You made the comment “you are in range or you are blasting”. I asked for clarification and picked an arbitrary number that was indeed extremely close to the actual range I posted (916).
I asked for further clarification and got a “ TRT is the T level you and you only can be at and you don’t need an AI to keep your E2 in check you don’t need to donate blood to keep your red blood cells from exceeding 50%.” which doesn’t have any ranges.
So first TRT was anything inside the suggested ranges provided by labs/doctors/what ever, but now it’s anything that doesn’t need estrogen to be controlled or routine blood donations.
This is what I’m question. You started with a hard “if it’s not in range you’re blasting. Then changed to as long as as hemocrit and estrogen are ok it doesn’t matter where you’re at.
You originally quoted @hankthetank89 showing him the range you were referencing for free and total T.
My original question was if you were one point over the range are you now blasting? Instead of answering that you went on a tangent about there not being a “1000” range. I let you know that was just an arbitrary number as I wasn’t 100% sure where the range you chose stopped. 1,000 was damn close but apparently not close enough.
@hrdlvn …You reply on almost every topic created like you’re a doctor when in fact it’s answers like you have given here that show you should be doing a lot more reading than replying.
Take as much as you want as long as E2 and HCT are in range ?? Please stop acting like you have knowledge !!
I have never said I was a doctor. The only advice I ever give is what my HRT clinic has done for me over the last 7 years. Any cycle or blast info I have I learned from here and doing some experimenting on my own.
I do believe, Take as much as you want as long as E2 and HCT are in range. Is still good advice, a doctor would probably not say it that way. Most will find that is somewhere in the range 100-200mg/w very few can take more without having to donate blood or take an AI.
Interestingly I can take as much as I want without developing polycythemia. Talked to my doc about it. Doctor said it’s highly individualistic, some will develop polycythemia on 5mg androgel/day, others can take 500mg/wk and their HCT will hardly budge.
On the other hand any dose above 125-150mg/wk and I get water retention, acne, subclinical BP increase etc. AI dramatically reduces, but doesn’t eliminate the water retention as RAAS dysregulation/effects on conversion pathways relating to adrenal homeostasis can also induce water retention.
Taking an AI on nandrolone doesn’t do shit for water retention when taking NPP/deca… or oxymetholone
@wanna_be I would like to apologize for coming across so argumentative last night. I had over celebrated the 4th of July and should not have been posting.
Hey man, it’s all good! I’m just glad you got the thoroughly enjoy the 4th! I drank an ultra and watched fireworks, lord knows I wanted to drink 10 more!
It will be too much for some people (probably myself included). When I started out on TRT, the Dr. had me on .125 mg twice a week (I might have been taking them with my M,W,F shots though, can’t remember), and I was in the teens for E2. TT was only like 600 ng/dL though at that time.
Do you have 0.25 mg tabs? You could try to split them into 0.125 mg, and dose EOD. Mine were caps, so I just went to 2X, then decided to try no AI, and I was fine.
I would start with .25 every 4 days as you said. The half life is longish, so it probably won’t make much of a difference.
BTW, just a side note, but splitting tabs I am fine with, but find quartering them a total PITA. I have to do it for one of my dogs meds. I suppose you would only need one every four days though.
Can’t you dissolve them into vodka or some other alcohol? Making them easier to dose accurately in small doses? I believe @iron_yuppie has told me about this.
