Wendler 5/3/1 Program - pt 2.

[quote]marlboroman wrote:
so anybody whose doing the BBB template for deads…

how do you prevent your shins from looking like a chunk of porterhouse ?

I mean damn , thats 65 reps , not counting work-up/warm-up sets . or am I missing sumthin ?[/quote]

Trap Bar Deadlift is your friend!

[quote]harmony72 wrote:
Is there anything inherently wrong with doing the 3 days a week and totally omitting bench day? I don’t care for benching much.[/quote]

I think using chins in place of bench as the main movement would be an interesting variation…

trap bar…I wish (I passed on a chance at a used trap-bar last winter…DOH )

form…I’ve thought about that . maybe use a bit more lower back than usual ; but only on the 5x10 sets at
50% .

sweats…sounds like that along with a minor form alter is the ticket

thanks all

A programming question. I feel pretty confident with my set up for squat and deadlift, but bench and military is something different.

I’ve always felt that narrow bench helps my bench, but I have weak shoulders and upper back. Today was bench 5-3-1, then I followed with narrow, bent rows and bent lateral raise.

Am I overdoing it?

why does doing db rows help the grip?

[quote]kickureface wrote:
why does doing db rows help the grip?[/quote]

Beyond the obvious, when most people do DB rows, they’ll put some body english on it, especially towards the end of a high-rep set. The dynamic aspect taxes your grip even harder than just gripping does. That’s something that’s really tough to get with deads or rack pulls, and would probably even be dangerous.

[quote]kickureface wrote:
why does doing db rows help the grip?[/quote]

“Kroc” Rows help the grip because your rowing to near failure (20-40 reps) with maximum weight

Exactly on the rows. Start with a weight you can get for 10 and get 20. Then move from there. When I started this a year ago I was using 80’s, I can knock out 150’s now. Every once in a while if I want to stretch myself and get a lot more reps, I’ll break out the straps. Again though, grip is not a limiting factor to my strength. I’ve rack pulled 600 with a hook grip for reps without much difficulty.

Getting strong is easy…just pick heavy shit up, put it down and repeat.

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:

  1. I’m 5’8, 180lbs. Most guys in the gym that are roughly my size lift around the same as me too or slightly less.

  2. Although, none of them do squats or deadlifts, so they probably can’t do shit on those.

  3. I’m struggling on my military press though… Maybe I should add in another shoulder movement?[/quote]

  4. I’m 5’7, 165lbs, and I outlift most bigger guys at my gym (time to move to a more hardcore one? :slight_smile:

  5. I’m the only one deadlifting and squatting below parallel in my gym, I see what you mean

  6. From the previous thread on 5/3/1, it seems to me that MP is the lift most people find harder to progress, even with 5/3/1. It works small muscles, maybe it’s the reason why progress are slow.

so kroc rowing is similar to widowmaker squats?

surely left and right arms have some imbalance for you guys, what do you do about that?

[quote]marlboroman wrote:

how do you prevent your shins from looking like a chunk of porterhouse ?

[/quote]

Put a piece of cardboard down the front of a pair of long socks, that should definitely do the trick. I have the same problem, even on very few sets, because of an old wound that got infected when i was younger and now has very thin skin on it.

[quote]kickureface wrote:
so kroc rowing is similar to widowmaker squats?

surely left and right arms have some imbalance for you guys, what do you do about that?[/quote]

Use my weak arm first, and then match it with my stronger arm.

How has everyone worked the all out sets?

After reading comments by the “unlikely powerlifter”, Jim and AJ Roberts they all say to pick your battles.

Are you guys going by feel, or organizing your all out sets?

I have gone well with my deadlift like this:
Week 1: All out
Week 2: x3
Week 3: All out
Week 4: deload

and that has worked well for the last two cycles.

Next cycle I am going to try:

Week 1: BP, DL = all out. SQ, MP x5
Week 2: SQ, MP = all out. BP, DL x 3
Week 3: BP, DL = all out. SQ, MP all out if I feel okay
Week 4 deload

Hey guys, just got my ebook and am starting my first wave. I’m pretty jacked about this program as my training had really started to gravitate toward this style naturally, but now I have a solid framework that should help with more consistent progress.

Quick question on the assistance work – anyone ever done different methods outlined in the book for each of the different main exercises. Here’s what I’m thinking: Military (Bodyweight assitance w/ dips, chins), Deads (BBB assistance), Bench (Periodization type assistance), Squats (Triumvirate). Basically, this just fits with the equipment I have available on certain days and is more or less just what I feel like doing. Anybody done something similar with the mixing and matching?

DCR, I’ve never gone “All out” to failure if thats what you mean. But i always took the last work set a rep or two b4 failure. I’m not sure what everyone else does but its been working for me so i’m not gonna change it. Though i’m only on my 3rd cycle right now and still using baby weights.

I put my b4 and afters on elite q/a
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=98359&tid=

[quote]jonnyblaze wrote:
Hey guys, just got my ebook and am starting my first wave. I’m pretty jacked about this program as my training had really started to gravitate toward this style naturally, but now I have a solid framework that should help with more consistent progress.

Quick question on the assistance work – anyone ever done different methods outlined in the book for each of the different main exercises. Here’s what I’m thinking: Military (Bodyweight assitance w/ dips, chins), Deads (BBB assistance), Bench (Periodization type assistance), Squats (Triumvirate). Basically, this just fits with the equipment I have available on certain days and is more or less just what I feel like doing. Anybody done something similar with the mixing and matching?[/quote]

I’d just stick to one of them but u could try it and if it works then stick with it till it doesnt work anymore.

[quote]kickureface wrote:
so kroc rowing is similar to widowmaker squats?

surely left and right arms have some imbalance for you guys, what do you do about that?[/quote]

As DCR said, start with your weak arm first and get what you can, then get the same with the other. To be honest, for me there is probably not that big of a difference between the two…maybe a rep or two.

Anyone on here have success with the BBB style on deadlift days, in terms of muscle growth?

I know we’re probably all mainly looking to get cock strong here, but I wouldn’t mind some extra slabs of beef on the back

[quote]dez6485 wrote:
Anyone on here have success with the BBB style on deadlift days, in terms of muscle growth?

I know we’re probably all mainly looking to get cock strong here, but I wouldn’t mind some extra slabs of beef on the back[/quote]

Your backside will grow like fuck dude. Also, you will probably walk like you’re 90 for the next 36 hours.

[quote]AverageGuy wrote:
DCR, I’ve never gone “All out” to failure if thats what you mean. But i always took the last work set a rep or two b4 failure. I’m not sure what everyone else does but its been working for me so i’m not gonna change it. Though i’m only on my 3rd cycle right now and still using baby weights.

I put my b4 and afters on elite q/a
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=98359&tid=[/quote]

I dont mean to failure.