I think it will allow you to hold whatever your potential on trt is (plus a bit more if you’ve been blasting, because it appears muscle built past genetic limit changes you potential a bit). It’s more than natural limit. I guess, if I can be lean and past my natural limit, that is pretty good imo. I’m not trying to look like an ifbb pro or anything. Just more jacked than 99 percent or more of dudes. I think my genetics might be a bit above average, but nothing like the freaks. It’s good enough for me though. Every where I go I get attention from women. Most probably prefer the bigger underwear model look over ifbb pro anyways.
Neurological dysregulation coupled with excessive stress on the body (both mediated from AAS) can have you feeling like shit
TRT mitigates this, granted it’ll all depend on what you use during a blast, what you’re used too
Neurological homeostasis can take a while to re-attain after years of prolonged permablasing.
As to libido, differs for everyone and depends on what you use.
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This isn’t trt for most, particularly the latter dose. This is “sports” trt.
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True. Do you think it is particularly dangerous? I’m barely above range on 200 mg/wk.
For some people… Yes
For others… No
No way to answer that question, one needs a genetic baseline/analysis and extensive analysis of familial history coupled with bloods and anecdotal observations as to how they react to testosterone.
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Yes I do. Let’s see your blood test. That is the real test. You are in range during TRT or you are mini blasting. IMO when mini blasting all the organs we are damaging when blasting/cycling are still being damaged. Nothing really gets a break to heal. Thank
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This is true, though blood tests can’t test for cardiac enlargement (well… BNP can… Sort of), autonomic dysfunction etc
My bloods were in range (all of them aside from test/estrogen ) on 200-250mg test/wk, though from the way I feel on that dose I can state it wouldn’t be healthy long term. Autonomic dysfunction becomes highly apparent on higher dosages of T
My lipids only budge (and they absolutely crash) when synthetic compounds are involved. Pulse pressure also widens on higher dose T, BP sub-clinically increases etc.
Which ones have to be in range in order for a person to think he has found a dose he can live with forever?
When I was with a clinic, they wanted me at 180 mg/wk after blood work at 150 mg/wk. I have posted my labs here for my cruise at 200 mg /wk. They didn’t look too bad imo. Yes my TT was above range, but FT was only like 1-2 points above the top.
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The goal of TRT is to get a guy with hypogonadism back in range for his age.
If you are just a little above the range heck that could be lab error.
IMO when cruising you have returned all your bloods back to in range to allow all the organs you damage when blasting to heal and that is not a short process.
What you are risking is stuff like coronary atherosclerosis from long term trashed lipids. T does not only grow muscles, your heart and lungs grow as well and that is not good, It can *enlarged the left ventricle, thicken the heart muscle that causes it to work harder, enlarged liver and kidneys, nephrosclerosis (a hardened liver). Other organ damage papillary thyroid carcinoma The list goes on and on and its a crap shoot which one kills you.
Lets face it the only good thing Blasting/cycling does is build big muscles and nothing else. It is cooking/aging the rest of our body from the inside out.
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I suggest you stop listening to people saying high E2 means higher libido, it does NOT for plenty people. Me personally (and MANY MANY OTHERS) high e2 = DEAD libido, gone. I need my estrogen to be low or cock wont function.
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I am the same. 20-24 is my E2 sweet spot for libido and a harder erection.
Everyone is different everyone needs to find their sweet spot.
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I will try the higher e2 thing as i think the lower mine gets, the weaker libido i have… i also feel flat as shit and cant get any pumps…
Where is this cut off? If the range stops at 1000 total and you’re 1001, you’re blasting, but 999 and you’re safe and cruising?
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“Where is the cut off?” @wanna_be I am sorry I don’t follow your question. There is no 1000 limit on any blood measurement.
TRT is the T level you and you only can be at and you don’t need an AI to keep your E2 in check you don’t need to donate blood to keep your red blood cells from exceeding 50%.
Everyone will be different. There is no one ring to rule them all. Your SHGB will play a huge role in this.
Only thru experiments (80mg/wk to 150mg/wk in 20mg steps) waiting for the full 40days( if you use T cyp and 22 days for TE) to reach steady state and blood testing can you find your real TRT sweet spot. Where your T level is not damaging your internal organs. Prematurely aging you from the inside out.
What range?
I don’t need an AI nor have hemocrit issues so far up to 750mg/week, so there has to be more to this.
So for this (sample) lab report from labcorp, if it was 920 total T, in your eyes is this a blast and no longer TRT?
@wanna_be so you are saying with 750mg/wk your TT is only 355? That is fucked up and something is wrong. Where are you buying your T from? a real TRT doc or UGL?
IMO if you don’t need an AI to keep your E2 in check and you don’t need to donate blood to keep your HCT in check you can run your TT/FT as high as possible with no organ damage or negative sides like water retension or mood swings.
No that isn’t my labs, that was a sample I used just to show the reference range and add a graphic to my question.
So high E and elevated HCT is what would cause the damage and proposed organ growth?
I am not sure it is just high E2 and high red cell count that cause organ damage. I believe there is way more to it. Like bad lipids and blood pressure issues. I hope other way smarter than me will help in this discussion.
@wanna_be There are only two TT blood tests the cheap 1500max or unlimited. Picking 1000 out of the blue made no sense. Sorry brother but that was a dumb call.