Many people have reported that they are feeling better on TRT dosages vs being on a blast. Especially libido wise, some say that 180mg a week makes them more horny than being on 500mg.
Can someone please explain to me - is that normal and WHY and HOW it works like that?
In all my life i never considered cruising because i tought that if i feel tired and weak on a blast, on a cruise i will feel even worse.
Thanks in advance 
Also, is there such a thing that your receptors need a break to clear(or whatever) ? Like is it true that after being on cruise for a while, your next blast would work better?
Libido is driven by e2 in the brain, and Iām guessing thereās a tight range that our brain likes to keep it high. Mine is great on 160-300mg test, but any higher and itās āmehā. And then I start dealing with DE.
Not taking any AI, right?
Well, mine was the highest when i was doing 1-2g of test a week with no AIā¦ My e2 was like 10 times the normal back then, and then i was introduced to AI.
Not back then on 300mg, didnāt know about them. Now on 160mg (well 240 for my cut) I use .25mg weekly.
Youāve been acclimated to high doses for a while, and maybe just need to run things higher?
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When your e2 was 10x higher than the normal, howād your libido respond after introducing an AI?
Personally Iām very confused about the relationship of e2 and libido. I know the science suggest e2 drives libido. But one time I had a raging libido. So I went and pulled blood to get an idea of what could be associated with that high libido. My e2 came back at 9. I felt no symptoms of low e2 at that time and my libido was the best it had ever been in my life.
E2 isnāt a bad thing, of course your E2 is going to be higher the higher your total test level is. You donāt want your E2 in the 30ās with a test level of say 4000.
And to say when i was doing between 1-2grams, thatās a very wide range ā¦ why not stay below a gram and add in masteron and proviron. youād feel better and may not need an AI, if so def not daily.
My goal is to actually start using less and less and drop to TRT cruise latest by early winter.
Hard to tell as it was a while back and i didnt really think about that. Its that i usually notice stuff AFTER, not while on.
Like on some steroids i never feel them until i come off and then i see, what they were doing and what am i missing now.
But if i have to guess, i believe my libido went down. But also at same time i started strenght training and i overtrain easy, so my libido might be shit because of that also.
Ive tried both. Mast at even 700mg a week didnt do shit for me.
Proviron does give me more libido but it also kills my dick - at least 4 hours after i take it, my dick goes limp in the middle of sex - 100% all the time, every day. I have tried different brands and different dosages - it gives me libido and a limp dick at same time.
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Thatās a really good goal man. If your genetics allow, you may hold most of your muscle. I seem to do that at least. I donāt blow up like crazy on higher test, but I hold what I do build. I think I could hold 200 lbs leaner than I am, but since you are taller, I would expect you to hold 230 lbs lean on a trt dose of 200-250. My libido is really high St that dose, but I get occasional performance issues. Had those before starting test. Gonna try low dose Cialis to see if that makes me consistent.
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If you are on a true TRT cruise then your Free T, E2, and prolactin are all in range and your body has no issues providing the proper amount of androgen receptors and no AI required.
The problem lies in extended blasts or cycles and your body gets used to the system being flooded with T so it stops making androgen receptorās to some degree. The body was never designed to run that much T so the body is trying to compensate and not allow your tissues to use the excess.
I am looking for the article I read this in but so far no luck finding it.
AR-
The androgen receptor (AR), also known as NR3C4 (nuclear receptor subfamily 3, group C, member 4), is a type of nuclear receptor that is activated by binding any of the androgenic hormones, including testosterone and dihydrotestosterone in the cytoplasm and then translocating into the nucleus.
You could try l-carnitine to upregulate the AR. I was under the impression that our receptors respond to the amount of triggers that are trying to attach. So if you have lots of androgens floating around you need more receptors for that to attach to. I imagine this works up to some genetic limit, then no more AAS would create anymore AR
I know the TRT Honeymoon phase is not well known here in the Pharma folder of this forum but I assure you itās a thing.
I have had this theory about it for many years now but no way to prove it.
I think it might apply in hanksā situation but the reverse.
In the true hypogonadal males their balls have not worked for years. The body is starving for any T molecule it can find. So it floods the body with ARās. Now in comes the T injections and in a matter of days the man is on top of the worldā¦Then the body goes OMG now we have too much T and it reduces the ARās and the honeymoon is over never to return again as long as the TRT patient takes his injections.
I also believe this happens in some men who do their first cycle and they were low on natural T so their bodies had additional AR out there looking for T.
In Hankās case he has been blasting for 13 years. His AR production system has gone into standby mode.
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I think there is a real honeymoon phase of trt, but I do think part of it is placebo.
Did you have a TRT honeymoon?
A bit, yeah. I do think with all the good reviews of trt had an influence. I think part is real, part is placebo.
i think i would start at 220mg a wk as that is the easiest to track and pin - half a CC of 250 every 4th day - comes to 218mg a wk.
Does it start making receptors again when you cruise?
Only if you get your Free T E2 and prolactin within range for an extended period of time.
You donāt get to pick your cruising dose your blood tests does.
Or it is not a true cruise/TRT dose is a mini blast and your AR will remain shut down.
You mean within ānormalā average people range?
The a question comes to mindā¦
If a cruise puts you in a NORMAL people range, can you hold any gains from any blast? @mnben87 ?
I was under the impression that a cruise should also be a bit over the average range for you to keep any gains you had OVER the average people gains, no?
Anyways, as i posted on my Summer Blast thread, i will be on 290mg test a week very soonā¦ if my e2 will be ok, i will drop EQ also and then only thing left will be stanazolol.