in their fields – not superficial ranks and titles.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I think the “representing one’s country” part of the Olympics is strictly PR. Except, perhaps, for those athletes who hail from Eastern Bloc nations and have been systematically programmed for their Olympic roles since the age of 3. I’m sure they take it pretty seriously.
In any case, Jack Strummer was the only person I saw who pointed out the fact that, while she didn’t win formally, she did beat everyone else.
In my book, a winning performance makes a winner - not a medal, or any other official formality.
She beat everyone else. That’s all that matters, as far as winning is concerned. She could have sat behind the finish line and let every other contestant pass. She still would have been the true winner, from an athletic perspective.
And lastly, she’s right. Who cares? She had fun. She’s not being paid to “represent America”. She’s there because she’s pursuing an individual hobby of hers.[/quote]
The Europeans care more than most of the Americans. It’s what makes the hockey so much fun to watch. Compare the type of player Selanne is in the NHL to what he becomes in the Olympics. This is evident throughout most of the European teams. It’s a big part of why there are upsets like the Swiss beating the Canadians. I think it’s most evident in the big team sports in general since most of the individual sports tend to have more on the line at the Olympics.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
doogie wrote:
How the fuck can you say she “beat everyone else” if someone else crossed the damn finish line before her? That’s retarded.
That’s like saying someone who had the most stylish dunk won the basketball game even if his team got beat by 10 points.
Oh, I don’t know…perhaps by evaluating her performance against that of her competitors? She finished her performance, and beat everybody else in that aspect. That’s the actual sport. That’s what people are there to see. That’s what the athletes are competing against each other for. They’re not there to compete against one another in sliding 150m down a hill towards a finish line. Everything besides the actual performance is strictly a technical formality.
Who would want to be the declared “winner” of an event in which he or she was clearly inferior in skill level to the other contestants? Not me, for sure.
Ranking systems exist in athletics to present a reflection of the relative skill levels of athletes in their respective sports. Like any other hierarchical system devised by humans, ranking systems are not perfect - they have their flaws.
In the real world, being #1 in rank does NOT necessarily mean being the best, brightest, strongest, or most able in a particular field. This is as true in sports as it is in the military, the government, and private sector.
Three cheers for people who possess actual skill in their fields – not superficial ranks and titles.[/quote]
I think you are confused. This was a race. She lost.
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
doogie wrote:
How the fuck can you say she “beat everyone else” if someone else crossed the damn finish line before her? That’s retarded.
That’s like saying someone who had the most stylish dunk won the basketball game even if his team got beat by 10 points.
Oh, I don’t know…perhaps by evaluating her performance against that of her competitors? She finished her performance, and beat everybody else in that aspect. That’s the actual sport. That’s what people are there to see. That’s what the athletes are competing against each other for. They’re not there to compete against one another in sliding 150m down a hill towards a finish line. Everything besides the actual performance is strictly a technical formality.
Who would want to be the declared “winner” of an event in which he or she was clearly inferior in skill level to the other contestants? Not me, for sure.
Ranking systems exist in athletics to present a reflection of the relative skill levels of athletes in their respective sports. Like any other hierarchical system devised by humans, ranking systems are not perfect - they have their flaws.
In the real world, being #1 in rank does NOT necessarily mean being the best, brightest, strongest, or most able in a particular field. This is as true in sports as it is in the military, the government, and private sector.
Three cheers for people who possess actual skill in their fields – not superficial ranks and titles.[/quote]
Do you even know what we are talking about? She was in a race. There were no judges giving her scores. It WAS a race just sliding down the hill, and the first one to cross the finish line won. That’s all there is to the sport.
Zeb, you are projecting. A likely scenario is that when she is 35 she’ll look back at this silver medal and at least one gold model and say: Damn, I did all of that and had so much fun!
She is kid (20), perfoming in her first Olympics, in a disciple where initially style mattered the most and if not for that, snowboarding might have never become an Olympic event - GIVE HER A BRAKE! Athletes are not machines, they are humans. Maybe she needs this kind of behaviour/attitude to progress and stay on track.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
It is a big deal. It’s a very big deal! Not many people get to represent their country in the Olympics. It’s an honor. And you are not there to simply “have fun.” You are representing the USA and should know better than do something stupid like that.
At The Age Of 20 She Says:
“I was having fun, Snowboarding is fun. I was feeling great that I was ahead. I wanted to share with the crowd my enthusiasm.”
Someday at the age of 35 she will say:
“I was a dumb kid. I didn’t realize what I had. I blew it big time!”
yep.[/quote]